|OT| Elden Ring - Foul Tarnished, in search of the Elden Ring

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If I want to savescum bunch of endings without ng+, when should I make a back up save? How many endings are there actually? I could google it of course, but I'd rather ask here and not risk google spoiling stuff.
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What curiousBystander said is correct, but there's one other thing to know. There is an ending that you can get permanently locked out (though you're not likely to do it by accident). It works like this:
  • Normally, you can pick any ending you like from the final room, except one, call it ending S for special
  • If you trigger event A, you can ONLY pick ending S from the final room
  • After triggering event A, you can then trigger event B, which will revert things to normal (can pick any ending except S)
  • If you trigger event B, you cannot go back, you're permanently locked out of ending S
So basically, you should avoid triggering both of these events before you're ready to savescum endings. It's easiest if you just don't trigger event A until you've scummed all the other endings. So if you want to know how to do that, here's some nested spoilers to help you know the trigger for event A:

Behind that boss's chamber is a hidden area. At the bottom of it is a door. Opening that door will trigger event A and lock you into ending S.
 

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What curiousBystander said is correct, but there's one other thing to know. There is an ending that you can get permanently locked out (though you're not likely to do it by accident). It works like this:
  • Normally, you can pick any ending you like from the final room, except one, call it ending S for special
  • If you trigger event A, you can ONLY pick ending S from the final room
  • After triggering event A, you can then trigger event B, which will revert things to normal (can pick any ending except S)
  • If you trigger event B, you cannot go back, you're permanently locked out of ending S
So basically, you should avoid triggering both of these events before you're ready to savescum endings. It's easiest if you just don't trigger event A until you've scummed all the other endings. So if you want to know how to do that, here's some nested spoilers to help you know the trigger for event A:

Behind that boss's chamber is a hidden area. At the bottom of it is a door. Opening that door will trigger event A and lock you into ending S.
Cheers for the detailed explanation.
This is actually specifically what I was wondering about, the event A. Googled something different (about the eyes) and stumbled upon that ending information as you might expect. So good to know that I don't need to have an earlier save for that specific thing, they can all be done after the last boss.

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I beat Radahn! :dmcblob:

Used that Bird fall off cliff grind to level up to 85 ish and then pew pew'd him with magic whilst all the summons sacrificed themselves for my greater glory. Feels good. I'd been stuck on him for a while, dont get much time to play these days so each session was turning into 'try to kill him a few times, get splatted, go wander aimlessly about not really doing anything'.
 

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Got to the last area, probably. [snip]
Now, nearly a month later I think I'm actually pretty close to the end. For real this time. :grinning-face-with-smiling-eyes: I have a bonfire at the Ashen Capital Queen's Bedroom, and I assume the next boss up the stairs is the last boss.
However, I actually have a couple of caves/tombs left at least, and I also want to clean up that snowfield I kind of ran through last time. And get back to Malenia and try to kick her ass this time. I'm going to do those before I go up those stairs. And after that I'll probably look at a guide for what I can still do in NG if anything. I know I'm missing some talismans, since I got +1 versions of some but not the base version. So maybe there are some caves/tombs I haven't even been to yet. I also know I've missed some character quests entirely, and at least one was halted midstream (Alexander) because I missed the first step, so I'll do those in NG+.
 

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Now, nearly a month later I think I'm actually pretty close to the end. For real this time. :grinning-face-with-smiling-eyes: I have a bonfire at the Ashen Capital Queen's Bedroom, and I assume the next boss up the stairs is the last boss.
However, I actually have a couple of caves/tombs left at least, and I also want to clean up that snowfield I kind of ran through last time. And get back to Malenia and try to kick her ass this time. I'm going to do those before I go up those stairs. And after that I'll probably look at a guide for what I can still do in NG if anything. I know I'm missing some talismans, since I got +1 versions of some but not the base version. So maybe there are some caves/tombs I haven't even been to yet. I also know I've missed some character quests entirely, and at least one was halted midstream (Alexander) because I missed the first step, so I'll do those in NG+.
The final boss gate is different from all the others. That specific one up the stairs isn't different.
 

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A patch is up.

*Fixed a bug that prevented an event with the NPC "Alexander, Warrior Jar" from progressing under certain circumstances.

Maybe I can actually continue the Alexander quest now before going to ng+. :thinking-face:

But still no CA or vignette toggle. :minos_sad:



Also I played a bit yesterday, cleaned up some of the snowfield, and found another location too. This game just keeps going huh.
 

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Also I played a bit yesterday, cleaned up some of the snowfield, and found another location too. This game just keeps going huh.
It is really big specially in a first playthrough. There were places that I found after beating the game.
 
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Items unlocked for purchase by offering Bell Bearings to the NPC “Twin Maiden Husk” will now carry over to NG+ play. This affects all items unlocked by offering the following items to the NPC “Twin Maiden Husk”: Bone Peddler's Bell Bearing/Meat Peddler's Bell Bearing/Medicine Peddler's Bell Bearing/Gravity Stone Peddler's Bell Bearing/Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing/Somberstone Miner's Bell Bearing/Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing/Ghost-Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing.
The way it should have been from the bloody beginning.

Fixed a bug which caused the light wave of the "Moonlight Greatsword" skill sometimes not aim at the locked-on target.
Amen ! The MLGS was severely crippled by that.

Fixed a bug that prevented some graces from being able to be touched when approached under certain circumstances.
Not sure what this refers to, but I saw a lot of graces that were some distance away from the prompt to interact with them.
 

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Also a very good game in my opinion, enjoyed it a lot – have fun :)
Thanks, and I agree. :)
I have my minor gripes with it (save system, lack of subtlety in some aspects of the writing -- everybody seems to either ostensibly hate or openly worship Aloy, with little middle ground, despite her bouts of blatant brattiness. Because of that, she has few opportunities for any character development from interactions with people), but the scenery is absolutely gorgeous, which is the main point of attraction for me.

I find the combat reasonably challenging and fun (in Normal), so that the flaws in the save system are not too much of a problem, and the main story (in which I'm not very far, I think; I just climbed the big tower and had a Zoom meeting with Mysterious Scholar. I heavily prioritise side quests and exploration) is intriguing enough.

And in 30 years, they may even brainstorm the idea of having the amount of souls in the title, like "Golden Rune [1200]" instead of more-or-less arbitrary numbers. But the world is not yet ready for such convenience.

Well, actually, after graphing it and performing a regression, the numbers do seem to follow an exponential law, roughly given by
: runes( Golden Rune[n] ) = 489.764 e^(0.229294 n)
if including Numen, Hero, and Lord's runes as Golden Runes [14+]. So it's not "arbitrary".

Still not the most user-friendly, I should say.

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Having played this religiously since launch day, I’ve finally made it to the Elden Beast - and came super close a couple times to beating it. But damn if that overgrown Amoeba kept getting the best of me.

Any tips for this thing? I read this morning that it’s immune to everything, so it’s all about physical damage.
 
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Having played this religiously since launch day, I’ve finally made it to the Elden Beast - and came super close a couple times to beating it. But damn if that overgrown Amoeba kept getting the best of me.

Any tips for this thing? I read this morning that it’s immune to everything, so it’s all about physical damage.
yes, i had troubles with it too but bascially follow this and you'll have a much easier time


in written short form:

use holy damage mitigation
use the mimic (the more upgraded, the better, of course)
use the https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Blasphemous+Blade against Radagon (the weapon art hits him hard and heals you)
then against the Elden Beast, use the https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Fallingstar+Beast+Jaw (again, use the weapon art: has great range, can stun the Beast, and otherwise just deals great damage on it)
to avoid his attacks and to sprint after him, I used Bloodhound Step
 

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yes, i had troubles with it too but bascially follow this and you'll have a much easier time


in written short form:

use holy damage mitigation
use the mimic (the more upgraded, the better, of course)
use the https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Blasphemous+Blade against Radagon (the weapon art hits him hard and heals you)
then against the Elden Beast, use the https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Fallingstar+Beast+Jaw (again, use the weapon art: has great range, can stun the Beast, and otherwise just deals great damage on it)
to avoid his attacks and to sprint after him, I used Bloodhound Step
Thank you for the tips. I'll have to respec (been playing with an Intelligence/Dex build), but I've got plenty of Larval Tears.
 
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Having played this religiously since launch day, I’ve finally made it to the Elden Beast - and came super close a couple times to beating it. But damn if that overgrown Amoeba kept getting the best of me.

Any tips for this thing? I read this morning that it’s immune to everything, so it’s all about physical damage.
What kind of build are you using? When I fought it with my STR/FTH build I didn't use any incantation so I just focused on avoiding it's attacks and hitting it when the openings happened.
 
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Thank you for the tips. I'll have to respec (been playing with an Intelligence/Dex build), but I've got plenty of Larval Tears.
True – I had to respec as well for that build/method. As always, your mileage may wary, but using this method, I got it on second try. Good luck :)

What kind of build are you using? When I fought it with my STR/FTH build I didn't use any incantation so I just focused on avoiding it's attacks and hitting it when the openings happened.
Thats also always an option of course :) Im usually too impatient to play like this and get punched in the face a lot as a result ;)
 
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True – I had to respec as well for that build/method. As always, your mileage may wary, but using this method, I got it on second try. Good luck :)



Thats also always an option of course :) Im usually too impatient to play like this and get punched in the face a lot as a result ;)
I think I had more issues dealing with the first phase than against the Elden Beast, I had issues understanding some of it's patterns o_O
 
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I think I had more issues dealing with the first phase than against the Elden Beast, I had issues understanding some of it's patterns o_O
I thought both phases are pretty intense and the whole encounter felt like a difficulty spike especially compared to the bosses that come before (except Malenia, of course)...

but yeah, Radagon has these slow windup times and then super-fast attacks, I could not get into that rhythm without relying on the mimic tanking for me. And with the Blasphemous Blade, we both got enough healing while dealing enough damage to get him down quickly enough so that when the Beast comes up, I'd still have the mimic alive and flasks to spare.
 

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Finally beat the game last night. I removed some ashes of war off my katanas, and switched to my most powerful physical damage versions. Also went back and collected a few whatchamacallits I missed to upgrade how much my flask recharges health.
That thing was still a prick as it’s often moving away. Oh, and used Bloodhound Step which was handy.

Anyways after seeing what happens in New Game Plus and losing access to all those Smithing Stones, I’m now going back and hitting my favorite rune farm path. Each run allows me to buy Somber Stones 1-9 and upgrade a weapon. So I’m upgrading everything I’m interested in before starting new game plus.

I’m also missing one Legendary weapon and still have Miquella’s needle to use.

This week I’ll be playing on the Deck. So glad I don’t have to leave it all behind during vacation lol
 

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Finally beat the game last night. I removed some ashes of war off my katanas, and switched to my most powerful physical damage versions. Also went back and collected a few whatchamacallits I missed to upgrade how much my flask recharges health.
That thing was still a prick as it’s often moving away. Oh, and used Bloodhound Step which was handy.

Anyways after seeing what happens in New Game Plus and losing access to all those Smithing Stones, I’m now going back and hitting my favorite rune farm path. Each run allows me to buy Somber Stones 1-9 and upgrade a weapon. So I’m upgrading everything I’m interested in before starting new game plus.
The latest patch changed that, you'll keep access to the smithing stones in NG+
(See a few postings above)

Also, congratulations!
 
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The latest patch changed that, you'll keep access to the smithing stones in NG+
(See a few postings above)

Also, congratulations!
Nice, thank you for the head’s up!

Gotta say I’m just over 200hrs and I’m still wanting to play more, and try different builds. It’s been years since I’ve been this into a game!
 

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And done. 200 hours or so. Well, I may still actually poke around a bit in NG+ to see if any of the NPC quests I missed are worthwhile and doable without going too to deep into it again. If not, I'll just check the wiki or youtube for any dialogue or whatever.
For the achievements I ended up missing that one dragon at the eye of the storm, and the Erdtree's Favor +2 talisman, so I ended up being fairly thorough just by playing the game normally. At the end I checked the wiki for any NPC quests I could still finish and completed those that way.

At the end I was still rolling with the Carian Soldier set. Just didn't find anything else that I really liked the look of in the end. Which bums me out a bit to be honest. Will probably check the wiki for armor sets too in case I missed any.

I did enjoy the game overall a lot but I often felt that it doesn't reward you for exploration that much. I mean, yes, it does. With a rare flower that I have 100 of already, or some smithing stones. Rewards that felt worthwhile were few and far between. One might argue that the exploration in itself is the reward, and I agree, to some extent. But every time I picked loot from a body that was like 3 flowers while there's also 3 of the same flower right there, or around the corner, it just felt like I was wasting my time exploring. Same with most chests. Even the highest tier smithing material doesn't feel "chest worthy", so to speak.
 

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Loooool just now did I read that you can upgrade ones summon! My summon has kept up quite well considering Im like 130 hours in haha.

So what should I do with the remembrances that one gets after defeating bosses? Ive duplicated some of them. But never used them because I don't really know what they do.
 
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Loooool just now did I read that you can upgrade ones summon! My summon has kept up quite well considering Im like 130 hours in haha.

So what should I do with the remembrances that one gets after defeating bosses? Ive duplicated some of them. But never used them because I don't really know what they do.
You can exchange the remembrances with Enia (the old lady inside the Two Fingers room) and get weapons, spells or ashes of war.
 

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Yeah, Rememberances can get you boss specific weapons, spells and such. Personally didn't find any of them super useful or fitting to my style of play, except Maliketh's Black Blade.

Also yeah, definitely upgrade your spirit summons. The Black Knife Tiche and Mimic Tear in particular are quite powerful.
 

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I've made some pretty good progress in the last few sessions. Been resolving some NPC questlines purely by stumbling around and happening upon the right circumstances. I've over levelled thanks to that kill the bird glitch so am enjoying it a bit more as the areas im at and boss fights aren't so much of a struggle.

Top game this. So much to do, so many ways to attack things. Ive collected so many weapons its ridiculous .