How so? You can't buy chick fil a food elsewhere, so I don't see how the games going to other stores and being bought there is a 1 to 1
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I, too, understand why smaller devs get the EGS money and i can live with it, and maybe buy their game if it is good and on sale on other stores.
But when i am judging if i buy a game, or a product, i am always asking myself if i am giving my money to assholes.
And then, do as needed.
But when i am judging if i buy a game, or a product, i am always asking myself if i am giving my money to assholes.
And then, do as needed.
I have said several times I dont blame indies that choose finantial safety over risk as they have already made a ton of risks to make the game. My problem is if they lie to my face or treat me like a baby.
You know, if Timmy starts publicly and consistently complaining to the media about Sony, MS, Nintendo, Google and Apple (and not just Steam) then at least he could claim consistency.
I could almost respect that.
He won't though. Because he's a coward.
Timmy only complained about Microsoft and Steam because he wanted to sell you an alternative. At least with UWP he kinda had a poin about the hassle of a closed platform.
I don't even know what he is doing calling Google Play illegal. He just wants to be on every storefront for free, the greedy asshole.
I don't even know what he is doing calling Google Play illegal. He just wants to be on every storefront for free, the greedy asshole.
Another EGS exclusive from BigBen:
Seems like they are just puking out games made in a few weeks on EGS. I think they were also behind Bee Simulator and that Paranoia game?
Seems like they are just puking out games made in a few weeks on EGS. I think they were also behind Bee Simulator and that Paranoia game?
finally some exclusives, i was missing them
i wonder how many of those games that will have demos on steam will end up being egsclusive ... probably like a halfI will watch the EGS Sizzle Reel on Steam while playing Skatebird Demo and trying to win a Velve Index
I think that my personal stance on exclusivity and walled gardens may be the most hardline on this forum since I don't buy anything that isn't released on PC, I have never bought any consoles and I certainly won't buy any games that went EGS exclusive unless I find them in a bundle way down the line for peanuts. That's my personal choice and I don't expect anyone else to do the same. I believe that any amount of support that people can give to the fight against Epic is very welcome. As long as people give as little money to Epic as possible, ideally none, I am happy.
wait you can win a valve index?I will watch the EGS Sizzle Reel on Steam while playing Skatebird Demo and trying to win a Velve Index
What? You think developers would take Epic's money and still use Steam to promote their games? Surely they wouldn't do that....i wonder how many of those games that will have demos on steam will end up being egsclusive ... probably like a half
/sSo... a little over 30 hours to see how much Epic is going to double down on the second year.
They could at least do what MS/Sony does and splash a big "EXCLUSIVE" at the begining of the trailers so we don't have to keep looking for logos at the end after finding something interesting.
If you watch on Steam, you can win free games and a chance to win a Valve index.
As far as I'm concerned, the problem isn't so much Epic as the introduction of Exclusivity into the PC world, which remains the largest open platform. I think the best way to ensure this practice disappears is to make it financially ruinous and a brand-ruining decision. The stigma should last well after the expiration of the exclusivity period.
Having good Steam sales also carries a good message as you outlined in your previous post a page ago - EGS may represent a huge loss in mindshare (in the world of games, whatever you had a year ago has long since stopped being new today) and potential lifetime sales - but I don't believe it's as effective at combating Exclusivity as a business practice as what I described above.
I really hope devs are smart and don't try to rile people up like the Ooblets devs. Take your money and be happy. Sheesh. I'm not entitled to your game like you're not entitled to my money. Easy.
Hey at least you can use your money for something more important like climate change
As for to buy or not a game after the exclusive period ends, there is no right decision.
If you don't buy it just solidifies the Pub/Dev decision to seek more exclusive deals, but at least it shows to people like Timmy that they product isn't worth the moneyhat.
If you buy it just shows Pubs/Devs that they can get away with locking they product for a period of time, but at least it also shows Pubs/Devs that people will wait for the game on they prefered plataform and maybe a delay on those people money is not that good.
The spectrum of Pubs/Devs who took the deal is so large, expending for a one person dev taem to fucking Ubisoft, that there is no one right awnser here, just do what is best for you.
For me I can safely ignore all the eggsclusives because I have so little time to play now days, and so much good shit are been releasing lately that the EGS games is just a crossed name on my list of whats next.
If you don't buy it just solidifies the Pub/Dev decision to seek more exclusive deals, but at least it shows to people like Timmy that they product isn't worth the moneyhat.
If you buy it just shows Pubs/Devs that they can get away with locking they product for a period of time, but at least it also shows Pubs/Devs that people will wait for the game on they prefered plataform and maybe a delay on those people money is not that good.
The spectrum of Pubs/Devs who took the deal is so large, expending for a one person dev taem to fucking Ubisoft, that there is no one right awnser here, just do what is best for you.
For me I can safely ignore all the eggsclusives because I have so little time to play now days, and so much good shit are been releasing lately that the EGS games is just a crossed name on my list of whats next.
Yeah, it's up to each individual and noone should be attacked, harassed or dogpiled for buying an EGS exclusive when it arrives on Steam.
Theres a Fortnite announcement at TGA so makes sense
I feel like you guys overthink this buying issue a tad. A game flopping on EGS and being successfull on Steam ultimately means Epic burned money and a year of people's time for fucking nothing, and that isn't something they can keep doing no matter how big the Fortnite warchest is, they aren't insane.
At the end of the day, full boycott, sale or day 1 on Steam are the same result for Epic: they get jack shit, be it money or market/mindshare. And while I'm sure some publishers might think they'd get to have their cake and eat it by going exclusive into a success on Steam, Epic isn't some benevolent company that will just keep handing out exclusive deals to known duds, no matter how much they push their "savior of game devs" image, nor are they guaranteed a success on Steam - see Ashen.
At the end of the day, full boycott, sale or day 1 on Steam are the same result for Epic: they get jack shit, be it money or market/mindshare. And while I'm sure some publishers might think they'd get to have their cake and eat it by going exclusive into a success on Steam, Epic isn't some benevolent company that will just keep handing out exclusive deals to known duds, no matter how much they push their "savior of game devs" image, nor are they guaranteed a success on Steam - see Ashen.
I'm kind of disappointed to see another wave of EGS exclusives incoming. I was hoping Epic would stop making deals after a year, but I guess they are planning to keep doing it for at least another year.
The fact that Epic keeps doing it must also mean they consider this strategy a success, which actually makes me sad.
The fact that Epic keeps doing it must also mean they consider this strategy a success, which actually makes me sad.
What exactly does this mean?
Sadly also WRC8, which seems to be excellent. But anyway, publishers heavily supporting Epic's exclusivity strategy will be on my ignore list for a long time (BigBen, Annapurna and Deep Silver so far).
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Whenever talking about any issue it is really worth remembering that there are a lot of people discussing it. Just like the complaints about some people demanding HL:A on PSVR while also mocking PC Port Begging, those are (mostly) different people. There are people here hard-lining never buying a game that was once EGS exclusive, there are some here that don't care, and plenty in the middle. It's also possible for people to change their minds, of course.
The actual hypocrites are typically a minority and very rarely can be reasoned with anyway, on any issue, much less online in a semi-anonymous forum thread.
The actual hypocrites are typically a minority and very rarely can be reasoned with anyway, on any issue, much less online in a semi-anonymous forum thread.
It's called "fuck you money", and Epic has a lot of it. Don't stress too hard on it. It's honestly not worth it.
Thinking about all the games that went exclusive to EGS made me realize that I don't need to buy every game that I have the slight interest.
Chick fil a = desirable games on steam
Chick fil a does some dumb social shit = desirable games go on egs
Chick fil a's actions put off people strongly but same people still like their food
Chik fil a changes their stance and people breath sigh of relief that they can go to chick fil a with a clear conscience= desirable games finally release on steam after egglscoosivity
Guess it sounded better in my head :v
Chick fil a does some dumb social shit = desirable games go on egs
Chick fil a's actions put off people strongly but same people still like their food
Chik fil a changes their stance and people breath sigh of relief that they can go to chick fil a with a clear conscience= desirable games finally release on steam after egglscoosivity
Guess it sounded better in my head :v
Ok, I just replaced CFA with "desirable games on Steam" and it made sense, lol.
I guess the difference is, I actually stopped buying EGS games, and have yet to purchase a formally-EGS game from Steam.
I never stopped going to CFA, lol.
On another note, Hades is reviewing well.
And apparently, you'll get Pyre for free by purchasing Hades? That's a good incentive.
Yeah, that lets me know that their marketing team are at least thinking things through.
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Well Ashen seems to have completely bombed at its current price, maybe it will pick up during sales periods. Hades I'm still unsure of, there are currently 2,900 players in game which sounds ok but it's still lower than Pyre's peak which considered a failure. It's early access though so who knows.
I'm hearing a lot more buzz and interest in Hades than Ashen but i think that's because SuperGiant are an established team with a solid catalogue behind them.
Maybe Ashen has legs once word of mouth gets around but i think most people who wanted a Souls-A-Like looked into it when it launched in EA on EGS.
Maybe Ashen has legs once word of mouth gets around but i think most people who wanted a Souls-A-Like looked into it when it launched in EA on EGS.
Calling EGS exclusivity EA is kind of funny ^^
Small TGA sale on EGS. Blands 3 and What the Golf went on sale quicker than I thought. Can't be doing that well. Will wait on Steam for them anyways.
It's something I guess. At least you can watch the show on EGS.
Oh, Oops.
So over the course of one year, what has Epic done to improve the user experience?
They brought cloud saves but the implementation seems scattershot. Same for pre-loads. Shifted the layout of the store a tad. And... That's it? Maybe they're holding off on big news until the very end of the year, but I doubt it.
Things Galy talked about in the podcast last year but are still missing: achievements, user profiles, customer reviews, bandwidth management, launching non-EGS games,
Other basic stuff missing: wishlists, shopping cart, family sharing, gifting, screenshot shortcut, library management, space-efficient UI.
They brought cloud saves but the implementation seems scattershot. Same for pre-loads. Shifted the layout of the store a tad. And... That's it? Maybe they're holding off on big news until the very end of the year, but I doubt it.
Things Galy talked about in the podcast last year but are still missing: achievements, user profiles, customer reviews, bandwidth management, launching non-EGS games,
Other basic stuff missing: wishlists, shopping cart, family sharing, gifting, screenshot shortcut, library management, space-efficient UI.
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They actually have a store instead of a single page with all the games, and it only took 10 months for that.
Epic's exclusivity push leads to ugliness
When companies are engaged in vigorous competition, consumers benefit. That's a pretty basic concept that usually goes …
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tl;dr hyper toxic steam fanboy.
Not as bad as I thought it'd be given the title and past GI coverage. At the very least the author recognizes the PR fuckups. Progress!Epic's exclusivity push leads to ugliness
When companies are engaged in vigorous competition, consumers benefit. That's a pretty basic concept that usually goes …
tl;dr hyper toxic steam fanboy.
I'm getting to a similar point as with Exclusive games when it comes to these articles. If the authors are so eager and impatient to write themselves into irrelevance, then I'm not going to stop them by even reading it. I'm tired of them misrepresenting both the points made against exclusivity/EGS and the people making them.Epic's exclusivity push leads to ugliness
When companies are engaged in vigorous competition, consumers benefit. That's a pretty basic concept that usually goes …
tl;dr hyper toxic steam fanboy.
Hades is a roguelike which I view as a type of games better played in small doses.
I really want one of y'all to make a list of EGSCloosies announced during TGA and Steam releases.A few more hours for another round of EGSclusives
Annapurna really dropped the ball today with our man Tim, shame on them