Rumour Horizon: Zero Dawn is coming to PC | earlier rumour confirmed by J.Schreirer
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Lashman being excited can only mean an egs and steam release of this game
Else he would be down in the dumps and dragging us all with him :v
Else he would be down in the dumps and dragging us all with him :v
It seems like the page is now gone from Amazon.
There's still a few days left in February too, maybe the Russian dude gets double redeemed.
I'm extremely curious to see when the steam app was created for it.
There's still a few days left in February too, maybe the Russian dude gets double redeemed.
I'm extremely curious to see when the steam app was created for it.
Now the question is when will Sony make it official ?we all know whybecause it's happening
The page has been taken down.....Does it mean it poke the nest ?
I've always felt that aside from the paid online nonsense, a lot of the dislike for GFWL stemmed from it being unbelievably unstable. But kinda like the failed N64 Disk Drive giving birth to the Expansion Pak (The EP was a subcomponent of the DD that really took off), GWFL had some interesting legacies. I'm a M+KB gamer myself, but the reason why gamepads are standardized on PC today is GFWL & XInput, which it pushed. In the old days, you'd generally have to configure your gamepad on a per-game basis, especially if it was newer than the game, preventing native profiles.
Even a terrible, terrible PC port like Dark Souls 1 kinda just works with Xbox gamepads because it was created as part of that initiative.
Of course, Steam Input is a far more versatile API, but the idea of being able to use an Xbox or "close enough" gamepad on PC without having to worry about bindings or button prompts or whatever was a huge boon. Almost all AAA PC games support Xbox button prompts and Xbox controllers. Some also support PS4 controllers, but that's a bit of an odd case because Sony controllers don't officially work on PC. It's more of a savvy dev workaround if anything.
On that note, however, I wonder how Sony will approach M+KB controls, plus Xbox vs PS gamepads and button prompts. There's probably some motivation for Sony to release proper PS4 gamepad drivers for Windows. And I certainly hope they take M+KB controls seriously.
After GFWL lost my Fallout 3 saves for the 4th time i just played offline. GFWL was tripe and i either avoided games that used it or played offline with it disabled. It was totally unreliable and unstable for me and i'm glad it's gone. It took a long time for XInput to not be trash too. Dead Space was a nightmare to use with KB&M. XInput made it easier to support 360 controllers but the implementations on console to PC ports were borderline garbage for a good few years. Hell, even now many developers can't support KB&M properly.
Gotta say I was half-hoping for an announcement on Feb.28.....
Who knows when Sony will make it official now.....It could be next week or in 6 months...
I just hope it's still coming.
Who knows when Sony will make it official now.....It could be next week or in 6 months...
I just hope it's still coming.
I suspect a lot of scheduling stuff is up in the air right now due to the global viral outbreak.
The benefit of XInput was not features. It was standardization. It allowed Microsoft to force the Xbox controller to become the official gamepad for PC gaming. Feature-wise it was a lot worse in terms of button counts, stick range, etc. But it made Xbox controllers plug and play affairs, which was a game changer, As long as your gamepad was modeled after an Xbox one, it would work with zero issues. Then we got wrappers that would allow other DirectInput controllers to mimic the fixed standard of an Xbox controller. It was extremely self-centered from Microsoft's perspective, and contributed to the decline of PC user interface design as many developers started pandering more and more to gamepad users in ports, but in terms of making gamepads standardized and reliable on PC, it was a huge leap forward.
That's not an XInput issue. That's a Visceral issue. All three Dead Space games have broken vsync (it caps to 30fps and has frame pacing issues), and they all have extremely bad negative mouse acceleration. Dead Space 3 uses Origin instead of Steam/GFWL, and it has the exact same problems as the other two games.
I think to some degree you're putting the cart before the horse. Many big games from EA Redwood Shores/Visceral were console-only in the early 2000s. None of their James Bond games (Agent Under Fire, Everything or Nothing, From Russia With Love) came to PC. So then they make Dead Space, and it comes to PC, but it's being made by a team who seemingly have no idea what they're doing. These devs make shocking mistakes because they don't know any better.
Dead Space 1 is worse than the other games in some regards. It's so sloppily coded that if you use the "Continue" option from the main menu, your difficulty will be reset. Lotta people don't know that. You have to use the Load Game menu instead.
What GFWL and its spinoffs like XInput did was provide APIs to help clueless developers in the mid-late 2000s get a passably running PC port. Even if the mouse and keyboard support was a complete dumpster fire, the Xbox gamepad support would probably match the 360 version it was always based on.
Outside of Japanese developers, that isn't really true.
Very good post.
The controller bit in particular strikes me. Yes, we've undoubtedly lost variety in that space but having a robust standard for PC controllers has not hurt the platform I think.
I was certainly happy to use my 360 and later One controllers without having to set anything. It just...works now.
These past few years we have also seen the Dualshock 4 gaining some ground at least in terms of support.
Every now and then I check Twitter and Google to see if there are any new developments on this rumor (so far none, but some people still report that Amazon France listing as new or "official confirmation"). However - I did stumble across a person that is seemingly obsessed with this rumor, devoting a large amount of tweets to it, and after checking his Youtube channel, also filling multiple long podcasts with it. It's someone very attached to the PlayStation brand and the idea of platform exclusivity, strongly opposed to Sony's games broadening their audience and (this almost goes without saying) hostile to PC and Xbox players. It is downright bizarre. I knew people like this exist, of course, but it is always mindboggling to see for myself.
Anyway. I hope we will get some more details, news - anything - on this soon. Everytime I play HZD on PC via PS Now I think how much better this would play with M+KB controls, a better resolution, graphic options (console devs love their motion blur, I cannot stand it), and everything else PC brings to the table*.
*except EGS. Dont bring that to the PC table, Sony. Thanks.
Anyway. I hope we will get some more details, news - anything - on this soon. Everytime I play HZD on PC via PS Now I think how much better this would play with M+KB controls, a better resolution, graphic options (console devs love their motion blur, I cannot stand it), and everything else PC brings to the table*.
*except EGS. Dont bring that to the PC table, Sony. Thanks.
I think I see who you are talking about, JaytechTV right ?.
He is a moron of the purest breed. Not worth engagin with.
Thus far the Kotaku report holds. Jason has not backed down, while the original Russian rumor can be safely debunked.
I trust Kotaku on this one, he heard it from 3 different sources.
There is no reason to think it's not happening, the question is when will the official announcement take place. GDC with Epic games announcing a strategic partnership with Sony ?
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If you trust Kotaku on this one you should also trust it coming to Steam
The article mentions things are not finalized yet. I think Sony should definitely bring it to both Steam and EGS.If you trust Kotaku on this one you should also trust it coming to Steam
It's likely a temporary solution until they are ready to launch an official PS Launcher where they would sell their stuff and take 100%. A console in all but name.
Yup, thats the guy. Absolutely unbelievable. Obviously I know better than to engage with people like him, but some people seem to get dragged into "discussions" with him and it is sad to see. And a bit fascinating, how someone can have such absolute love for a corporation and everything they do. I really do wish people would stop worshipping companies and brands like religions (but I also would prefer if religions too would vanish from the face of the Earth).
I also have no reason to not believe Kotaku/Jason Schreier. And lashman sounded very confident in the matter, too. So I believe that currently, it's just a matter of time (and timing, for Sony).
If you trust Kotaku on this one you should also trust it coming to Steam
As has been discussed elsewhere, I also very much hope for a simultaneous release on Steam and whatever else they decide. If they are serious about expanding to PC, they would do well to use Steam. Making their own launcher would be fine with me too.
I've probably said it before, but Horizon to PC is a mean to an end : expanding the Playstation ecosystem to PC.
I don't believe the Decima argument, for reference it was long the lines of "well Death Stranding is coming to PC so might as well throw Horizon too". Nope, that does not work like that. Any Playstation game could be ported to PC, ressources permitting.
That's why a PS Launcher is a question of when rather than if. I suppose they could wait until 3-4 high profile games hit PC before officially unveiling their plans,
In the meantime Epic and/or Steam will have to do. I think it makes sense to support both storefronts but who knows what kind of rhetoric Epic could employ to sway Sony.
Just like you I can't wait until this is made official.
I don't think Sony has their own launcher plans. They'll probably have account linking inside the game for trophies and such, but that's it.
If they plan on releasing multiplayer games it would make sense to have a fully fledged launcher. They are a big player they have the ressources to make that a reality but it does not make sense for one game.
I imagine they would also like a place where they could take 100% of each sale just like they do on a Playstation 1st party sale.
It's how I see things playing out in a year or so.
I reckon they'll do a launcher. PC is an untapped market for their platform, plus they can see customers migrating two ways: cloud streaming and PC. Best to lay the groundwork on both fronts to keep their market in a post-console environment.
I'd take that over the Epic Games store.
I really hope it does the game deserves to be pushed beyond limits!
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