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Teggy

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I played through Downward this weekend, which I bought for $7.50 way back in December of 2016 when it was in early access. I am a sucker for any kind of 3D platforming, so I had a decent 10 hours with the first person parkour sort-of-collectathon. The story is barely there, the voice acting is terrible and the “combat” is really dumb, but the core traversal was fun enough to keep me engaged. I certainly wouldn’t run out and buy it, but if it falls into your hands and you like 3D platforming you might give it a chance.
 
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That history of getting one single warning for dissing consoles.

Better be careful when reporting mods and commenting on their questionable behaviour.

And while I'm typing this Echo got got too.
Yep. Banned with the same exact message lol. Made somebodies shitlist for spitting truth.

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at the hypocrisy. Moderator gets to have a shit take and not get called out. Bans you for pointing it out. Fuck right off tbh.

Don't know what to say outside that. Guess I'm just glad MC exists and that we have the rules we do. It's better to be honest and all equal imo.

Edit: The "history" part is absolutely dicks too. I have ONE warning for calling another member an idiot when they were plain as day trolling. My second was actually a 24-hour ban by an Admin after I critiqued the new theme and features too hard, but we sorted that out over PM's/Discord and my ban was revoked. (Most of my critique was caused by confusion as apparently Firefox was not tested with new stuff, the Era devs use chrome for everything I guess.)
 
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I wonder if the most sensible and realistic solution is to keep games on Steam's store for a set period, and then sunset them. Buyers can redownload them as often as wanted, but the ability to buy the game is removed. I'm not sure how much sales would be impacted if this window was set at five years, for example. I doubt many games keep doing big numbers after five years on Steam.

This is a real quote.
How far do would someone have to have their head up their rectum to get as far as even typing this out and not realize how stupid it is?

There are enough admitted perils with digital ownership, why would we want to add artificial scarcity into it? Literally one of the most important benefits that digital ownership has over physical?
 

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Can we not be like new-gaf where all they do is whine about resetera while letting trolls and shit posting run rampant though <_<

Maybe everyone can say everything now so we can skip past it all :)

I tried era, got perma banned (actually now I recall at first it was a two week ban, then I thought I'd wait it out but after checking back again it had been changed to a perma ban) after a deliberately guided misunderstanding, moved on, tried new-gaf, got temp banned after a shitshow of others, went back, saw the other person was banned, tried to give it another shot, stopped visiting anyway cos really it's just a shit show. I'm too left for gaf and too right for era or something according to their knee jerk reactions. Moving on except when I went back to gaf to post about this or that game just to help promote it a little bit, not even visiting either place for gaming news now, all I need is gamespress, gematsu a couple more places and certain niche sites for rpg, vr, pc, indie stuff.

Found this place cos it's nice to have a place to talk gaming without helping some dodgy site via its forums like ign or gamespot and such.
 
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BernardoOne

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the moderation at the other place showed their ass long ago. Still remember the name change shitshow where they banned me for a day or two and threatened to give me a perma if i criticised moderation ever again. They put that "history of hostility" garbage on there as well and when i called them out on it they provided me with them going through my post history trying to find every single post i ever made that didn't approve what a mod did or i taking some light hearted jabs at them.
 

SRossi

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oh yeah could have told you. got banned a year ago for reporting a mod. never got a warning, just a perm. nothing was lost.
 
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Kuro

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oh yeah could have told you. got banned a year ago for reporting a mod. never got a warning, just a perm. nothing was lost.
Wait, is this true? I see some mods post the stupidest shit ever so this cannot be true.
 
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SRossi

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Wait, is this true? I see some mods post the stupidest shit ever so this cannot be true.
yes it is :) I don't have a reason to lie. I haven't seen any timeframe for that ban so i assume i got permed. never checked again. maybe i should.

checked, yeah its a perm :)
 
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Kuro

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yes it is :) I don't have a reason to lie. I haven't seen any timeframe for that ban so i assume i got permed. never checked again. maybe i should.

checked, yeah its a perm :)
That seems really low, and weird. So basically mods are unquestionable, huh.. :thinking-blob:
 
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That seems really low, and weird. So basically mods are unquestionable, huh.. :thinking-blob:
Maybe they should have say, a handful of mods needing to vote the same (within a time frame) for a ban/whatever to take effect, otherwise they might as well have a bunch of Amir0xs running around like my first ban was from back in the day, such a honest person that his bans shouldn't be questioned obviously. So I wouldn't say that case is necessarily actual era policy, maybe it just so happened the first mod to see the report was the mod he reported so he banned him and deleted all records or something. Hard to fix for a large forum but they aren't even trying I guess. Even mod votes could be compromised eventually of course, if they fraternize together a lot and develop certain relationships when like-minded about certain things they could still collaborate for bs, who knows.
 
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Kuro

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Maybe they should have say, a handful of mods needing to vote the same for a ban/warning/whatever to take effect, otherwise they might as well have a bunch of Amir0xs running around like my first ban was from back in the day, such a honest person that his bans shouldn't be questioned obviously, lol. So I wouldn't say that case is necessarily actual era policy, maybe it just so happened the first mod to see the port was the mod he reported so he banned him and deleted all records or something. Hard to fix for a large forum but they aren't even trying I guess. Even mod votes could be compromised eventually of course, if they fraternize together a lot and develop certain relationships when like-minded about certain things they could still collaborate for bs, who knows.
Seems like it, feels like they're actively pushing out the PC Community so maybe it's not just few mods that wish that though. Oh well.
 
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Dinjoralo

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I keep forgetting about this place... I'll need to add it to my new tab page collection. Things certainly seem more active.
 

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I was having a bad day so decided to bury my head and play Devil May Cry 5 instead of getting near that thread.... and now I see it was a bloodbath... eesh. I know moderating a forum that large is incredibly difficult, but there are solutions if they really wanted it, after all other controversial topics have zero tolerance with bad faith arguments. Hope some good (and very patient) people don't go completely missing.

But returning to games: I suck at DMC5, but even so "auto" mode is way to auto for me. Obviously the character I'm better with is the one everyone hates :) .
However it's a great game and I'm still having a lot of fun with it. And the "live" cutscenes are funny. What a relief after forcing myself to complete the buggy mess We Happy Few - look how "smart" I'm for making the $1 trial of gamepass worth it and waste 30 hours on it.
 
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Yep. Banned with the same exact message lol. Made somebodies shitlist for spitting truth.

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at the hypocrisy. Moderator gets to have a shit take and not get called out. Bans you for pointing it out. Fuck right off tbh.

Don't know what to say outside that. Guess I'm just glad MC exists and that we have the rules we do. It's better to be honest and all equal imo.

Edit: The "history" part is absolutely dicks too. I have ONE warning for calling another member an idiot when they were plain as day trolling. My second was actually a 24-hour ban by an Admin after I critiqued the new theme and features too hard, but we sorted that out over PM's/Discord and my ban was revoked. (Most of my critique was caused by confusion as apparently Firefox was not tested with new stuff, the Era devs use chrome for everything I guess.)
I don't want to foul up the thread with too much more moderation discussion, but some of what you're describing is prone happen on almost all moderated discussion venues.
  • Users who are disliked for one reason or another can end up on a moderator's personal "shitlist" and be actioned by the more frequently. But most discussion venues typically don't tell you who is actioning your posts, so there's often little recourse to know if it's the dude with a vendetta coming after you, or just an average mod.
  • Conversely, users who are "liked" by moderation can get extra leeway to a point where it's often unreasonable, getting to make posts/arguments in tones and language that would be policed in about two seconds by a less known user.
  • On top of all of this, moderation teams have to deal with a lot of nonsense complaints and behavior in general, which often unfortunately ends up making the moderators unwilling to hear legitimate complaints when they're offered. Having become so useful to crappy feedback, they just circle the wagons and ignore the good feedback on the rare occasion someone offers it.
  • And to cap it all off, most discussion forums do not offer a place to contest removed threads/posts, closed threads, bans and warnings. The fact that this forum actually has that is pretty rare as far as I've experienced. And even in venues that it does exist (e.g., I've used /r/LeagueOfLegends companion "meta" subreddit that deals with removals), the moderators typically offer very little in the way of actual interaction and discourse.
All in all, as communities get larger and larger, what tends to happen is this nasty cycle of confirmation bias. Moderators have to deal with dumbasses all the time, so you're often only interacting with them when they're already upset by someone being a horse's ass. And they're only interacting with you after you've had to deal with similar dipshit posts and possibly now an angry mod, which is just going to make you upset as well.
 

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Saw an Ace Combat 7 patch then saw the post regarding flight stick support and got excited but in the end it was older so the patch did something else :(

ACE COMBAT 7: SKIES UNKNOWN Flight Stick Support
1 FEB @ 3:38PM - BANDAINAMCOUS COMMUNITY
ACE COMBAT 7 SKIES UNKNOWN is supporting the following flight sticks:
-Thrustmaster T. Flight Hotas 4
-Thrustmaster T. Flight Hotas One
-HORI HOTAS Flight Stick for PlayStation 4
-HORI HOTAS Flight Stick for XBOX ONE”

Please visit the official Thrustmaster homepage and read the FAQ for troubleshooting. Please also download and install the latest drivers as this may resolve the issue.

https://support.thrustmaster.com/en/product/tflighthotas4-en/
Trying to add individual products support is just dumb, just give us a configuration screen that will let us select a function, then wait for input from whatever device we choose to map to that. Having specific presets for specific sticks should merely be an option, not the only way to play with a flight stick. I mean, even if I had one of these devices maybe I'd want to map it how I want and use it in combination with a keyboard or whatever for some stuff. What a waste :(

Idk, the port is seemingly absolutely fine tech/performance wise and if you just play it with one of those sticks or a regular ass controller then it's perfectly serviceable but if you had hopes for anything else and take even one brief look at the various available configuration menus it just screams hackjob, so lame.
 
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aaaarrrrgggghhhh ... they've been there since launch!!! no one reads ToS :disapproval-blob:

i hate you all!

Let's keep Era public behind-their-back talk here to a minimum though, there's plenty of non-pointless stuff we can talk about here! :steam_pigblanket:
agreed ... there's so much more interesting stuff to talk about

I'm glad of all the console gamers supporting Epic Game Store. So I don't have to. Thank you!
well someone has to .... and it sure as hell won't be people who have been using PC as their main platform :p

So what you’re saying is you have a fetish for bit wieners.

Got it. :coffee-blob:
well he is German ...

Except the glorious lashman.
He stands above us all.
Praise.
ummm, no i don't ... i'm just a regular user like everyone else

I keep forgetting about this place... I'll need to add it to my new tab page collection. Things certainly seem more active.
yes ... you do keep forgetting :unamused-face:

i kid, i kid, lol ... no worries

Well. DMC V is sick. Stylish as fuq
yes ... yes, it is! :D

steamthread dot com :)
morningbus bless!

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Yep. Banned with the same exact message lol. Made somebodies shitlist for spitting truth.

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at the hypocrisy. Moderator gets to have a shit take and not get called out. Bans you for pointing it out. Fuck right off tbh.

Don't know what to say outside that. Guess I'm just glad MC exists and that we have the rules we do. It's better to be honest and all equal imo.

Edit: The "history" part is absolutely dicks too. I have ONE warning for calling another member an idiot when they were plain as day trolling. My second was actually a 24-hour ban by an Admin after I critiqued the new theme and features too hard, but we sorted that out over PM's/Discord and my ban was revoked. (Most of my critique was caused by confusion as apparently Firefox was not tested with new stuff, the Era devs use chrome for everything I guess.)
I feel like they've turned sharp critical tone against any mod into "History of hostility" as if you're hurling expletives and threatening them in real life. How can they expect us to foster a community when one of their mods was basically shitposting and refuses to engage when presented with a counterpoint?

That site has begun to slowly lost its way.
 
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^thanks everyone

My friens got a new pc set up with a gtx 1060 and today i checked steam with hia account.
The recommended list suggested the more well regarded games on steam auch as dead by daylight, divinity os2 and other games that ud expect the algorithm to recommend including 1 indie game.

It also recommended murdered soul suspect because i played it (he just started and has only 2 in his friendlist)
I helped him set up exclusion to his disc. Que to exclude stuff as well.
 
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^thanks everyone
:wd_kisses:

My friens got a new pc set up with a gtx 1060 and today i checked steam with hia account.
The recommended list suggested the more well regarded games on steam auch as dead by daylight, divinity os2 and other games that ud expect the algorithm to recommend including 1 indie game.

It also recommended murdered soul suspect because i played it (he just started and has only 2 in his friendlist)
I helped him set up exclusion to his disc. Que to exclude stuff as well.
so you're telling me steam doesn't recommend asset flips even to people who haven't used steam before?

 
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Wait they got GhostTrick? Daaaaang

Dang artifact has been getting mostly negative reviews lately.
I want this thing ro go f2p so i can give it a play.
 
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I was really considering dropping by the Google console thread and saying that it would be a good thing for them to join the console race because the other three were resting on their laurels but I figured it wasn't worth it.
yeah ... better not to poke the bear
 
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