Sometimes I wonder why do some games get cracked so fast while some others are on their hundreds of days uncracked.
Community The Slow Demise of Denuvo (Progress Report)
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they probably work on few of them at once and just push through the one they progressed well enough to work. It used to be competition to be first and do most recent , but i guess denuvo is problematic that it takes too long and only few can do it
BTW: another one
BTW: another one
Good lord, didn't that game have like... three layers of DRM? Kudos to them for being able to crack it.first+Denuvo title cracked
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The performance of AC: Origins on PC has always been contentious (including some old claims they ended up using a DX12 > DX11 wrapper from Intel which increased CPU usage unreasonably). Be interesting to see whether Denuvo removal affects performance in cities and the such. It will most likely improve loadtimes a bit, that much is a given. Denuvo hindering loadtimes moderately is one of its most annoying traits.
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Like Lashman says, framertime spikes. This means that in theory, even if the framerate looks similar, the non-Denuvo version will feel smoother to play. Frametime spiking can result in a game that is supposedly running close to 60fps but it feels jerky and uneven. The idea that Origins and potentially Odyssey has microstutters due to Denuvo is annoying. I get why they're using Denuvo, and I'd point out that Odyssey's DLC still isn't cracked. So it is effective, at least currently. But you're visibly harming the core gameplay experience. Every spike on the graphic is the game feeling odd. They need to evaluate gamefeel when implementing DRM. This is a very similar problem to what one of those fighting games had, where Denuvo was hammering a register and causing a brief hitch when certain moves were performed.
This is great. But didn't we have multiple Denuvo tests with games that removed it by the publisher?
well then ...
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i don't think any of them measured frametimes (but i might be wrong) ... just general framerate
The recent Assassin's Creed games were particularly contentious examples because of how CPU heavy they are. With the possible exception of Hitman, none of the games with pre-post Denuvo test cases had the kind of CPU-wrecking strain an Assassin's Creed game has. Very few companies make games like this. Even fewer use Denuvo and then remove it so we can compare.
Someone linked me a report that disputes the earlier benchmark and conclusions drawn from it. It's pretty in depth. Basically, the performance values are within margin of error. But they didn't have proper means to test loadtimes.
so instead of testing whats known to be an issue (loadtimes) , people still stuck to whats been conspiracy teories on recent D impelmentations (performance)
DSOG did a report of their own. It's rather confusingly worded, TBH.
www.dsogaming.com
It sounds like the Denuvo version stutters in certain scenarios without hyperthreading, and also load times are improved in the Denuvo-less version.
Assassin's Creed: Origins - Denuvo vs Denuvo-free benchmarks - Significantly less stuttering, faster loading
Framerate wise, we did not experience any differences between these two versions. However, the pirated version had faster loading times and less stutters.
www.dsogaming.com
That's exactly what I found using somewhat rigorous (not what I'd put in a paper, but far better than what I see many popular youtubers doing) testing methods for FF15 in my PC gamer article where we also had a non-DRM executable. (And also that loading times might be affected)
Some people back then got stupidly angry about that article.
Seriously, there are enough reasons not to support any intrusive DRM, you don't need to make up additional ones mostly based on really bad reporting.
doesnt seem to be deuvo from what i read ... it just ahve "may include denuvo in its eula" ... but the game itself seems to have just steamworks .. also it doesnt seem to have native Xinput implementation and only relies on SteamInput
Did they implement native steam controller trackball input? I always felt that a ball-rolling game would benefit significantly from that.
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nope ... both of the touchpads are completely dead using the official configuration ... just the left stick and the buttons work
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yeah the game does not have it as per the warnings in the page.
Denuvo doesn't even support Unity games so it wouldn't even matter really.
Worst is Two Points Hospital It used workarounds to use Denuvo on Unity,
But they also released Linux on same date, which meant you could copy unprotected .net assembly from there.
Worst is Two Points Hospital It used workarounds to use Denuvo on Unity,
But they also released Linux on same date, which meant you could copy unprotected .net assembly from there.
Epic just pulled the Detroid demo from the store because it allowed to start the full game with the same Denuvo activation with a simple exploit (Heavy Rain and Beyond had similar exploits)...
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Clearly pulling it from the store will remove it from the internet.
I'd imagine they also disabled new activations... IF they're competent.
(Based on quick look at reddit, this seems to be the case)
Seems like the RE2 Demo doesn't have denuvo? The exe sizes between the game and demo is 361 megs vs 117 megs.
The Demo EULA is also missing this one paragraph.
The Demo EULA is also missing this one paragraph.
I wonder if I could play the full game through with the demo exe and get better load times.
This explains why modern games takes so damn long to start. After launching a game I have to stare at a splash screen for a whole minute before the game even starts. Makes me consider downloading cracks for games I own just to reduce load times.
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this would only help with AssOranges ... all the other denuvo cracks only bypass it, not completely remove it (sadly)
i dont think bypass is the right word for current solutions.
Iirc bypass is blanket term for when the DRM is circumvented by using some hole DRM devs missed or through outside method instead of dealing with DRM directly. (for example DX:MD DLC crack that was made by modifying rxr og DX:breach)
Crack is when the DRM is dealt directly no matter if its by removing it completely or making it thing that it runs legit copy
Iirc bypass is blanket term for when the DRM is circumvented by using some hole DRM devs missed or through outside method instead of dealing with DRM directly. (for example DX:MD DLC crack that was made by modifying rxr og DX:breach)
Crack is when the DRM is dealt directly no matter if its by removing it completely or making it thing that it runs legit copy
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Resident Evil 2 appears to have removed Denuvo from its latest update. Since this is the update hinting at RE3 Remake, they've also made some changes to files. A lot of changes, actually. Which is kinda weird. Data miners might be able to figure out what they're up to.
steamdb.info
Resident Evil 2 · AppID: 883710
A deadly virus engulfs the residents of Raccoon City in September of 1998, plunging the city into chaos as flesh eating zombies roam the streets for survivors. An unparalleled adrenaline rush, gripping storyline, and unimaginable horrors await you. Witness the return of Resident Evil 2. Resident...