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I would say Symphonia first.
It's really old, so you will feel the difference if you start it later. The combat being on a strict 2D plane is pretty clunky, and it's slow.
On the other hand, it also has BY FAR the best level design of the 4 (arguably, the only one to have it) and a pretty nice story.
Vesperia is an evolution with better, more fluid combat but slighty worse everything else (some like the cast, even replaying it it left me pretty cold) outside of visuals. The style really holds up, and the world map is super cool. Story falls apart in the last act, but it's worth playing it.
Zestiria has actually good characters. But oh boy is it the very worse of the level design in the franchise, absolutely hideous progression systems (I think it's genuinely the worst in the genre - not only is it 100% RNG, but you need to be lucky to get drops combining together or you will not get any power boost from anything, even levelling up!), add awful pacing and only 2 chars at the time, locked long combos forcing you to use tons of attacks for almost nothing to reach the right part of the combo, as well as being just... ugly and flat? They really messed that one up.
Berseria is Zestiria but fixed. You can change your combos at will, progression is much more normal (if bland), 4 characters are back, but it still shitty level design and severe pacing issues. But on the other hand it has a nice story and good characters.
It's the best gameplay wise, and it's not bad on other fronts if you can forget the concept of dungeon and puzzle. And some awful designs.
Any of them aside from Zestiria.
Zestiria is physically painful to play. Between a dull story and needlessly complex systems that throw tutorials in your face for 20 hours and still dont make sense, I bought it at launch and still haven't managed to force myself to play through it.
I really strongly disagree with Zestiria. Some of the systems might be a bit too convoluted for their own good -- and admittedly I might be someone who enjoys some level of complexity for complexity's sake -- but I still find Zestiria's battle system to be easily one of the most strategic and interesting in the franchise.
Also, I think it's quite beautiful as far as Tales games go, and it has the 4 temples each of which is a more interesting dungeon than anything save post-game in Berseria or Vesperia IMHO.
Oh, and Symphonia is one of the worst Tales games I played overall (and I played and completed >80% of them). I think the reputation of that is founded almost entirely on nostalgia.
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One day I'll play the Tales of series. Probably.
To be fair, the battle system itself is probably the best part of the game and the reason I'll be able to stomach it until the end eventually, it just feels super stiff early on.
To be fair here, I don't think any of us represent the average customer. For the vast majority on Steam, it probably really is a wishlist.
If a game is still in development, I don't put them in my whistlist, I just follow them instead.
"Put our game in your whistlist now, coming out in 1-2 years!!"
I feel like these indie devs and publishers are getting it wrong. There's no merit for us in whistlisting unpurchaseable games.
Early access games is a different story since I have some of them in my whistlist those that I'm really looking forward the most.
"Put our game in your whistlist now, coming out in 1-2 years!!"
I feel like these indie devs and publishers are getting it wrong. There's no merit for us in whistlisting unpurchaseable games.
Early access games is a different story since I have some of them in my whistlist those that I'm really looking forward the most.
I don't think Symphonia is bad per se, honestly. Just very mediocre and long. The has almost no new ideas, the story beats are very typical and predictable, the writing is very boring, which earlier Tales games were actually better about, like Eternia or Destiny.
I agree that it's just nostalgia that keeps people talking about it.
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Toree 3D is short but you can repeat the levels to get better ratings.
All for less than the price of a ps5 game
They tried things, but I care far more about progression (else why even make an RPG eh?) and balance.
In Zestiria, it's way too likely that you will ignore gear entirely for a very long time because they don't complete your bingo card. And getting stuck with "worse" stuff because the bonuses outweighs anything you find for hours and hours is really, really broken.
And I don't know, I didn't find it very strategic. Having to really target weaknesses is a good idea, but as I said, having to easily spend 3/4 of your time using useless skills because they locked the needed ones to a specific combo chain... that feels real fake and add even more tediousness.
I can see that being beautiful as far as tales games go, yes. But then, the free camera Tales games are also absolutely hideous. Large expanses completely void of any props (let alone life), bad textures, barely any lighting effects, empty cities... and hardly saved by the bland artstyle of the franchise. But they're also low budget PS3 games, so that's understandable. Less so when good looking PS2 games are so far above...
And I'd say the temples of Zestiria are a good example of that, they are gigantic, empty, incredibly repetitive. Hell, You could compare screenshots of different trials and not know which is which because they're identical for the most part. But again, it's certainly a weak point in Berseria too, though they actually did give it more than one tileset.
However even in Vesperia, the weakest of all fixed camera Tales of, has an immense amount of variety and don't offer hours long dungeons with one texture to look at and 2 ennemies to fight.
And that's where Symphonia utterly shits on all the others, actual different dungeons. With puzzles and fairly unique mechanics. And exploration and things hidden, not unending copy/pasted rooms with RNG stuff that you won't care about.
But the combat is really, really old for obvious reasons.
That and the characters are early 2000's anime.
Same here as well, I have too many games in the backlog that I'm going through now. The radeon r9 nano just wasn't enough to drive many of them using Linux. The new 6700XT works wonders
Maybe wishlists arent the best metric for a game/dev to use in the first place.
Mine is a 160 game deep mess that I just pruned 4 games from because well, I don't need them/want them like I did once upon a time.
My singular purchase (for myself) during the sale removed one other from it. The Steam Demo Festivals generally see anywhere from 3-10 games added that may sit for a decade, so good luck trying to use me for solid data
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I have 1,200 games in my "Wishlist" so yeah, at this point it's just a big bucket of games for Steam to notify me of release or sales for.
Agreed, it's not really a bad game, especially for its time -- but it's still one of the worse (mainline) Tales games, since I'd argue that even the "bad" entries in the series are mostly just mediocre (and I'd also say even the best ones are not outstanding games, it's a very consistent series IMHO).
Another previous epic exclusive getting a Steam release date.
2nd of September, also releases on X-Box at the same time.
2nd of September, also releases on X-Box at the same time.
I ended up with Way of the Samurai 4 and Sekiro.
That race stuff was amazing for all the bullshittery around it. Team Corgi cheated!
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Yeah I mean you have a bunch of other stupid looking animals and then the internets second favorite dog next to a shiba whatever the fuck so it was like 95% of steam picked team corgi then went
(Just imagine it's a corgi)
I picked tortoise as well because I read a book about it saying he could beat any other animal in a raceTortoise for life yo
By the way, it won't probably ever happen but an Astro's Playroom port for PC would be great, I played it yesterday and it was tons of fun plus very endearing. Astro is a great little guy.
Majority of my purchases are for full priced games.Madjoki paying 80 € for a videogame?
Technically it's more like 0€, because using csgo profits
Or just activity feed not work working.
By the way, when you are in the middle of a game and someone sends a gift, does the game really minimize to show gift dialogue?
Bought some cheap games before the sale is over, removed some other ones and now my wishlist is only 137 games I feel so... small
8 hours in and while you can see it's age, Mass Effect 1 first hours are still so good at introducing you to the world. I will probably enjoy the LE a lot. Just have to keep blocking the ending from my mind.
And so far, I'm following that meme to letter: Trying to take different decisions in a paragon playthrough, but failing miserably. And the big one is getting closer and closer...
8 hours in and while you can see it's age, Mass Effect 1 first hours are still so good at introducing you to the world. I will probably enjoy the LE a lot. Just have to keep blocking the ending from my mind.
And so far, I'm following that meme to letter: Trying to take different decisions in a paragon playthrough, but failing miserably. And the big one is getting closer and closer...
Can I convince myself to finally let Kaiden survive? A cardboard is more fun than that guy.
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Holy momma, game looks ace! Didn’t know this was releasing until I seen that Leon Belmont picked it up
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In a last second decision before the steam sale ends, I have bought
looks good until Last Epoch is out of early access.
looks good until Last Epoch is out of early access.
Final pickup of the sale:
Listened to the Three Moves Ahead podcast during lunch, and the stories were so interesting that I broke my "must be 50% off" rule I had this sale.
Listened to the Three Moves Ahead podcast during lunch, and the stories were so interesting that I broke my "must be 50% off" rule I had this sale.
i remember playing this one in steam fest few months ago ... was super tight and fun
We just snagged build ID 6999999 on Steam.
Nice.
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Awesome to hear!i remember playing this one in steam fest few months ago ... was super tight and fun
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