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Dragon1893

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I know its been said thousands of times now but must be said again....

Retroarch on Deck is so amazing.

Even if the Deck couldn't play PC games and didn't have SteamOS...it would still be worthy every penny as an emulation only handheld.

I've been playing some of those old gen Pokemon games and the dpad is just perfect.
Yeah, it's a great emulation machine, but playing old 2D fighting games actually made me realize my only major gripe with the Deck, the d-pad sucks for that type of game.
 

Knurek

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I know its been said thousands of times now but must be said again....

Retroarch on Deck is so amazing.

Even if the Deck couldn't play PC games and didn't have SteamOS...it would still be worthy every penny as an emulation only handheld.

I've been playing some of those old gen Pokemon games and the dpad is just perfect.
My old LCDeck had the perfect DPad
My current OLEDeck has a terrible Dpad
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Li Kao

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Does it actually vibrate? It seems the behavior it has when using the touch-pads
It has been some weeks so my memory is fuzzy but it is kinda comparable in my mind. But Iā€™m leaning on not intended because the effect doesnā€™t happen on every dpad direction.
Couple that with the fact the dpad is really on the border of the deck and Iā€™m mostly left with the maybe false impression itā€™s just a quality issue thing.
 

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I'm excited for TGM4, even if I'm never gonna be good enough at Tetris for the higher level stuff. I like that stuff like it exists, I guess.

Oh no, the Arc System Works lobbies are spreading. We'll have an epidemic soon.
 
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Li Kao

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Was Lunacid good ? I don't know, I played a few hours day 1 in EA and it felt overall just very old.
Nothing wrong with that, but did the game evolve during EA ?
 
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Panda Pedinte

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Was Lunacid good ? I don't know, I played a few hours day 1 in EA and it felt overall just very old.
Nothing wrong with that, but did the game evolve during EA ?
It's a good heavily inspired by King's Field so I think this is why you felt very old.

I did not played it during the EA phase so can I can't offer any insight if the game changed or not.
 
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Arc

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Final Fantasy XVI has only sold 3.5 million copies in ~2 years. That's after shipping 3 million first week and the PC release. Those numbers are atrocious for a mainline FF and are near Fire Emblem numbers.

I don't even think a day one PC/Xbox/Switch 2 release would have helped XVI. It's simply a mediocre action game and downright terrible RPG with only a few bright spots (set pieces and music). SE really needs to figure out some kind of identity for mainline Final Fantasy and stick with it because turning it into a Devil May Cry knockoff with one weapon and pointless stats isn't it.
 

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Final Fantasy XVI has only sold 3.5 million copies in ~2 years. That's after shipping 3 million first week and the PC release. Those numbers are atrocious for a mainline FF and are near Fire Emblem numbers.
Are you not being a bit unfair here? This is a small AA game from a small Japanese indie developer. 3 mill seems quite good in that context. For comparison, a AAA powerhouse like Hazelight will of course sell 2 million in one week. It is famously well known that co-op games sell bajillions compared to such niche genres like "role-playing-games".
 
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Yeah the FF thing with SE is very strange. We now have companies other than Nintendo that are able to sell 10+ million units of a game and yet SE seems to be struggling with one of the most well recognized and admired RPG series from Japan and yet.

Back during the PS1 era FF7 sold over 10 million units(?) and during the PS2 era Monster Hunter only sold some 220k+ units and now with Monterey Hunter Wilds that dwarfs FFXVI sales.

I have not played FFXIV so I can't really say anything bad about it, but something must be happening when other companies are doing very well. Will we ever have a other FF game that sells over 10 million units? I think those days are long gone. FF7 remake is at 7 million units it seems.


Speaking of JRPGs. I still feel like Xenoblade and also the Kiseki, are maybe some of the only modern examples of "niche" JRPGs that everyone praises but no one plays. Do you have very dedicated fans base and stuff but don't really sell that may units. It sells enough for the series to keep going but never reaches the same audience as other games. In other words during the PS1-PS3 era there were JRPGs that did get released outside of Japan but were still "niche" despite how much people praised the games. I don't really think that type of game really exist anymore right? Stuff like Persona seems to have become even way more mainstream than Xenoblade. Maybe a lot of those companies got shut down or moved on to other types of games.
 
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rickyson33

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Speaking of JRPGs. I still feel like Xenoblade and also the Kiseki, are maybe some of the only modern examples of "niche" JRPGs that everyone praises but no one plays. Do you have very dedicated fans base and stuff but don't really sell that may units. It sells enough for the series to keep going but never reaches the same audience as other games. In other words during the PS1-PS3 era there were JRPGs that did get released outside of Japan but were still "niche" despite how much people praised the games. I don't really think that type of game really exist anymore right? Stuff like Persona seems to have become even way more mainstream than Xenoblade. Maybe a lot of those companies got shut down or moved on to other types of games.
there's quite a few that come to mind actually that keep getting new games and are generally pretty well liked by those who play them but never quite stop being fairly niche

Yakuza, Fire Emblem, Tales, Atelier etc

Japanese studios in general seem a lot more willing than western ones to be comfortable with a series continuing to just be successful within it's niche instead of wanting to shut the whole thing down if it doesn't become a mainstream mega hit

personally I think it's kinda the best place for a series to be for fans of it and never really understand people so badly wanting series like that that they like to become more mainstream, if something like Xenoblade were to become much more popular there would probably be significant pressure on them to do things like reduce the amount of gameplay systems in them and move to a more generic action combat system when stuff like that is why I even like the series to begin with

and as a fan what would I even get in exchange for it losing it's identity? more people talking about it? no thanks, as long as a series isn't at risk of actually dying i'll take it staying niche any day
 
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Knurek

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Wait what? How did that happen ?
My OLEDeck DPad is slightly too small, so it travels, and if it moves too much to the left you get misclicks on the right (and vice versa). It also has a really bad, rubbery feeling on clicking.
Basically this video but slightly worse (no issues with the trigger, luckily):
 
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