Community MetaSteam | February 2021 - We Don't Do Regional Pricing in This House

[Wok]

This average indie game will be removed from Steam this month:

Thanks New Price :: SugarMill General Discussions

Hello I have been receiving a lot of attention lately with SugarMill, thanks. I will not be able to do any fixes in SM for a long time. I'm completely focused on SugarWinds at the moment. I will put the game at a really low price and please enjoy it. Thanks for the years of outstanding support...

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[Li Kao]

Ps2 emulation peeps
Please adivse me on the ways of CSO

CSO ?

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For the people who forgot there is a forum outside the Steam Thread :

Community - MetaCouncil Co-op Corner

Just posting to get access to the list

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We may play together February 27 at 12pm EST.
Pretty certain that the event will be even better with YOU

Spoiler

except if your are lashman, because nobody reads his posts, we don’t know who he is and I needed a joke at the end of my post

 

[Wok]

Not sure what this is about, but weird visuals:

Steam Community :: 第五件遗留物

第五件遗留物 - "As long as you can collect all the belongings, you can go back to the world. "This is an AVG adventure game. In the game, the player will play as "Thomson", looking for his way home in a world full of monsters. Every choice of the player may affect his fate. There are all kinds of...

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In contrast to more classical anime waifu games:


Unrelated:

Endless Voyage / 无尽航线 - Endless Voyage update announcement- 30th Jan 2021 - Steam News

Hello, I am NPC, the producer. I mentioned our team encountered some problems that hindered our update process. Long story short: Our team was originally made up of three members, two programmers and me as a planner. One programmer quit due to a lot of economic pressure, as the sale fell short...

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[Kvik]

CSO ?

It's a compression scheme for .ISOs using a combination of compression algorithms. I haven't used it myself, but you'll need a good CPU from what I've heard.

 

[Mivey]

I'm not a fan of Rami's takes on Steam lately, but he's spot on in this subject.


Disgusting.

It's crazy that games with some boobs in them get rejected from Steam, but a game that whitewashes a documented war crime that killed thousands of innocent civilians is probably fine.

Any of you remember playing Spec Ops: The Line, that infamous scene with the white phosphorous? That actually, literally happened in Fallujah. And in Spec Ops, it's at least presented as something where your hero arguably didn't know that there were civilians there. The US Army sure as fuck knew, and they didn't give a toss. This game will not portray that. It literally presents a sanitised version of the Iraq War.

 

[Swenhir]

Any of you remember playing Spec Ops: The Line, that infamous scene with the white phosphorous? That actually, literally happened in Fallujah. And in Spec Ops, it's at least presented as something where your hero arguably didn't know that there were civilians there. The US Army sure as fuck knew, and they didn't give a toss. This game will not portray that. It literally presents a sanitised version of the Iraq War.

Pretty much, that was my thought on it. Spec Ops didn't do glorification of war and was a thoroughly-thoughtful game when it comes to violence, war crimes and american imperialism. That sort of portrayal of Fallujah, I'd be a-okay with, Spec Ops was the Perfect Blue of modern shooters and actually told a compelling story. Such a game would be actually nuanced. But instead they are going for CoD and that's a big nope.

 

[Jav]

Anybody remembers the America's Army games?

 

[Alextended]

Anybody remembers the America's Army games?

2 was a pretty great tactical milsim type thingie with solid mechanics, maps and polish. I wasn't interested in later releases from what I had seen.

 

[Jav]

Ok but hear me up, America's Army had something that was kinda fucked up and my younger self didn't want to think too much about...

The game had multilplayer where both sides were the US army and you saw the other team as some terrorist organization.

When the game autobalanced the teams, you were on the other team but still saw yourself as a soldier, but now the others where the faceless terrorist.

That was some unintentional Spec Ops: The Line-esque shit right there

 

[Arsene]

Ok but hear me up, America's Army had something that was kinda fucked up and my younger self didn't want to think too much about...

The game had multilplayer where both sides were the US army and you saw the other team as some terrorist organization.

When the game autobalanced the teams, you were on the other team but still saw yourself as a soldier, but now the others where the faceless terrorist.

That was some unintentional Spec Ops: The Line-esque shit right there

 

[Li Kao]

EA back then : sales de-valuate games.
EA 2021 : constant sales on Steam.
Morons.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Any of you remember playing Spec Ops: The Line, that infamous scene with the white phosphorous? That actually, literally happened in Fallujah. And in Spec Ops, it's at least presented as something where your hero arguably didn't know that there were civilians there. The US Army sure as fuck knew, and they didn't give a toss. This game will not portray that. It literally presents a sanitised version of the Iraq War.

IIRC It wasn't even that Walker didn't know, it was that he was unsure and used white phosphorous anyways and then tries to feel bad about it, but his squad mates are like "nuh fuck you, you don't get to feel bad you mass murderer we fucking warned you".

God I should replay Spec Ops to cleanse my brain off this disgusting Fallujah game.

 

[Tizoc]

PSOne games are, IMO still able to provide a feeling

IIRC It wasn't even that Walker didn't know, it was that he was unsure and used white phosphorous anyways and then tries to feel bad about it, but his squad mates are like "nuh fuck you, you don't get to feel bad you mass murderer we fucking warned you".

God I should replay Spec Ops to cleanse my brain off this disgusting Fallujah game.

Yeah I am more tempted to replay Spec Ops now. Honestly it's cover shooter mechanics are fine and work well, so complaints about its gameplay/shooting are bizarre to me as they...just work as intended.
Realy talk: I originally didn't fully appreciate the themes of it, but nowadays, they are much more clearer to me.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Yeah I am more tempted to replay Spec Ops now. Honestly it's cover shooter mechanics are fine and work well, so complaints about its gameplay/shooting are bizarre to me as they...just work as intended.
Realy talk: I originally didn't fully appreciate the themes of it, but nowadays, they are much more clearer to me.

There's nothing particularly wrong with the gameplay per se, it's just a bog standard cover shooter that has nothing new outside of the sand glass gimmick which is used like twice.

 

[gabbo]

It's a compression scheme for .ISOs using a combination of compression algorithms. I haven't used it myself, but you'll need a good CPU from what I've heard.

Is there an app for it or are you doing this command line?

 

[Arc]

Coming Soon to Xbox Game Pass: Dirt 5, Killer Queen Black, Wreckfest, and More - Xbox Wire

The team here at Xbox game pass is proud to present… video games! We’ve got new Perks, more games, and even more games you can touch. Coming soon to a download or streaming queue near you! So pick your quests, (turn in the one’s you’ve already done), and let’s get to the games. Coming Soon […]

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Code Vein is hitting Game Pass PC for all your weeb Souls needs.

 

[texhnolyze]

EA back then : sales de-valuate games.
EA 2021 : constant sales on Steam.
Morons.

EGS said exactly the same thing at launch, and it didn't take long until they opened their first major sale.

 

[manchego obfuscator]

Coming Soon to Xbox Game Pass: Dirt 5, Killer Queen Black, Wreckfest, and More - Xbox Wire

The team here at Xbox game pass is proud to present… video games! We’ve got new Perks, more games, and even more games you can touch. Coming soon to a download or streaming queue near you! So pick your quests, (turn in the one’s you’ve already done), and let’s get to the games. Coming Soon […]

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Code Vein is hitting Game Pass PC for all your weeb Souls needs.

boring couple weeks, oh well

 

[Wildebeet]

EGS said exactly the same thing at launch, and it didn't take long until they opened their first major sale.

It's always a weird thing for people to say that a lower price devalues the product. We don't know the value of something until the seller and the buyer meet and figure out the price. The seller doesn't get to decide that by itself, because why shouldn't the game be $200? All a sale does is meet different people's price points where they'd value having the game instead of the money. There is no single fixed proper price, because there are different buyers with different values. EGS is just the latest billion dollar company to take econ 101.

 

[Stone Ocean]

It's always a weird thing for people to say that a lower price devalues the product. We don't know the value of something until the seller and the buyer meet and figure out the price. The seller doesn't get to decide that by itself, because why shouldn't the game be $200? All a sale does is meet different people's price points where they'd value having the game instead of the money. There is no single fixed proper price, because there are different buyers with different values. EGS is just the latest billion dollar company to take econ 101.

Sales can devalue games when they become a race to the bottom. Like if you see a game heavily discounted a month after release odds are you won't be as eager to buy a game by the same company for full price later.

With that said it's a wee bit different on PC since we don't have to worry about losing every game we have in 4 years because hardware developers suddenly decided they don't like retro anymore so games can be evergreen when properly priced over time.

 

[xinek]

It's always a weird thing for people to say that a lower price devalues the product. We don't know the value of something until the seller and the buyer meet and figure out the price. The seller doesn't get to decide that by itself, because why shouldn't the game be $200? All a sale does is meet different people's price points where they'd value having the game instead of the money. There is no single fixed proper price, because there are different buyers with different values. EGS is just the latest billion dollar company to take econ 101.

I've been thinking about this since Epic's sales have been messing up price history sites. Games are weird, because there are several games on my wishlist that i'd definitely pay full price for. They're on sale right now, but I know they'll go cheaper in the future, so I'm waiting. Are the games devalued? The other reason I'm not buying right now is because of my backlog. Aside from games, I can't think of much else that wildly varies in price so much where demand has almost no influence. Anyway, I don't have a point, I just think it's interesting.

 

[Line]

PSOne games are, IMO still able to provide a feeling

Yeah I am more tempted to replay Spec Ops now. Honestly it's cover shooter mechanics are fine and work well, so complaints about its gameplay/shooting are bizarre to me as they...just work as intended.
Realy talk: I originally didn't fully appreciate the themes of it, but nowadays, they are much more clearer to me.

PS1 games always have some charm to them, especially animations that needed to be exaggerated to... be visible amid the wobbly textures and aliasing.
Though I do regret so many textures being so muddy in many games (like it is for N64), low rez chunky pixels aged a lot better... but that was more common on the PC side at the time.

 

[Snakethesniper]

Anyone has any experience with Planet Zoo? I remember that people said it was more "tycoon" than planet coaster

 

[Tizoc]

Build an Ass Creed Ubi bundle over at fanatical

Fanatical

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[Wildebeet]

Sales can devalue games when they become a race to the bottom. Like if you see a game heavily discounted a month after release odds are you won't be as eager to buy a game by the same company for full price later.

Eh, I don't think I see it that way. It's more like we're seeing the value of time. So if you buy a game day one, it's because you value having it now. I mean, people even preorder because they value now so much (perhaps too much?) So when I think "well that'll be in a bundle in 6 months" I don't value now much at all, and I can wait (backlog and all). A seller brings down the price until they hit my now point, and since I don't want to spend more than I have to, I'm more inclined to agree. The lower price is more competitive, because all stuff competes with all other stuff. I've got a lot pulling dollars away from me, not just games. But $5 EA games, that's compelling and fits into my budget without even having to think about it.

So I think it's not a race to the bottom, but that we're seeing how valuable the game actually is over a time. Often, that is to say, sorry it's not very valuable in this super saturated market and world of backlogs.

I've been thinking about this since Epic's sales have been messing up price history sites. Games are weird, because there are several games on my wishlist that i'd definitely pay full price for. They're on sale right now, but I know they'll go cheaper in the future, so I'm waiting. Are the games devalued? The other reason I'm not buying right now is because of my backlog. Aside from games, I can't think of much else that wildly varies in price so much where demand has almost no influence. Anyway, I don't have a point, I just think it's interesting.

I think why we'd choose one thing instead of another is pretty random. I might wake up the next morning and just buy something because YOLO, whereas the day before I was like "nah, got to be responsible" or something. I guess it probably balances out somehow. But there are lots of games that are already "devalued" in my eyes, like Factorio at never-on-sale $30. That's a steal.

 

[Wok]

PSOne games are, IMO still able to provide a feeling

Which game is it?

 

[fantomena]

Halfway through february and nothing on Bloodborne.

 

[Line]

Which game is it?

 

[Stone Ocean]

Eh, I don't think I see it that way. It's more like we're seeing the value of time. So if you buy a game day one, it's because you value having it now. I mean, people even preorder because they value now so much (perhaps too much?) So when I think "well that'll be in a bundle in 6 months" I don't value now much at all, and I can wait (backlog and all). A seller brings down the price until they hit my now point, and since I don't want to spend more than I have to, I'm more inclined to agree. The lower price is more competitive, because all stuff competes with all other stuff. I've got a lot pulling dollars away from me, not just games. But $5 EA games, that's compelling and fits into my budget without even having to think about it.

So I think it's not a race to the bottom, but that we're seeing how valuable the game actually is over a time. Often, that is to say, sorry it's not very valuable in this super saturated market and world of backlogs.

It's not a race to the bottom by default, but it can be. Costumers are prone to being trained and nothing shows that better than what the mobile market has become.

Even selling a game there for 5 bucks can be a nightmare because people can get "free" everywhere else and this affects what types of games get made in the first place.

 

[Tizoc]

 

[xinek]

I think why we'd choose one thing instead of another is pretty random. I might wake up the next morning and just buy something because YOLO, whereas the day before I was like "nah, got to be responsible" or something. I guess it probably balances out somehow. But there are lots of games that are already "devalued" in my eyes, like Factorio at never-on-sale $30. That's a steal.

Most definitely -- I bought Factorio and felt great about the $30. Never felt ripped off, and I never had to worry about being annoyed that it would drop in price. So psychologically, it was a great experience lol. Axiom Verge was sort of the same -- the developer said straight up when it released that it wouldn't be going on sale anywhere for x period of time. So I bought it and played it, and it was fine when it eventually went on sale much later. There's definitely more to purchasing behavior than straight cheap price. And yeah, who can ever explain those YOLO purchases??

 

[Tizoc]

Which game is it?

Yeah it's 40 Winks. It's a decent adventure game from what I played so far. World 2 is a dread water world but the swimming...works. Your main goal in each world's 3 levels is to find the main 6-7 collectables along with 40 gears which you need to open up paths and such.

EDIT: Just to add, first world is called 'Nightmare World' and this is the boss theme for that world

I am serious.

 

[Shahem]

Halfway through february and nothing on Bloodborne.

Don't worry. A random person on 4chan believes the port (and PS5 remaster probably) will be announced "soon".

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[Wildebeet]

It's not a race to the bottom by default, but it can be. Costumers are prone to being trained and nothing shows that better than what the mobile market has become.

Even selling a game there for 5 bucks can be a nightmare because people can get "free" everywhere else and this affects what types of games get made in the first place.

Dunno. Mobile is super mass market though, maybe that's the nature of the platform? Mobile seems all about the free to play with in game purchases and the whole gacha thing. And even at that low price on mobile, aren't some of those companies the biggest unknown developers? I don't play on mobile so IDK. I don't think we see that so much on PC/consoles. People buy big games early all the time and don't mind the $60.

 

[Nabs]

 

[fantomena]

Hoping for a Steam sale soon. I uninstalled the game pass version as it just crashes to desktop for me.

 

[Wok]

Fanatical

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[Tomasety]

Fanatical

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I was going to post it but wasn't sure how to insert an image with 20 games to choose from without messing up with the forum width.

Anyway, I think there are some very decent and interesting games to choose from and it starts with 1 game at 1€ price point.
I definitely like this kind of bundle.

 

[Mor]

So, tomorrow there's a Nintendo Direct (general it seems) and I was wondering, what do you expect PC wise? I'm talking about potential third party announcements, of course.

I would love to see both SMT3HD (potentially coming to PC by code references) and Ninja Gaiden Collection (already leaked a few times via trademarks and so)

 

[ZKenir]

I would love to see both SMT3HD (potentially coming to PC by code references)

I'm sure stadia is hard at work to ensure it's ported to PC

 

[Arsene]

So, tomorrow there's a Nintendo Direct (general it seems) and I was wondering, what do you expect PC wise? I'm talking about potential third party announcements, of course.

I would love to see both SMT3HD (potentially coming to PC by code references) and Ninja Gaiden Collection (already leaked a few times via trademarks and so)

Monster Hunter Stories 2 and Great Ace Attorney Collection are both coming to PC according to leaks so I'm expecting those to be shown at the direct in some form.

 

[Mor]

I'm sure stadia is hard at work to ensure it's ported to PC

Monster Hunter Stories 2 and Great Ace Attorney Collection are both coming to PC according to leaks so I'm expecting those to be shown at the direct in some form.

But those are already known, don't you have any in mind that hasn't been confirmed at all?

 

[Arsene]

But those are already known, don't you have any in mind that hasn't been confirmed at all?

Persona 5 Royal and Bloodborne for Switch and PC

 

[Stone Ocean]

So, tomorrow there's a Nintendo Direct (general it seems) and I was wondering, what do you expect PC wise? I'm talking about potential third party announcements, of course.

I would love to see both SMT3HD (potentially coming to PC by code references) and Ninja Gaiden Collection (already leaked a few times via trademarks and so)

The Great Ace Attorney 1+2 announcement is pretty guaranteed I think

 

[TioChuck]

Someone made a version of Xenia that plays Goldeneye Remaster, and other games, with KB&M, works great.

Releases · emoose/xenia

Non-maintained mousehook/stfs & other hacks branch, check https://github.com/marinesciencedude/xenia-canary-mousehook for more up-to-date version. - emoose/xenia

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[Wildebeet]

So, tomorrow there's a Nintendo Direct (general it seems) and I was wondering, what do you expect PC wise? I'm talking about potential third party announcements, of course.

Obviously this is all about Silksong. Obviously. This is it!

 

[LEANIJA]

Anyone has any experience with Planet Zoo? I remember that people said it was more "tycoon" than planet coaster

I believe these videos explain everything you need to know:

This stuff just always looks so amazing, and Im not even into flight sims.
Also, I find it funny that every sight displayed either "England", "Scotland", "Wales" or "Ireland", just Belfast was just "United Kingdom"... is saying "Northern Ireland" considered controversial now for some reason?

 

[PC-tan]

Anyone has any experience with Planet Zoo? I remember that people said it was more "tycoon" than planet coaster

Yes since it's more focused on you caring for the animals then it is designing the place.

 

[kio]

This game's writers had way too much fun.

 

[fantomena]

I expect Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.