Deafening silence. Although I wouldn't be surprised if some random schmuck took the bait and endorsed his statement.I know that what Timmy said today will not change much of whats going on with EGS and stuff because people love their free games and shit, but I´m curious to know the position of pubs/devs who took the moneyhat about what he said and how the spin will go about.
i'm waiting for the day Tim Sweeney goes full Brad Wardell and stops pretending he cares about trying to please people and just tries to shut down any criticism with empty libertarian arguments. Wardell had the Gamers Bill of Rights, Sweeney had his anti UWP tweets/blog/etc. Sweeney runs a sweatsop developer, Wardell a toxic-ly masculine studio. Wardell had Impulse., Sweeney has EGS. Jeez there's more to this than I thought. We're one terrible misogynist fantasy novel away from this reality. occuring at this rate.
Indeed. I see some posts on Era saying that Sweeney is an idiot. He's not. He just can't come right out and say "we want everyone's money so we don't want to take sides or stances". He's doing preemptive damage control to avoid finding himself in a worse position in the future. He is a scumbag but a clever scumbag.Being the devil's advocate that I am, I have to say that from a heartless pragmatic perspective he is indeed correct. Politics divides, therefore not engaging in politics maximizes the customer base; he was very specific when he said "we as companies", and expecting any compassion from a corporation is a fool's errand, even the ones on "your side" just want your capital.
That was a pretty decent interview and it seems that Jonathan Lindsay has a good grip on the whole EGS thing.
That's a good point. I'd say it depends on whether he has some sort of plan in mind or he just can't help himself. Admittedly the latter would be much funnier.I'm not sure if I agree with him being a clever scumbag.
A clever scumbag, wanting to maximize his profit across all political spectrums, would have kept his mouth closed. Instead hypocritical nonsense left his mouth, probably because he likes to be praised for his "visionary" stances when it comes to the gaming industry. Not the first time, but the first time it seems to backfire.
Especially interesting after he rushed in to declare that Fortnite players are free to express their political feelings during the Blitzchung Blizzard ban event. One could argue that Blizzard was also only trying to keep politics out of gaming, while Tim happily used the political outrage to create news for himself.
But today Tim doesn't want politics to be used by PR, unless it is useful.
So yes Tim is intelligent, but he is also to narcissistic to be put into the clever PR person category. This makes him in a way not clever, because his words and actions were never helpful in bringing people together. He was always very effective in splitting up and building a dedicated group of followers.
not like the article is without random bullshit statementsThat was a pretty decent interview and it seems that Jonathan Lindsay has a good grip on the whole EGS thing.
A lot of people playing games are playing games with friends and it’s annoying when you want to play this game when it’s on another platform and you want to play with your friends, but they’re all still on Steam or whatever. But you see this with PC against Mac. Stuff like this is human nature, like with sports teams.
They won't disrespect Big Daddy. The man puts food on their table, he can offend them with his money as many times as he wants.Speaking of stupid statements, I was wondering about the Ooblets devs' reaction to Timmy's politics in games statement. They were trying to be super woke and talked about Gamers™ and how toxic they are. Now their Savior and Messiah seems to be catering to that crowd. Oh well
Hear, Hear. Preach. It's always people with conservative politics complaining about things and politics they abhor, but they're always silent when right-leaning politics in gaming comes up. Their MO (and bigotry) is not exactly rocket science.
Oh he definitely wants EGS to be like SteamBased on the few statements, I think Tim thinks that EGS should be more like Steam, where Valve takes no stance regarding content, than like Blizzard, which punished a player for supporting Hong Kong protests/riots (depending on your political side :einar: ). Creators can be political, platforms tend to avoid doing so, unless it is so harmful that governments start taking actions, e.g. with Facebook.
I think he can only speak about his experience, so esports (Fortnite) and game distribution (Epic Games store).The problem is that he isn't talking about game distribution here. He is talking about the industry in general. This includes development, publishing, distribution and financing.
I think he should only speak about his own stuff, but he crosses so many topics and addresses nearly everything from costumer - cooperation relationship to unifying platforms to politics. It's quiet awesome.I think he can only speak about his experience, so esports (Fortnite) and game distribution (Epic Games store).
This is the excerpt from the article by Dean Takahashi:
Given what happened in 2019, it is most likely a reference to Blizzard.
As for the "marketing departments" using politics to increase the number of sales, I don't know what he is referring to.
I don't know about Chickfila; could it be a reference to this?
Edit: It seems so. If I get it right, Chickfila used opposition to same-sex marriage to sell food.
He is mainly calling them out for engaging in politics, because their goal is to make chicken sandwiches and not because they're scum. Also that's why 1000s of employees joined the company? I'm pretty sure it was for money though.He is definitively calling out Chickfila for their stupidity
Do you feel like a hero yet?
This needs to be quoted in every single conversation about this topic, because it's so true.
In a better world, those kind of statements would make developers and publishers overthink their decision to work with Tim. But... I'm not having high hopes tbh.I see Sweeney succeeding at one thing beyond appearing morally bankrupt with his statements.
We're not talking about Exclusivity practices. We're talking about Gamergate and liberalism and all that crap. I'd rather we didn't pay attention to his throwing shit at the wall that distracts us from the one problem that matters with EGS : Exclusivity.
In terms of sales, we’re currently not able to track sales generated on the EpicGames Store, however we note that Shenmue III did claim a spot on the Top 20 Sellers list for several weeks. Additionally, Embracer will have received a fee for making the game exclusive to the Epic Games Store.
I get wanting greater visibility in a crowded market of battle royal shooters, but just because you launch on EGS where there are fewer games for sale and thus more store space for you stand out, doesn't mean you suddenly stop competing with those games that take up space on Steam. You're competing even harder now as people have to go out of their way, out of the big ecosystems to find you.
'Discosales.png'I get wanting greater visibility in a crowded market of battle royal shooters, but just because you launch on EGS where there are fewer games for sale and thus more store space for you stand out, doesn't mean you suddenly stop competing with those games that take up space on Steam. You're competing even harder now as people have to go out of their way, out of the big ecosystems to find you.
EGS doesn't exist in a bubble where the only competition is fortnite and the other 4 big games on the store, so this particular line of thinking doesn't make much sense to me
<tim on politics>
While I do dislike his general stance on labour and certainly his views on how to work the gaming market place, I don't necessarily think he's trying to dog whistle racists with his 'no politics in games' comments, since his other comments on politics tends to show how he feels on the matter.
Like i said above in my Brad Wardell is Tim 10 years ago comment, I'm sure Tim would love to just pile on to certain ideologies and use them to market his products, but he's smart enough not to do that thus alienating part of his audience. Counter-intuitively though, he's not smart enough not to point out the fact that he's not actively doing this publicly thus confusing both sides and muddying his own waters
"Tim is evangelizing his own believes" is a statement that can be made most of the time.RPS has written about Tim's "no politics" stance: Epic Games CEO says devs and stores should be apolitical – as if that was possible