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I wonder if they'll need the same epic level of dedication that subaru had. Didn't she take hours for the final boss? I forget exactly but i know it was a battle of wills between Subaru and the game at times.
 

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I wonder if they'll need the same epic level of dedication that subaru had. Didn't she take hours for the final boss? I forget exactly but i know it was a battle of wills between Subaru and the game at times.
The one where Subaru took hours was pretty much the bad end route, where the final boss is much harder than the normal and good ending routes.
It's likely they won't do the bad end route, since that one has very specific requirements. Marine right now already can't get neither the good or bad ends in her current playthrough, only the normal one.
 

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Is there any other community that gets banned, terminated or demonitised as randomly and as frequently as Hololive?
Cherry boy Youtube needs to sort it's AI out. So far the most stable job in this current economy is working at Cover Corp as their Youtube liason. Luckily it was only for 30 minutes but they nearly had Ellie Tomiko paying their HQ a visit and i'm sure she'd take Suisei with her to find out why she's still demonetised.

Here's the latest Holo No Graffiti. Contains a response to the "Yagoo's Dreams" memes.

I forget which stream/clip the same thing was mentioned but it was a week or two ago. The idea with Bloom is to form groups outside of their usual or expected collab partners and see what "Blooms" from these ideas. It sounds great to be honest. Keeps things fresh and interesting.

... and reactions to Erofi during the HoloID/HoloStars Among Us collab.
Translated clip with links to all POVs in description.

I'll watch some of the streams later on, i've been playing games these last few days and missed a ton of content. hopefully there's some translated clips from the Bloom Fest pre-event videos soon.
 
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We need a better platform than Youtube, seriously. Not saying Holo should discard millions of subscribers and views, but... I don't know. A platform which protects its content creators rather than ad revenue from corporations or copyright trolls, I wish there's something like it exists.

Here's the latest Holo No Graffiti. Contains a response to the "Yagoo's Dreams" memes.
Good localisation
Yakuza reference
concise anime speech

Better than most recent anime tbh.
 

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I like Youtube mainly because there's a different feel to chat compared to most of Twitch and i think Cover/Holo is comfortable with Youtube and i'm sure they will soon see fewer incidents. Hopefully.

After reading clips for a while and then watching HoloNo i realised just how good their localization is for the translations in those skits.

More PolkaMiko Demon Lord...


... and of course Miko is back on her Daily Janken fix again. lol. She is sooo competitive. Miko is even going back in to minecraft during superchat readings if chat remind her and she's also berating chat when they don't remind her to go play it before finishing the stream. lol. Watame must have known she was building a Miko Magnet.
 
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After reading clips for a while and then watching HoloNo i realised just how good their localization is for the translations in those skits.
For sure. Like, as time goes on and the fandom getting bigger every day, there's plenty of speed-subbers fighting for that Youtube recommendation. However, most of them seem to neglect basic spellchecking even for the thumbnail for their clip, let alone checking proper context (of which Japanese is extremely context-heavy) to avoid misunderstanding what the girls are trying to say. It's not even about how English is probably not their native language, but in my opinion, you have to at least have a certain degree of English fluency before even considering making these clips.




Watching the Hololive-ID girls, I realise that the skill ceiling to join Hololive is getting higher every generation. Not only you have to be at least decent in gaming or singing, but being multi-lingual (or at least putting a decent effort into interacting with non-JP audience) is absolutely essential in order to retain your audience (not only high sub count, but live viewer count).

 

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Hololive Alternative announced, it's not exactly clear what it is yet, but it's gonna encompass multiple projects, including twitter comics and what could possibly be an anime? (could also be a high quality music video too, or even the opening for a game, there's no info about what the teaser is about)


 
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Hololive Alternative announced, it's not exactly clear what it is yet, but it's gonna encompass multiple projects, including twitter comics and what could possibly be an anime? (could also be a high quality music video too, or even the opening for a game, there's no info about what the teaser is about)


 

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Calli sang the song in the teaser also. xD



A few more details here (in JP):

Using DeepL machine translation:
HOLOLIVE ALTERNATIVES project launched!

The project to build the world of Hololive, which was unveiled as "Holoearth Chronicles" at the 2019 Winter Comic, is now in full swing as the "Hololive Alternative" project!

Aim of the project

We would like to provide experiences, such as virtual live performances and online games, that can be enjoyed by our talent and fans in the same space. In the "Hololive Alternative" project, we will be building a worldview for this purpose through Twitter comics and anime PVs.

How did we come up with the anime PV?

For the production of today's anime PV, we had the cooperation of a wonderful team of creators, including animator Yukei Yamada. It all started with a tweet on April Fool's Day last year.

Future plans

We will continue to work with a variety of creators to create things and provide services that will surprise you, so please keep your eyes on us. We are also looking for people who are willing to take on the challenge of creating things together, so please contact us from the recruitment page below.

We are still in the beginning of a long road, but we would appreciate your support for this project. Thank you very much for your support.
<We are looking for collaborating creators.

Please contact us through the "Hololive Alternative" website.

<Hiring Employees

For the launch of our new service, we are actively recruiting people from other industries, such as the application and game industries. Please feel free to apply!

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 

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I wonder if Hololive Alternative is related to the project Marine was talking about, or if that's yet another thing.
 

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Looks like we were right and Cover were planning to branch out. Pretty obvious really but i'm taking my Nostradamus Award anyway :)

Was watching some old IronMouse clips last night and she definitely deserves the fanbase she's building up.
These two in particular had me howling.

Her reaction to her attempt at a "Family Friendly Stream"...


The consequences of the "Family Friendly Stream"...


Two things that Mousey does NOT like because they freak her out are:
Space - The vastness of space twisted her melon while she was tripping balls one night, she's still freaked out by it.
Birds - Pointy, pecking things that aren't to be trusted.
 
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Kiryu Coco is now the 10th Hololive member to reach 1m subs. More than any other member, she's had to deal with a ton of bullshit these past few months and YouTube even attempted to ban her celebration stream for violating terms of service, but she got there in the end. She pushed for the idea of HoloEN and its safe to say Vtubers would not be as popular in the West without her.

 
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YouTube even attempted to ban her celebration stream for violating terms of service, but she got there in the end.
I was watching her celebration stream live and it was amazing. It's a repeat performance of her return stream after her suspension back in September last year where the chat moves incredibly fast, rainbow superchat almost every second and there's no point in reporting bots because they were drowned by the sea of emojis and superchats, only this time everything moves twice as fast! The stream also keeps buffering every 10 seconds. :dana_blanket:

I had a suspicion that the antis were mass-reporting her first stream which was shadow-banned within minutes, but in the end, it didn't really matter. She earned more than two million yen in half an hour. Tatsunokos have deep pockets, I tell ya.

 

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Holo ENxID Collab of Momotatsu later on.


Looks like Konami slapped some limitations on it.
※For this particular game, clipping and/or uploading videos of this stream to YouTube is strictly prohibited by the game developer and publisher.

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The legend of Korone and Mike Tyson's A... no. He's back tho.



... and some Nyanners Bloodborne highlights which made me laugh.
 
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There's an official HololiveALT channel and they've announced a Manga.
Probably a 4-Panel Twitter Manga according to some thinking but who knows?



In the near future, a manga based on an original story set in "Alternative" will be released on Twitter! We will send you the details soon, so Please follow this account and wait for more information ✨
 

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Holo Stay/Live Unlimited Gyudon Works






This is a rather precious clip from Flare and Marine's Marshmallow stream. They're talking about Polka being a worrywart

 

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Pikamee wants to be the only english VOMS member

"what the fuck? you guys have me"

Not anymore Pika!
 

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I said before that for all her craziness and japes she is able to change tempo in a flash and has been involved as a commentator, judge or host for a couple of quiz/chat type streams with her senpais. She's going for full Ring Master training as she said in her debut. Not just a clown she's going for the skills to run the whole Circus. I thought Polka would be a bit much for my taste but i think she's fantasic and could watch her any time, no problem. Well, apart from the language barrier obviously.

Anteater Isn't VOMS a project by GYARI because he loves VTubers? It's not a huge corporation like Cover more like a side-project for him?
I'm not sure if they're geared up to handle more talents in Japan let alone the rest of the world but it'd be hilarious great to see Pikamee as a senapai to a new gen for sure.


Merged post:
Sora's cover of KING has been released.

 
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The last two Holorewinds. Tbh I hardly seen any of the HoloCN-girls' streams last year, so I don't know much about them.




The complete playlist of 12 videos.

 
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I only saw bits of Artia's streams and a couple of the other girls, Doris?, as they were on Twitch and i rarely go there any more. It's a shame what happened with HoloCN but in my mind it was kind of inevitable that Cover would consider reducing or pulling out of the market once the scale of the trolling and spam was realised and how it could escalate. Due to the two language barriers and unconfirmed reports, rumours and badly translated or out-of-context information we were getting i don't know the HoloCN girl's involvement so i'll just wish them well and the same to the Chinese fans who got caught up in the whole mess and who just wanted to watch entertaining people do entertaining things the same as we do.

Coco is still dealing with the fallout even now when you get bursts of activity from the Antis especially during holidays but it has declined and she knows she has everyone's support which must help a lot.
 
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This looks like a rendered view of Holo Micra server. I'm not familiar with Minecraft's engine, but... how can someone make something like this without actual access to the server? Seems too detailed for a pixel art reproduction to me.

 

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There's a frequently updated map posted on twitter, i posted it a few days ago. There was also a reddit article where this server was mentioned as being open to the "public" now and then... and yeah, it's a rebuild of HoloJP server in minecraft and rendered out with a tool.

I think they are just REALLY keen fans who use screenshots and co-ords from the F3 overlay to plan things out. A lot of the mehcanisms used on Holoservers were taken from online guides anyway so that will give a good basis. Also, a lot of the time for the big builds they have layered schematic images in the corner so they know what blocks to place. It's be easy for a diligent fan to grab a screenshot of each layer and recreate the build. Also, some people are scary good at Minecraft and can figure out a build from videos and screens quite easily.

Cover wouldn't release the world seed as people would just load up the world in an editor and "guide" the girls to diamonds etc in the chat taking away the fun of the journey. People have algorithms and automation to help find world seeds and locations based off screenshots of Bedrock patterns or even the position of flowers when generated. That would only make the world look right though which you can do in a terrain editor/world builder quite easily anyway.

I don't think the server seed has been leaked or revealed and i don't think anyone has taken a world download and released it so i think it's just dedicated fans who are really experienced with minecraft. It takes a fraction of the time to build something on your own server in creative mode with infinite materials and the ability to fly. You can also use tools to easily copy/paste buidlings into the right spot which makes moving stuff around much easier than survival mode.
 
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I think they are just REALLY keen fans who use screenshots and co-ords from the F3 overlay to plan things out.
Being able to create an almost 1:1 replica of Holotown is scary. Although it doesn't seem too far-fetched when knowing people actually built transistors in Micra using redstone blocks as logic gates.
 
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Not content with doing the song for Hololive Alternative, Calli now also did the song for Princess Connect Re: Dive. Talk about busy!


 
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Monoe breached her contract but they're not going to go into it and only asked fans to not speculate and also don't go after them.

This is terrible.

 
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Monoe breached her contract but they're not going to go into it and only asked fans to not speculate.

This is terrible.
Yeah...I understand they do not want folks to speculate, but it feels so out of the blue it is hard not to be completely floored. Heck, I did not even realise they were in the sort of contractual agreement that could have them terminated.
 

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Yeah...I understand they do not want folks to speculate, but it feels so out of the blue it is hard not to be completely floored. Heck, I did not even realise they were in the sort of contractual agreement that could have them terminated.
yeah they're supposedly to be independent so i don't know what she did for this to happen.

i'm incredibly sad to hear pika crying on stream, i've never heard her come close to crying and this is her first stream after the hiatus.
 
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Kvik That's because Miko lost her last Elytra helping Watame look for a biome. She was flying along and a tree leapt out in front of her.
Miko has been burning through Elytra recently and even the others were joking with her calling her slow-coach and saying it's like a Learner Driver who has to drive slowly before they can get a fast car. lol.


That's a terrible shame about Monoe, hopefully the other two VOMS are okay and i'm sure they'll get a ton of support from the fans. It's a shock especially as we were recently chatting about VOMS future expansion and yet the opposite happened.

As far as i am aware VOMS obviously have Contracts but the requirements are pretty open so they can stream what they want, when they want but GYARI owns their likeness and merch. Well, best wishes and good luck to everyone involved!


Ollie reacts to Kiara's KING cover and then listens to Sora's KING cover:
Timestamp: 06:04:50
 
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Miko has been burning through Elytra recently and even the others were joking with her calling her slow-coach and saying it's like a Learner Driver who has to drive slowly before they can get a fast car. lol.
When they finally found an Elytra and about to head back to Holoserver, Watame asked Miko if she's fine with just one Elytra. Miko said she'll take good care of it. I'll give it a couple of weeks before she loses it again. :dana_blanket:
 
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https://www.youtube.com/post/UgzzC--52hyY6859TGJ4AaABCQ

Mido Hayama made a post about Monoe on her channel. She talked about it on her stream but I didn't watch it.

Translation is in the comments:

Thanks for coming yesterday, everyone. I never thought I'd end up doing a stream like that one, but in these past three days I've had to face the fact that, obvious though it is, even things that seem like they could never realistically happen do sometimes come to pass in reality.

Before I continue, let me quote what I already said in the description of my stream.

> What happened today was officially a "termination due to breach of contract". It's not the same thing as a "graduation", and to speak too euphemistically about Jitomi-san's retirement might cheapen the painfulness of the decision the two remaining VOMS members and GYARI had to make.

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> So, please interpret what I say during this stream ultimately as a personal message from me, an expression of my personal gratitude to her, and just my own way of dealing with the situation as the owner of this channel. I trust that you all will understand. Thank you very much.

Now, another day has passed, but it still doesn't feel real to me. Sometimes I wish this was all just a bad joke, but that isn't the case, of course, and neither have their been any further developments. Just by the nature of the thing, it's likely that there never will be.

And so for now, all we can do is pray that she's doing well (I saw that she left a message via Pikamee's stream, thankfully), as we do our best to go on with our lives.

So today, as usual, I'm going to eat my lunch, make a thumbnail, and have fun at the Koumuten stream later. And there's my second anniversary stream in two days, too.

Thank you for your support.

Until next time.
Tokiya also tweeted this


Both of them have collabed with Monoe often. I've seen Mido in Monoe's chat a few times.
 
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I know it's a big meme and I don't know when it started but my first exposure to this was with Denmomcstronghuge's FFXIV video.


And it's now become "Smug Gura Dancing" and there's a bunch of videos out there.

 
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