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GOTY 2021 Contender released a few days ago!
New Steam Event too
New Steam Event too
Is the OG game even playable without cracking?
MDickie games are magical.
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oh hey ... animated emotes are finally fixed! woohoo ... does that mean animated avatars are back as well?
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Is a PC game really a PC game yet until its been modded with Thomas the tank engine?
Where does it say SteamBuddy?
edit: They seem to have added new VR Hardware recently... still no Index Base Stations tho. Grrrrr.
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edit: They seem to have added new VR Hardware recently... still no Index Base Stations tho. Grrrrr.
Steam VR Hardware
A landing page for some of the SteamVR supported hardware, including headsets, controllers, and base stations.
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I walk talking to a friend today about...well...life, then we started talking about game subs, game pass, ps now etc. and he told me that he viewed services like game pass and PS now are services for people who can't afford to play what they want, so they let a rental service decide what they should play even if they are not that interested in playing it.
I laughed. I don't agreed with that game pass and PS Now is foor poor people, but I do see his point for the last part. I think that's part of the reasoning why Im not interested in game pass and PS Now. I want to decide for myself what to play and when to play, thank you very much.
In defense of game pass, PS Now is even worse for some games, Persona 5 and some others only lasted 3 months before being removed. Thankfully I bought the game, otherwise I would stress the hell out.
Still waiting for Persona 5 Royal to hit Steam.
I laughed. I don't agreed with that game pass and PS Now is foor poor people, but I do see his point for the last part. I think that's part of the reasoning why Im not interested in game pass and PS Now. I want to decide for myself what to play and when to play, thank you very much.
In defense of game pass, PS Now is even worse for some games, Persona 5 and some others only lasted 3 months before being removed. Thankfully I bought the game, otherwise I would stress the hell out.
Still waiting for Persona 5 Royal to hit Steam.
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Deahtloop still requires a Bethesda account
I could see this argument for Humble Choice subscription where you get 12 games each month, without any possibility to forecast a month in advance.
However, this kind of statement about GamePass is ridiculous indeed. There are 274 games on PC Game Pass (cf. link below). Nobody else is deciding for me what I should play. I get an offer equivalent to 10% of my 10-year Steam library, with recent games (Yakuza Like a Dragon, etc.), many of which are highly appraised and which I want to play.
Xbox Game Pass Games Library | Xbox
Explore the Game Pass library and play hundreds of games.
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Well game pass decided that you should play one of the 274 games. And your choices get's edited every month.I could see this argument for Humble Choice subscription where you get 12 games each month, without any possibility to forecast two months in advance.
However, this kind of statement about GamePass is ridiculous. There are 274 games on PC Game Pass:
Nobody is deciding for me what I should play. I get an offer equivalent to 10% of my Steam library, with recent games, many of which highly appraised and which I want to play.Xbox Game Pass Games Library | Xbox
Explore the Game Pass library and play hundreds of games.www.xbox.com
True, and it is an okay deal: Microsoft shows ~300 recent games (which is a huge amount for most PC gamers), and I get to play as many as I want, possibly 0. The catalogue is so huge that the curation is barely felt.
That is a different issue: everyone knows the Windows Store is crap (when it works), and Steam's features and convenience are worth a premium to some.
It's not just that. I think a lot of PC people prefers ownership over renting. Linus and Luke talked about it on a podcast (Linus Tech Tips), they don't have game pass because if they did, they would have to schedule gaming, which is not what they want, they don't want to schedule fun.
True as well.
That being said, we are far from the first argument about GamePass players being forced to play less interesting games offered by Microsoft, because they cannot afford the interesting ones.
Moreover, people can optimize their expenses. I play on both Steam and GamePass, and it was a no-brainer to play Ori 2 on GamePass, and soon Psycho 2. The question is: is it worth it for me to pay 30 to 60 times the price of GamePass in order to enjoy the same game with Steam's features?
Well that is also the part I disagreed with, like I stated in my post.
I agreed with the part where game pass decide what games to play.
"This game pass game leaves next month, Im somewhat interested in playing it, but these other 2 games that I own I really wanna play, more than the game pass game, but the game pass game leaves next month, so I have to play that instead of the games I really wanna play"
I know this is true because it is what happened to me and was the reason I realized game pass does not fit me.
It first happened with Kingdom Hearts 3. I did not know when it was about to leave, I was not in the mood to play it, but I still wanted to, so I forced myself through the game. It was a fun game and I was going to play it, but I was not in the mood for it at that time, but game pass pushed me to play it. It did not feel good at all.
You should see GamePass as a demo service (as you usually do). There is no need to rush the game. The only important thing to do is to back-up your save file.
- if the game leaves GamePass before you finish it, then it is no big deal, and you can get it for cheap in a bundle or during Steam's sales (or Microsoft Store's sales ).
- if you finish the game before it leaves the service (which realistically often happens, without forcing yourself to play), then it is all good.
I do see it as demo service until it lapses next year, but the tecnical issues that are opooing up are not making it easy.You should see GamePass as a demo service (as you usually do). If the game leaves GamePass before you finish it, then it is no big deal, and you can get it for cheap in a bundle or during Steam's sales (or Microsoft Store's sales
Also, Im never gonna buy a game from MS Store due to, well, it being shit. I also don't wanna play 6 hours of a game, see it leave, buy it on Steam and having to replay those 6 hours again. My time is limited.
I know there's a b/s/t thread, but i have a sneaking feeling nobody looks @ it
GTA ONLINE IS GOOD.
Tanuki Sunset feels like it misses something to be great but at least it has good vibes and a rad raccoon
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Speaking of Gamepass, i just got invited to the xCloud preview here in Brazill, works surprisingly well on my phone with a cheap $10 bluetooth controller and than I decided to sideload the app to my Android TV, it works.... but it stutters like crazy on the library, while playing it's better but still far from perfect, when its works its pretty good.
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This stuff is so anecdotal though, and it’s enthusiast demographics (like PC gaming) that tend to prefer ownership (see vinyl and blu ray collectors), but it doesn’t reflect wider patterns. What someone like Linus does individually doesn’t really mean anything on this topic. Plus the success of Spotify and Netflix etc proves most people don’t really give a shit tbh, which I think is a little sad admittedly.
on the other hand I still find it funny when anyone brings up the ownership equation but is buying digitally.
It may be the norm of course on pc, and increasingly so now on consoles, but they’re all just licenses at the end of the day, none of it is owned anyway.
The ownership debate is one that is a dead man walking, as sad as that is, it’s a debate that was lost a long time ago.
Consuming music and movies are totally different from consuming video games.
I know you only buy a license when you buy digital, but it is still far better than renting.
I still can play the games I bought on Steam 9 years ago.
[UWSL]But it’s not at all.[/UWSL]
[UWSL]It’s really really not at all. [/UWSL][UWSL]they’re all consumer goods that compete for people’s time and money. The differences in interactivity and passive engagement are moot points when it comes to wider market spending habits.[/UWSL]
[UWSL]Gaming is no more special than other media, and subscriptions etc are inevitably fast coming to show that[/UWSL]
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[UWSL]Yeah it’s great that I and anyone can access old stuff from years past, but at least renting/subscriptions doesn’t pretend I actually own something, plus the value reflects that too. I find it hard to say that it is better in such a straightforward manner, it’s just different.[/UWSL]
[UWSL]It’s all up to the consumer on what they want at the end of the day, and it’s great to have options, but I’m getting more than a little tired repeatedly seeing online from so many folk that game pass, ps now etc are essentially “not the right way of doing things” when I can confidently say the same people use Netflix etc and don’t give a shit about the ownership question in that sector [/UWSL]
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There's a huge practical difference though in ownership and control between a digital PC copy and a streamed game.
Buying and streaming can coexist nicely. Like when I had a sound setup I used explore music on streaming and then get the vinyl of albums I liked.
it is little different with movies and games, since I don’t rewatch or replay. But still, I buy games on steam and play on game pass.
it is little different with movies and games, since I don’t rewatch or replay. But still, I buy games on steam and play on game pass.
I completely agree but my point was more on subscriptions vs buying a la carte rather than streaming
I absolutely agree. I use Spotify and also collect vinyl. Similarly I collect some Blu-ray and use Netflix.
They’re an additional value added option these days. But I think it is to be recognised that the wider mass market has definitely moved on to embracing subscriptions for music and video, (vinyl is bigger in revenue than cd now, plus the “dead” dvd still regularly outsells blu ray in sheer units, so it tells you a lot about the direction of travel)
I can see gaming going the same way in time, just maybe not on pc as again it leads towards a more enthusiast demographic
But at the very same time it’s those same enthusiast areas that seem to rail hard against subscriptions from my experience (not just gaming, blu ray collectors too in my experience), and IMO it’s akin to head in the sand and a lot of postulating about how others are “doing it wrong”. It’s very arrogant IMO
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I don't think that is a good argument.
Unless this hypothetical game has been delisted, I could:- play the game on day one 9 years ago with a subscription which cost 1 € for 3 months,
- purchase the same game nowadays with a deep discount, e.g. for 5 €, in order to play it again.
Let us imagine for a moment that Valve offers a subscription service, similar to Microsoft's GamePass except that it uses Steam's back-end. Most of the issues about GamePass would vanish. An argument would remain against the subscription model, and that may be the only one: some people feel a psychological burden and a urge to play, because the games could be removed from the subscription service (even though they are still available for purchase elsewhere). I can understand that some people will always be against renting their games because of what they see as a threat to their peace of mind.
These people should see subscription models as content-unlimited time-limited demos, which is pretty okay if the time limit is 6 months.
If I don't finish a game in 6 months, chance is that it would clog my backlog anyway. And then there is backlog anxiety for some.
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Now I need to finish what I'm currently playing so I can start Digimon
I am getting whiplash going from bdo's skinner box design to NMS. The sheer awe and beauty this game manages to inspire was really uplifting, and especially welcome after a crappy day. There's something beautiful to it all being procedurally-generated, in a way I can't quite articulate.
Space sims are good for the soul.
Space sims are good for the soul.
My reason for there being a big difference between consuming video games and movies/music is that games requires far more from the person than movies and music. Consuming music and movies/tv shows is super easy, one of them can also be done while doing other things (music), playing a games takes much more time (depending on the game of course), but also requires input from the person, more than just eyes and ears. You click play on the movie/TV show/music and you use your ear and/or eyes and that's it, pause whenever you want. Not with games. Some games don't even let you actual pause lol.
Games requires thinking, practicing, exploring, sometimes other people, some games are endless, some games takes really long time to go through and requires patience. Music, movies and TV shows does not require that, maybe exploring in sense of googling info about what you are watching or hearing to know more.
Games requires thinking, practicing, exploring, sometimes other people, some games are endless, some games takes really long time to go through and requires patience. Music, movies and TV shows does not require that, maybe exploring in sense of googling info about what you are watching or hearing to know more.
Gamepass is a funny service offering worse service than pirate bay but takes your money anyway.
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If this hypothetical service let you play games on Steam without having to rush due to expiring off the service, I'd think it was a great deal. Modding, no Windows crap, and play when I want, even taking long breaks? Sign me up. Nvidia's service probably comes the closest.Let us imagine for a moment that Valve offers a subscription service, similar to Microsoft's GamePass except that it uses Steam's back-end. Most of the issues about GamePass would vanish. An argument would remain against the subscription model, and that may be the only one: some people feel a psychological burden and a urge to play, because the games could be removed from the subscription service (even though they are still available for purchase elsewhere). I can understand that some people will always be against renting their games because of what they see as a threat to their peace of mind.
These people should see subscription models as content-unlimited time-limited demos, which is pretty okay if the time limit is 6 months.
If I don't finish a game in 6 months, chance is that it would clog my backlog anyway. And then there is backlog anxiety for some.
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