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I don’t think anyone’s gonna complain about Epic making the client better.
Only they should’ve done it first.
Only they should’ve done it first.
Fortnite "still remains the biggest game in the world on many fronts", Epic says, but its playtime dropped noticeably in 2025
Epic Games Store boss Steve Allison sheds light on a mixed year of new records and offsetting drops, as third-party grows and Fortnite shrinks.
www.eurogamer.net
well he's technically correct as of right nowFortnite "still remains the biggest game in the world on many fronts", Epic says, but its playtime dropped noticeably in 2025
Epic Games Store boss Steve Allison sheds light on a mixed year of new records and offsetting drops, as third-party grows and Fortnite shrinks.
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It's funny how he claims EGS is profitable, while ignoring the costs of the cashbacks and free games.
Anyway, usually I'd applaud any company improving their PC efforts. But I have no doubt that Epic will resume money hatting 3rd party games as soon as EGS gets a decent marketshare. Let's hope they never achieve this.
Anyway, usually I'd applaud any company improving their PC efforts. But I have no doubt that Epic will resume money hatting 3rd party games as soon as EGS gets a decent marketshare. Let's hope they never achieve this.
They need to do a lot more to compensate all the years of bullshit that I had to hear from their mouth since EGS has been a thing on PC
Actually what I could agree with at this point is only an announcement of the closure of this turd that they call store
Allison has been GM of the EGS since the inception of it, so he's just another guy that actually was part of all of the shit they said and did in the last 5 years or so.
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Not really. Hoyo have their own launcher for their games. I dare say most people play their games through that instead of the EGS so they can't really be called exclusive.well he's technically correct as of right now
Epic Games Store to test forums for 'top games,' walking back previous plans, and a technical overhaul is coming: 'We're ripping out the guts'
Epic also plans to introduce player profiles, avatars, and private messaging.
Sounds like the EGS social features will be a sanitized version of Steam's. Fortnite has had forums for awhile and they're nothing special.
As an aside, I really never got the complaints the Steam forums were some Nazi infested hellhole. Sure you had clown farmings saying dumb things about games being woke, but Stormfront it ain't.
I think in that context, "exclusive" just means "not on Steam".
I think when people say Steam's forums are a nazi-ridden hellhole, what they're actually saying is when that shit appears Valve won't touch it, for better or worse.
I'm not actually sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, Steam is private property and Valve has a right to say what is and isn't allowed on their property, so maybe they should clamp down on it? On the other, I don't like private companies dictating what speech is or isn't allowed. We've seen private companies come after leftist speech for decades, through various means, so I have a natural aversion to companies dictating the terms of conversation in any way.
At the same time, nazis are rats and they should be treated as such. I think as a society we should be far more intolerant of them in the same way we're intolerant of murder and paedophilia (both things the far right is neck deep in, by the by). I just don't think private companies should be judge, jury and executioner on that.
I'm not actually sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, Steam is private property and Valve has a right to say what is and isn't allowed on their property, so maybe they should clamp down on it? On the other, I don't like private companies dictating what speech is or isn't allowed. We've seen private companies come after leftist speech for decades, through various means, so I have a natural aversion to companies dictating the terms of conversation in any way.
At the same time, nazis are rats and they should be treated as such. I think as a society we should be far more intolerant of them in the same way we're intolerant of murder and paedophilia (both things the far right is neck deep in, by the by). I just don't think private companies should be judge, jury and executioner on that.
On steam, each forum part of each game is moderated by the people behind the game if Im not mistaken? In that case I think valve should for the most part of hands off. That said forums are a nazi shithole either way that needs a solution. The bigger problem on steam is also so much over nazi, like groups, profiles and so on, which I do think valve does something about when it has been reported on enough
Stealing this from Lashman:
kotaku.com
So Fortnite PC has ~17.4 million MAU. For comparison, Counter-Strike 2 had 31.5 million last month.
It's Time To Stop Treating The Epic Game Store Like A Joke
The Fortnite launcher isn't going anywhere even if Steam has twice as many players
kotaku.com
So Fortnite PC has ~17.4 million MAU. For comparison, Counter-Strike 2 had 31.5 million last month.
Stealing this from Lashman:
It's Time To Stop Treating The Epic Game Store Like A Joke
The Fortnite launcher isn't going anywhere even if Steam has twice as many players
I mean, we are going 8 years into this. If the store is still having to justify itself after 8 flipping years, then what are we even doing here?
I wonder where EGS would be now, if they launched with the following (however impractical/implausible, let's assume Epic's billions and engineering talent would be capable of it):
Basially, if they didn't poison the well from the outset, pissing off core PC audience, and instead brought high quality competition. What would their market share spend be today?
But, I still don't want Valve to censor. Developers can moderate their subforums already and that should be enough. Everyone can set (and enforce) their own rules.
- no paid third party exclusives
- come out of the gate with fully featured client that matches (or exceeds) Steam on features AND offers nicer design/visual experience
- EGS version of GOG-connect letting people redeem their steam libraries on EGS for free
- lower prices on Epic through cashbacks or whatnot
- free games
Basially, if they didn't poison the well from the outset, pissing off core PC audience, and instead brought high quality competition. What would their market share spend be today?
Agreed, and same goes for commies. Nazis raped my country for 6 years, commies raped it for 40 years.
But, I still don't want Valve to censor. Developers can moderate their subforums already and that should be enough. Everyone can set (and enforce) their own rules.
I re-read that Kotaku interview and this:
Is implying Steam's MAU has only grown 8 million in 4 years and Valve is running a massive botnet. Is he full of shit? (Yes, yes he is).
Also 2019 was a bad year for Valve as big pubs were dropping Steam, their first party games were stagnating and Fortnite was the hot new thing in town and Epic could have easily converted millions of zoomers into loyal EGS customers with a plethora of collabs. Epic sat on their asses for years and let Valve run away with a massive lead.
Is implying Steam's MAU has only grown 8 million in 4 years and Valve is running a massive botnet. Is he full of shit? (Yes, yes he is).
If Epic had focused on user features and Fortnite collabs from day 1 instead of exclusives and Tim Sweeney crying on Twitter, they would have that 30-40% market share they want. I have no idea why they waited over 7 years to go all in to Fortnite bonuses especially as the game was at its peak in 2019-2020 and is declining today (primarily as battle royales are just plain old and their metaverse has been a dud).
Also 2019 was a bad year for Valve as big pubs were dropping Steam, their first party games were stagnating and Fortnite was the hot new thing in town and Epic could have easily converted millions of zoomers into loyal EGS customers with a plethora of collabs. Epic sat on their asses for years and let Valve run away with a massive lead.
Story time; Just over a decade ago telecom was a vibrant industry in my country. Every state had multiple telecom companies vying to be your mobile phone service provider. They actually used to compete with each other and that was very beneficial for consumers. Around that time, one the of the richest men in the world decided that he wanted a piece of this pie. His company spent tons of money setting up infrastructure, towers and laying optical fibres across the nation. Then they launched their network with an offer... anybody who switches to this new network gets free mobile phone services and data for 3 years. People wouldn't have to pay a phone bill for 3 whole years! Hundreds of millions of people shifted over. The smaller companies couldn't do anything to counter this. How do you compete with an ultra rich company that is willing to run at a loss for years on end? You just can't. And so, one by one, they all got acquired, merged or folded until we reached the current scenario where there are only 3 major telecom companies left in the market. One of those 3 (Vodafone) is in a deep financial hole that they will never get out of. And now those 3 companies operate as a cartel. They all have the exact same pricing and plans. If one company announces a prike hike in the morning, the other two companies will have matched it by the end of the day. Now telecom prices are much higher than they used to be and normal people have no choices left.
The telecom regulatory authority should have stepped in and blocked this kind of predatory pricing when that network first launched. But of course, that organization is run by the government which has politicians who are bought and paid for.
The point here is that a company that is willing to burn money and run at a loss for years is an extremely dangerous thing.
The fact that Valve has survived it for this long doesn't mean the problem is irrelevant. Epic didn't spend billions to have a 6% marketshare. They are continuing to run at a loss because, while their strategy and messaging has changed, their goal has not. They absolutely want to crush Steam and they are still trying to find out how they can do it. My gut feeling is that Valve got really lucky by not responding or retaliating to the actions Epic took at the start of this all. I genuinely think that if Valve had done anything to counter Epic's moves, Tim would have had a lawsuit ready and waiting to go accusing them of abusing a monopoly position.
Someone wondered why all this EGS coverage is starting up now. I can't help but wonder if it's linked to that UK lawsuit that has just started against Valve. I also wonder who is actually funding that lawsuit and wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being Tim. And unless you want to believe all game journalists independently contacted Epic to get these interviews at same time, it's pretty obvious that Epic has reached out to get this coverage. This feels like yet another co-ordinated attack designed to influence people who don't follow this stuff closely and the stupids who do but believe that "all competition is good no matter what!".
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I don't think Epic is behind Steam one, just using it to their advtantage.
Look at this guy bringing in facts to this discussion.
My theory is spicier than yours and so I reject your reality and substitute it with my own.
The UK lawsuit is being handled by Milberg which is a firm that has offices in the US and UK. They have a list of outstanding cases on their UK website and are suing Sony for nearly the same thing as Valve.
As for the Wolfire lawsuit, they're being represented by Constantine Cannon while Epic used Cravath, Swaine & Moore for the Apple and Google trials. You can question how Wolfire has been able to find funding for 5 years, but that's getting a bit into conspiracy territory.
I think it's safe to say Tim isn't funding any of these lawsuits, but he wouldn't be unhappy if Valve lost. Also as an aside, Tim has mentioned Sony having price parity clauses as well when speaking under oath, but hasn't dared to criticize them for it on Twitter.
As for the Wolfire lawsuit, they're being represented by Constantine Cannon while Epic used Cravath, Swaine & Moore for the Apple and Google trials. You can question how Wolfire has been able to find funding for 5 years, but that's getting a bit into conspiracy territory.
I think it's safe to say Tim isn't funding any of these lawsuits, but he wouldn't be unhappy if Valve lost. Also as an aside, Tim has mentioned Sony having price parity clauses as well when speaking under oath, but hasn't dared to criticize them for it on Twitter.
Did they hire some windows programmers for this Fortnite update or something?
Epic officially debunking the claim Jeffery Epstein is still alive and playing Fortnite.
Imagine the story though. World’s most notorious billionaire paedophile hiding on Fortnite 7 years after he “died”.
Not getting my hopes up, but man that would be funny.
That game must be doing numbers prerelease wise
Well, not good numbers, but still numbers
Well, not good numbers, but still numbers
I'm still curious what data Epic showed this poor guy to prove that PC gamers buy games no matter the storefront. All data we got from Epic and the case files proves the opposite.
If buying your game out of exclusivity is possible, Remedy should strongly consider doing it for Alan Wake 2.
That might be more difficult, as Epic is the publisher and funded its development. So I imagine a lot more money is involved.
releasing on everything but PC
The CI Games CEO stickied this post on Twitter.
One thing to note is that the Lords 2 EGS store page lists CI Games as the publisher and not Epic. I might be grasping at straws, but it might not be as locked down as other games.
Or maybe he's just trolling.
Epic is not cool.
One thing to note is that the Lords 2 EGS store page lists CI Games as the publisher and not Epic. I might be grasping at straws, but it might not be as locked down as other games.
Or maybe he's just trolling.
If Epic was cool they would sell Alan Wake 2 publishing rights back to Remedy for a song and dance.
Epic is not cool.
Alan Wake II is the best game on the EGS and they spent a lot of money to have it. They will want to not only break even on it, but at the very least make enough money for it to have been worth removing the money from the bank in the first place.
Until that happens, the cost of Remedy getting Alan Wake II back will be that plus the usual buy-out fees, so I suspect it isn't happening unless Epic feels like they'd get more money letting Remedy buy them out than they would through regular sales.
Until that happens, the cost of Remedy getting Alan Wake II back will be that plus the usual buy-out fees, so I suspect it isn't happening unless Epic feels like they'd get more money letting Remedy buy them out than they would through regular sales.
Epic still hasn't updated their monthly active user count for the EU in accordance with the DMA.
Usually Valve is the late one.
Usually Valve is the late one.
Alan Wake 2 became profitable a year ago. Remedy and Epic have been doing B2B deals lately with Playstation Plus and Amazon Luna and I'm sure there's a Game Pass deal waiting in the wings. Maybe after all those are exhausted then Tim will get that stick out of his ass.
Tim liked this (because they can't use this patent to sue Epic?)
I just read the original 2016 patent, once you get the needs
1) serve content to users
2) let users upload content
3) make sure the user is always the same by using the unique identifier in the BIOS, something that all consumer computers have. (PCs, smartphones, etc)
His patent is the most trivial way to implement a procedure that serves all 3 needs, and should therefore not be valid at all.
I really hate patent trolls, inventors my ass
1) serve content to users
2) let users upload content
3) make sure the user is always the same by using the unique identifier in the BIOS, something that all consumer computers have. (PCs, smartphones, etc)
His patent is the most trivial way to implement a procedure that serves all 3 needs, and should therefore not be valid at all.
I really hate patent trolls, inventors my ass
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My new interview with Dave Oshry is relevant to this thread about the state of EGS. Long interview, cmd/ctrl+f for epic and enjoy.
I like the spin from Epic that they're doing a favor to the industry as the free games help give attention to smaller titles. I've seen both Tim Sweeney and Steve Allison post something to that degree.
I actually agree with the premise, but their framing is so smug that they come off as insufferable because of it.
