EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 will take an hour to add all those keys to my account. 
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May be controversial, but I would take a game not being on pc over being forced to use Epic
I'll just pass on that game.May be controversial, but I would take a game not being on pc over being forced to use Epic
Of course, I meant if the publisher goes "Get good sales on Epic or we are not releasing on PC anymore".
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But, it's totally worth it.EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 will take an hour to add all those keys to my account.
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yeah, you're absolutely right ... they HAVE TO say something, and fast!
Don't enhanced steam have mass activator?EARTH DEFENSE FORCE 4.1 will take an hour to add all those keys to my account.
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copy & paste one key per line, much faster than doing so individually I think.
Same, I love Supergiant and their games (Transistor is one of my favorite games ever), but as much at it sucks sorry, I'm not giving 1 cent to Epic
Isn't Hades temp exclusive until it's ready (so probably a year or so)? Wait for Steam release, get better game and for cheaper.
Nice, I'll wait until that moment then.
The only good thing coming out of this Epic disaster is that I'm getting more time to work on my backlog
Or maybe not, it keeps increasing in size
I don’t really disagree, but that’s because I’m in a unique situation.May be controversial, but I would take a game not being on pc over being forced to use Epic
I often game on a laptop (a Mac with partitions no less
) so unsurprisingly, higher end games don’t always have the best performance. If the choice is between being locked into Epic’s shitty launcher with a digital copy or a retail copy on console, I might as well get a console version that’s going to (probably) have better compatibility and optimized performance for my specific console.Plus, hilariously, if they’re so worried about dev cuts, they’ll get even less from me buying a retail copy of their game. Less from the initial sale, and they’ll miss out on me putting the game on used game markets
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Yeah, it sucks that we may end up missing a few games.
But then, I look at my Steam library, and I see I haven't even played Mutant Year Zero. Or Phantom Doctrine. Or Life is Strange: Before the Storm. Or Life is Strange 2. Or Vampyr. Or the new Prey. Or Deux Ex: Mankind Divided. Or Sunset Overdrive. Or a few hundreds more.
Yeah, how will I live without an Epic Games Store account.
But then, I look at my Steam library, and I see I haven't even played Mutant Year Zero. Or Phantom Doctrine. Or Life is Strange: Before the Storm. Or Life is Strange 2. Or Vampyr. Or the new Prey. Or Deux Ex: Mankind Divided. Or Sunset Overdrive. Or a few hundreds more.
Yeah, how will I live without an Epic Games Store account.
Happy February my favorite month with 28 or 29 days
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The thing about valves reaction is, that there are many ways valve could react, but only a few ways i'd want them to.
It's an easy thing for valve to start moneyhatting games of their own, but the moment they do it, it'll seal its fate as a standard business practice going forward. Valve due to their influence is ultimately the one who sets the precedent here, not epic or Discord. The latter already gave up that strategy seemingly.
That said, if i were valve, i'd do the following.
Lower the cut 5% across the board.
That way valve won't really change a lot, but they'll immediately make devs feel like they got a win out of all this.
Start a steam developer fund.
Take another 5% of your cut and reinvest it therein, It'll be a fund developers can apply to with their prototypes and early access games, who gets money and how much will be 100% up to valve, not the community to prevent abuse like it happened during Greenlight. Developers who get funded will have obligation to launch on steam (duh) but are still allowed to make development and publishing decisions by themselfs, including being able to sell it on competing stores and launchers too. But devs will have to pay valve a cut for all copies sold, not just copies sold on steam. Let's say 10% for all nonsteam copies.
Produce a Steamdirect show.
Hire some semi-famous youtuber or tv moderator and create a monthly indiehighlight reel that will be viewable on the frontpage of steam, as well as youtube and others. Similar process to the steam fund, developers will be able to apply for it, but appearences will be chosen by valve. Cost of application will be that all your games sold during the month of promotion will be sold at a 35% cut for valve. That way it would hopefully discourage devs of games like Hollow Knight or Dead Cells to apply for it because those don't need it and would just steal the spotlight.
In regards to steam reviews,
Give developers a report button that is treated seperately from the normal report button us common users get.
The developers button would have a VIP flag in valves ticket system that would push it in front of all others.
Then publish clear guidelines as to what constitutes an abusive review and what does not.
Abusive =
Kill yourself
Developer is SJW trash
Swastikas/Nazism and other illegal content
etc.
Not abusive =
"Game sux"
"Game does not support my favorite input method"
"Modding is getting DMCA'd even though the game sold itself on that idea for the last 5 years"
It's an easy thing for valve to start moneyhatting games of their own, but the moment they do it, it'll seal its fate as a standard business practice going forward. Valve due to their influence is ultimately the one who sets the precedent here, not epic or Discord. The latter already gave up that strategy seemingly.
That said, if i were valve, i'd do the following.
Lower the cut 5% across the board.
That way valve won't really change a lot, but they'll immediately make devs feel like they got a win out of all this.
Start a steam developer fund.
Take another 5% of your cut and reinvest it therein, It'll be a fund developers can apply to with their prototypes and early access games, who gets money and how much will be 100% up to valve, not the community to prevent abuse like it happened during Greenlight. Developers who get funded will have obligation to launch on steam (duh) but are still allowed to make development and publishing decisions by themselfs, including being able to sell it on competing stores and launchers too. But devs will have to pay valve a cut for all copies sold, not just copies sold on steam. Let's say 10% for all nonsteam copies.
Produce a Steamdirect show.
Hire some semi-famous youtuber or tv moderator and create a monthly indiehighlight reel that will be viewable on the frontpage of steam, as well as youtube and others. Similar process to the steam fund, developers will be able to apply for it, but appearences will be chosen by valve. Cost of application will be that all your games sold during the month of promotion will be sold at a 35% cut for valve. That way it would hopefully discourage devs of games like Hollow Knight or Dead Cells to apply for it because those don't need it and would just steal the spotlight.
In regards to steam reviews,
Give developers a report button that is treated seperately from the normal report button us common users get.
The developers button would have a VIP flag in valves ticket system that would push it in front of all others.
Then publish clear guidelines as to what constitutes an abusive review and what does not.
Abusive =
Kill yourself
Developer is SJW trash
Swastikas/Nazism and other illegal content
etc.
Not abusive =
"Game sux"
"Game does not support my favorite input method"
"Modding is getting DMCA'd even though the game sold itself on that idea for the last 5 years"
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ehh, dunno about the Steamdirect ... i mean - it's an awesome idea ... but then you'd get devs complaining about not being chosen (and that they have to give volvo more if they are) ... i 100% guarantee you it would happen
not sure about the review thing either ... i mean - it IS a good idea ... but i can already see some devs complaining it takes days for volvo to react, or something similar ... and, of course, a few devs would probably abuse the shit out of that system and just report all bad reviews (which would only slow down volvo's react time to real tickets even more)
the first two are really good, though ... i would only change one small thing in the second one: the fund is "repayable" ... as in: they have to have the game on steam, of course ... but they only pay volvo the 10% until they "repay" the money they got from volvo ... after that - it's the usual, but the game still has to be on steam (and wherever else the devs decide to sell it)
Hektor I think the cut changes would be a good start. Sadly a lot of the other moves would require Valve to work like an organization with a vision and a strong leader which they are not and do not have. The flat management style at Valve sort of prevents them from unilaterally making big moves like this unless it is Gabe Newell directly doing something. Otherwise every effort has to be small because there are usually only a few people creating it.
I especially like your idea about giving the developers a perceived win. I think that's a lot of what this is about. Epic's platform is giving them a perceived win, and this would be a good way to hit back. I think the Steamdirect show would be a fabulous idea in general, but that sort of thing seems like something that would take an entire department to do, and we all know Valve doesn't do a great job at that sort timed release stuff (weekly or monthly even you know it would 100% be late).
All great ideas but I doubt any of them happen.
I especially like your idea about giving the developers a perceived win. I think that's a lot of what this is about. Epic's platform is giving them a perceived win, and this would be a good way to hit back. I think the Steamdirect show would be a fabulous idea in general, but that sort of thing seems like something that would take an entire department to do, and we all know Valve doesn't do a great job at that sort timed release stuff (weekly or monthly even you know it would 100% be late).
All great ideas but I doubt any of them happen.
And anyone trying to get in will be disappointed, with having to wait until mid-19 - 2020 until Epic will even think accepting non 'winners'.
Singling out games and developers to promote will not solve anything. Every other developer will complain because their game didn't get picked. It is very clear that Valve is not currently interested in playing the role of curator.
I never got it to work
I use this neat tool instead
Ezzpify/SteamBulkActivator
Works perfectly when redeeming mass amount of keys
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I just want 2019 to end, Epic Game Launcher to finally close down after a tumultuous year full of PR blunders and studio closures and Valve handheld PC to finally launch.
I need a Steamboy. I'll even take a lightweight streaming device.
Bah.
So many good games, so little money in the bank.
So many good games, so little money in the bank.
That rumored 4A news got a sensible chuckle out of me
Shatter is one of the best puzzle/block breaking games you can get on Steam, but you'd need to remind those interested in the genre that it is on Steam for them to grab it alongside, if not over, another great puzzle game that'd interest them.
There's just way too many good games as is. There are just as many older good games on Steam, indie or otherwise, that it becomes difficult to remember ALL of them.
Shatter is one of the best puzzle/block breaking games you can get on Steam, but you'd need to remind those interested in the genre that it is on Steam for them to grab it alongside, if not over, another great puzzle game that'd interest them.
The DLC for EDF didn't really take too long to activate imo. The only thing that took a little bit of time was trying to figure out which code for the actual game.
Nvidia was way ahead of the game with the original shield.
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if only it wasn't an ARM device and could run real games ...
Are the humble monthly games ok to play solo? I played a little of verminitide 2 last month on gamepass for the ms rewards challenge but not enough to really take in anything or know what I was doing. I'm more interested in cultist simulator than the other two admittedly.
You can no problem with EDF at least. I find EDF to be a blast regardless if it's 1, 2 or 4 players. With EDF just make sure you play in the single player mode as playing in multiplayer the difficulty is much tougher and doesn't scale so much, I think that's right.
Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Think I'll pull the trigger on this bundle.
Finished The Messenger (~11 hours)
Jesus, that was goddamn awesome. The game just relentlessy gets cooler and more awesome as it goes on until the very end.
Graphics are great, soundtrack is amazing, controls are tight, gameplay is super smooth and addictive, difficulty is challenging but never unfair, level design is ace and the story is interesting. Good chance this would have been on my GOTY list if I played it last year, welp.
Jesus, that was goddamn awesome. The game just relentlessy gets cooler and more awesome as it goes on until the very end.
Graphics are great, soundtrack is amazing, controls are tight, gameplay is super smooth and addictive, difficulty is challenging but never unfair, level design is ace and the story is interesting. Good chance this would have been on my GOTY list if I played it last year, welp.
Oh hell yeah EDF 4.1. I wanted to get the game for a long time now, just to check the series out.
And Hollow Knight is still too good. How did an indie dev manage to cram so much content?
And Hollow Knight is still too good. How did an indie dev manage to cram so much content?
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Yeah Hades is just in early Access on Epic at the moment then when it's done basically they're going to release it everywhere, that's what they've said at least. So basically we don't have to put up with beta testing for once.Nice, I'll wait until that moment then.
The only good thing coming out of this Epic disaster is that I'm getting more time to work on my backlog
Or maybe not, it keeps increasing in size
there are surprisingly little EDF! EDF! EDF! posts here
Does that The Messenger game play as a platformer, or is there more to it?
Does that The Messenger game play as a platformer, or is there more to it?
How is the pc version of EDF?
Tempted to grab this bundle, but it’s the only early unlock I don’t have lol
Tempted to grab this bundle, but it’s the only early unlock I don’t have lol
It's good performance wise, maybe a bit weird on keyboard controls and such, but with a joystick it works perfectly.
Nice I’d prob play with controller anyway. Is it 4 player max online?
I was going to spam the fuck out of EDF posts in here but thought it might upset people.
EDF! EDF! EDF! RAAAAAAAAAA!
Good to see so much EDF love.
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I'm probably never going to play this since I'm complete butt at this type of game. But goodness that OST is hype.
just put like 4 hours into Cultist Simulator, kinda loving it, learning how to play it and the rules is quite an experience. It just dawned on me that it's basically a card / board game (the fact you LITERALLY play on a board with cards should have clued me in lol), to the point I can totally see myself play a physical version of this. It's very confusing at first and there are zero tutorials, but the game also opens with a screen saying "experiment, explore, the more you play the more youll master it" or something, so I guess it's intended. My runs are lasting longer and longer thats for sure.
so between this, Verm 2 which ive been wanting for some coop goodness, and EDF which is always fun, Monthly already paid for itself for me this month, which is always nice.
so between this, Verm 2 which ive been wanting for some coop goodness, and EDF which is always fun, Monthly already paid for itself for me this month, which is always nice.
So next up I think I'm gonig to alternate between Star Ocean 4 (I'm on Roak atm) and murdering tons of giant insects in EDF! EDF! EDF!
It's an action-platformer metroidvania.
And the soundtrack is 60 songs big!
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