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[ISee]

Just caught up on the news that Phoenix Point will also release on Xbox pass day one so its another 'just not on Steam' eggs exclusive.

I wonder what the actual contract that they signed with epic says? Does it just say 'cant release on Steam'? or was there a prior deal in place that epic couldn't buy them out of?

Exodus and Phoenix Point coming to Xbox Game Pass on day one was announced way before EGS became a thing. I'm repeating myself but either microsoft found some kind of loophole or PC Game Pass was always included in the original microsoft deal/plan and epic had to swallow it.
Phoenix Point was also supposed to come to GOG.com, but that version was canceled too when Epic send over that nice paycheck. So it wasn't just Steam with this game.

 

[Joe Spangle]

Exodus and Phoenix Point coming to Xbox Game Pass on day one was announced way before EGS became a thing. I'm repeating myself but either microsoft found some kind of loophole or PC Game Pass was always included in the original microsoft deal/plan and epic had to swallow it.
Phoenix Point was also supposed to come to GOG.com, but that version was canceled too when Epic send over that nice paycheck. So it wasn't just Steam with this game.

Ah ok. I see. I guess Microsoft does a bit more to 'lock in' upcoming games once they get announced for it.

Im just a bit gutted as I love the new XCOM games and Phoenix Point seemed right up my street.

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

Yeah, i was disappointed by Phoenix Point but after a few minutes i stopped caring and like most other EGSclusives i've forgotten about it and moved on as there's PLENTY of good games out there. I'll have a look when it leaves Epic Early Access and has a full release next year but i may not even buy it then due to other games i'm looking forward to.

Honestly, the only time i think of EGS is when someone mentions it, aside from that there's plenty of other stores that are actually relevant to my interests that i pay attention to.

 

[Alexandros]

Really noticing how TB isn't around anymore in times like these

Ain't that the truth. John was a massive loss and I really miss him. It's a shame no one else seems to have picked up the mantle.

 

[Joe Spangle]

Yeah, i was disappointed by Phoenix Point but after a few minutes i stopped caring and like most other EGSclusives i've forgotten about it and moved on as there's PLENTY of good games out there. I'll have a look when it leaves Epic Early Access and has a full release next year but i may not even buy it then due to other games i'm looking forward to.

Honestly, the only time i think of EGS is when someone mentions it, aside from that there's plenty of other stores that are actually relevant to my interests that i pay attention to.

Yeah i agree. As ive got older and my collection has got larger ive moved on from the 'day one' circus of gaming. I realised a while ago that there is no game that ive simply got to have right now and can wait and if it doesn't appear on a store that im happy to use then oh well.

Although if XCOM 3 went eggs i would certainly have a few harsh words and require a stiff gin n tonic to calm down.

 

[gabbo]

Patrons of the arts don't get a return on their investment, Epic still make some money on the 'sclusive deals as I understand their sales model

Was reading through some articles about the EGS, and I saw this little section on RPS that I agree with:



If you're going to set yourself up as a patron and savior to the artists, actually do it you big babies.

 

[TioChuck]

Just saw this:


This guys have no clue about whats going on.

 

[Rogue Agent]

Damiani's response seemed promising but it was brief and not much. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I wish these people just did their research. There are great sources out there. You've got forums, you've got twitter threads like the one lash did, you've got that Google Doc that has lots of info. Nobody can feign ignorance.

Anyone who trots out the stupid "it's just another launcher" is basically just shit-posting, regardless of their intent. It's so embarrassing that a nobody like me who doesn't know much about these kinds of things has more knowledge than these people.

 

[Rogue Agent]

I'm not a patron anymore, but that's one of the reasons I stopped funding media outlets like EZA/KFG. They're being given money to do things "the right way" and they still don't either inform themselves or stick to things they understand. It's hugely frustrating, and felt like a waste of my money.

That's completely understandable. I would only be a patron if I really appreciated how an individual/group did things and their entertainment was valuable to me in a big way and they kept growing positively. As much as I lenjoy EZA despite their glaring issues, I'm not a patron. Their whole attitude (well most of them) on this Epic issue and lack of research makes it even less likely for me to be a patron in the future.

 

[SRossi]

I'm not a patron anymore, but that's one of the reasons I stopped funding media outlets like EZA/KFG. They're being given money to do things "the right way" and they still don't either inform themselves or stick to things they understand. It's hugely frustrating, and felt like a waste of my money.

Side-note, I like that Tim admitted today that their account creation system was so insecure, it allowed for the creation of thousands of fake accounts that they had to remove (supposedly remove):

sooo timmy is posting on r/fuckepic ?
I can't even. that guy.

 

[TioChuck]

sooo timmy is posting on r/fuckepic ?
I can't even. that guy.

He posts there alot

 

[Nabs]

Be sure to check out Chet's twitter acct today. He was going in on idiots downplaying the value provided by Steam.

 

[Alexandros]

Be sure to check out Chet's twitter acct today. He was going in on idiots downplaying the value provided by Steam.

I especially enjoyed this line regarding games journalists:

But you know what you are? You're the uninformed sh*t poster not taking them time to understand and cover the issue

Which is exactly right.

 

[Wok]

Like I'm just a loser on the internet, but you're a businessman. Don't you have something...to do?

First, we have no proof that he is writing the message. As for all the famous people swimming in money, there is a team managing the social media accounts. In this case, the message could have been written by support, there is no hint that it is Tim's writing.

Second, it might be important for Epic to counter the fake-news narrative that the "free games" are one-time-install pirated games:

That being said, I do not know what is the best course of action for Epic. You have a bunch of people upvoting anti-Epic posts, downvoting posts seen as pro-Epic, irrespectively of their truth or quality. Exposing the narrative on the same page ensures that people who access the page after a Google search can have the info, even though it is downvoted to hell. It might be the smartest way to deal with it.

 

[beep boop]

Go Chet. Finally someone calling out the lousy one note coverage of the subject by completely disconnected writers and hosts.

 

[ISee]

I'm sorry, but who is Chet?

 

[FunnyJay]

I'm sorry, but who is Chet?

Chet Faliszek, former Valve employee. One of the writers of Half-Life and Portal.

 

[lashman]

I'm sorry, but who is Chet?

Chet Faliszek - Wikipedia

 

[Alextended]

Took screens of all Chet's relevant tweets if anyone wants it. Or you can just link to the poll that kicked it off rather than all of them individually. Or tell people to scroll down in his profile until they see that poll then read it all in reverse order. Whatever works I guess.

Sorry for the Greek, screenshots don't adjust to your local language

 

[lashman]

Sorry for the Greek, screenshots don't adjust to your local language

it's all Greek to me

 

[Phoenix RISING]

I'm sorry, but who is Chet?

Don't want to leave you hanging. I didn't know who this was, either. And I actually follow him, LOL!!!

 

[Firewithin]

Lol pc gamer. I'm sure those replies were what they hoped

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Lol pc gamer. I'm sure those replies were what they hoped

They knew what they were doing.

 

[Alextended]

Is that an ancient article re-published? It talks about how Fallout 76 "will" require the Bethesda launcher and only be available there and shit? Isn't that already out, a failure, and confirmed for Steam alongside all their upcoming games? And how is it better than the Windows Store, both were hated about the same but Windows Store surely has more games at least. I'd put EGS under both. How is Steam's "astonishing growth" a reason to go elsewhere (among other bs)?

 

[Nahkapukki]

I think media deserves a flogging for not really following gamers on this. It's the market that decides if something is viable and not the push from the media downwards which in this case seems to be the way they are trying to make EGS a thing.

I mean of course gamers could be wrong on this (But it's very unlikely) and EGS will make prices lower (Never going to happen) after they get a bigger marketshare by shoehorning themselves in by hammering people with sacks of money but the thing is GOG got themselves a decent marketshare by actually PROVIDING things that aren't available on Steam by their own accord and none of the gamers had issues with them unsurprisingly.

I think media doesn't get that GOG and Steam did good things to PC gaming while EGS is kneecapping it. It really annoys me that the people who are supposed to be looking out for us don't care about the general consensus of their customers but rather push an overbearing narrative that disregards any opinion and isn't even really factual in their claims.
The whole thing just makes me think they are kneejerking over the idea that gamers might be right in something and they have to push back 'cause it's somehow an anti-GG stance.

 

[ISee]

Lol pc gamer. I'm sure those replies were what they hoped

Uplay - Number 8

• Cloud Save
• Achievements
• 20% discounts for costumers on new titles (not U.S.)
• shopping cart
• Friend List
• Chat & Voice Chat
• works just fine

According to the article it's boring because you can earn achievements aka uplay points. Has some good games, but those games don't need to be bound to a specific launcher!

Unless you love earning Uplay points, for some reason, UPlay is just a boring fact of life if you want to play a Ubisoft game. A shame Siege and Assassin's Creed: Odyssey are as good as they are.

EGS - Number 4

- Has barely any kind of basic features

Is a pain to use, according to the article. But it has headroom to improve and it forces you to use a specific launcher to play certain, good, games. Therefore EGS is good. It's also elegant, a promise of things to come.

Again, it’s a work in progress. The store itself is a real pain to use...

The owned library is simply, elegantly presented as a simple alphabetical list of games

Of course, if you want to play certain exclusives like The Outer Worlds or Borderlands 3 at launch, you’ll need to get the launcher regardless of whether you want it or not.

It’ll almost certainly improve, though.’

/facepalm



Bonus:

Xbox BETA - Number 3

- Is a re-skinned windows store, more or less.

It’s heads and shoulders above the Microsoft Store, obviously, which by the way is still a going concern if you fetishise lousy software.

 

[C-Dub]

They go to great lengths to make excuses for EGS. Work in progress my arse, it’s working exactly as Epic wants it to. Their unsustainably low cut ensures its lack of features.

 

[Hektor]

Before they silently delay these for the third time, these are all the things that are targeted for a july release on the EGS:

• Cloud Saves
• Storepage videos
• Storepage redesign
• Play time tracking
• Humble Bundle Integration

+

• Improvements to offline mode
• Improved patch size

I'm betting no mroe than one of the five features will ship.

 

[Nabs]

As every day passes, Epic Gamer becomes more of a reality. I honestly don't know how they gave EGS #4. Uplay got fucked, big time. I wonder if they ever tried downloading something off EGS.

 

[m_dorian]

We need to understand that there is a purpose behind all of these bait articles of this aforementioned medium.
And we often bite.

Let's purge from our memory them and any other gaming medium that does not trouble themselves educating about the issue.

Ignore them.

 

[TioChuck]

It´s just another icon.


I don´t usually hate people, but man, it´s hard not to hate this guy.

 

[Knurek]

It´s just another icon.


I don´t usually hate people, but man, it´s hard not to hate this guy.

Excuse me?

 

[Nahkapukki]

Excuse me?

"I'm not ignorant, you are ignorant"

-Tim Sweeney on anything.

 

[Ge0force]

Lol pc gamer. I'm sure those replies were what they hoped

Yeah, but ranking EGS higher than Origin and uPlay, pc gamer is proving again that they are untrustworthy for anything related to Epic.

 

[Arsene]

Excuse me?

So Tim and his team are just buying up popular games without knowing anything about them at this point right?

 

[gabbo]

So Tim and his team are just buying up popular games without knowing anything about them at this point right?

He might have thought Shenmue was a Dreamcast game until he bought 'sclusivity to 3.
Of course he could just be stupid. I'm leaning towards the latter

 

[Wok]

This is why I’m inclined to believe that it’s him on that Reddit account. He is 100% trawling the internet with his stupidity in a way that an actually community manager would never do.

It depends on the Reddit posts. The one I quoted was typically a support message. There was nothing similar to the tweets.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

Sad to see someone with so much potential, the guy who broke the biggest story on industry crunch, would turn around and argue in favor of EXCLUSIVES being good for PC gaming.

 

[Hektor]

 

[Knurek]

Is this the @KazHiraiCEO alt account?

 

[gabbo]

Why are features separate from wages? Is Epic just buying turning products and lumping them into the store code? Shouldn't that just be part of wages?

Edit
Oh. It got me. Well maybe that is how he budgets things anyway :B and EGS is just going to be the front end on top of a lot of licenced turnkey apps

 

[NarohDethan]

Okay who of you guys did this

 

[beep boop]

Could've taken Tim S. Weeney or Tim's Weeney. Or perhaps Wim Steemey. Missed opportunity.

 

[Alextended]

How does one rank "just different icons to click" anyway, surely doing that means there's more to this than they let on previously >_>

 

[Ascheroth]

How does one rank "just different icons to click" anyway, surely doing that means there's more to this than they let on previously >_>

Because disingenious clickbait with an agenda.
Best not to waste braincells and time on it, they don't deserve attention.

 

[teezzy]

Wait... should I be buying Shenmue on Steam before Sweeny snatches it up?

Fuck you, Tim.

 

[gabbo]

In fairness, you see people bitching about poor icon design for Switch home icons, so icons do matter!

Can't complain about more icons if you only have one.

 

[TioChuck]

I´m on a friendly debate with Tim Sweeney on Twitter, and he is blaming everything on Valve for some reason.

 

[Nahkapukki]

Does Steam prevent crossplay in some way or is he just throwing a name out there without any particular backing?

 

[Arsene]

Does Steam prevent crossplay in some way or is he just throwing a name out there without any particular backing?

The latter per usual. Activision used Windows Stores and Steam's built in servers instead of making their own crossplatform ones because it was cheaper and easier. But Tim continues to show his ass on topics he knows nothing about.

Steam's new Online API is fully crossplay and compatible with other storefronts if developers want to. This was a big selling point in their GDC conference.