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So what is the gacha system in this game anyway?
Weapon and characters in the same pool. Pull each month here:
Pity is 80 pulls. You get increased chance of ssr drop on 68-80 pulls. Guaranteed limited character is 160 pulls.

Overall minimal amount of pulls (excluding various gifts, mini events ect) players get a month is

F2P 60.8 pulls + 8 prem (68 total) + 22 standard;

Monthly Card 78.8 pulls + 8 prem (86 total) + 22 standard;

Monthly card + BP (BP SSR weapon picker) 83.3 pulls + 12 prem (95 total) + 22 standard.

According to CN players analytics, during Wawa patch f2p received 142 limited pulls in gems and tickets total. BP+gemcard players received 169.
 

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New Interview from the MICA leader himself.


I can't read too much of it cuz Chinese. But I've heard it's quite down to earth and almost depressing. Talks about lukewarm reception, difficulties faced, working until 4AM some days, etc...
Great interview. YZ discussed their hardship during the early days of GFL2 a lot. One thing to note, he said they made some hard stages early on but most of the players don't play them, so they nerfed/cut them out. With the opening of global server, more XCOM players should be playing the game (XCOM is very niche in Asia) so I hope that they will change their mind.
 
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Weapon and characters in the same pool. Pull each month here:
Small correction, weapon and characters are only in the same pool for the standard banner. Limited banners will have them separate.

A new contender appears


Published by Darkwinter Software Limited. Now who the hell is that lol

And in case it's region locked, this is the SteamDB page - https://steamdb.info/app/3347400/
Nice. I guess I'll see everyone on Steam then and some of you on the MOST official server.
 

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With Mica/Darkwinter also releasing on Steam, my only worry is if they add some sort of region lock (like for payments) to the pc version outside of Steam too, not necessarily at launch. I want to use my good ol' Sunborn account that I used for my whole GFL and NC run, but I also don't want to suddenly be cutoff from one version just because of my region, especially if it were to happen a year later
 

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Sunborn/MICA Team is the developer (kind of used interchangeably, I guess?). Darkwinter is the publishing arm of Sunborn.
So as a European can you also see this self published version on Steam? If you can, what reason would you (or anyone) have to play the Haoplay version?

EDIT: Soon as I pose that question I realize that some might need the EFIGS localization.
 

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So as a European can you also see this self published version on Steam? If you can, what reason would you (or anyone) have to play the Haoplay version?
Nope, I only see the Haoplay version. But I presume I can just use the self-published non-Steam version, since I already have a Sunborn account anyway from GFL1 and Neural Cloud (even if I haven't played them much).
 

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And that's Isomer and Shattered Connexion wrapped up. Really good stuff.
The Isomers are really interesting conceptually and I also find it really fascinating what they did with the "connection" stuff - the fog and such.
Good developments for M4A1 and the AR and 404 Squads. Curious to see how OGAS getting a body turns out. The whole Relic/Pike stuff has me very curious about more of the world lore.
The Commander is great.

On to Chapter 12!
 

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And that's Chapter 12 and Polarized Light done. Really tense and some sick action.

I would like to say I'm almost caught up since only Chapter 13 and 13.x are left... but those seem to be pretty much as long as everything so far combined :sweaty-blob:
 
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That steam page from darkwinter is region locked for me, guess i’m stuck on haoplay?
 
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That steam page from darkwinter is region locked for me, guess i’m stuck on haoplay?
For Steam, we may be able to use this method to download the Darkwinter version:
Or, we can directly download the Darkwinter PC client from the official site. CBT does not have region lock so probably no region lock in the final release, too.

No matter which method you use, only concern is that if there is any payment region lock in place. There is no way to tell at this moment. I am also from Haoplay region so definitely going to try the Darkwinter server on Dec 3rd.
 
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Can’t I just VPN from NA?
It’s f2p so I shouldn’t need a credit card to buy and all that shit?
 
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Can’t I just VPN from NA?
It’s f2p so I shouldn’t need a credit card to buy and all that shit?
Depends on if you want to roll or buy costumes.

I will go F2P (but plan to buy merch) so... Let's see how this region thing goes.
 
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I'm in a Haoplay region, but I'll be trying the Sunborn client from the website on the 3rd and hope for the best. The publishing situation for this is so weird.
 
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so out of curiosity is there any "multiplayer" aspect in the previous GFL game? like in HSR you can register people as friends and use their units in some modes, in FGO you can do the same, in ZZZ so far you can only register people as friends and look at their units etc etc.
 

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Stil moving along at a good pace~
Just finished reading Chapter 13 and Dual Randomness.
If there's one thing I don't like about the writing it's when it covers an event, ends on a cliffhanger and in the next section it first does a flashback and covers the same thing again, with a bit more detail, before actually continuing on.
Other than that, some really good stuff again. So many factions and intrigue, schemes within schemes :dizzy-face:
Also DEFY in suits :sweaty-blob:
The ED theme for Dual Randomness is a banger as well


Next up: Mirror Stage, which is even longer :fearful-face:
 

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so out of curiosity is there any "multiplayer" aspect in the previous GFL game? like in HSR you can register people as friends and use their units in some modes, in FGO you can do the same, in ZZZ so far you can only register people as friends and look at their units etc etc.
In the first GFL you can use a friend party during a battle as an extra unit
 
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There's also a board game you can play with up to 4 others in the Cafe. "Luffberry Chess."

GFL2 does have optional PvP I believe.
 

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GFL2 does have optional PvP I believe.
I believe the PVP gives gems for pulling so I believe what people normally do is set one unit for defense and they just try to find opponents with 1 unit and battle for the weekly.
 
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And that's Mirror Stage done :dmcblob:
Was not expecting to go through it that quickly given how long it is, but it had me on the edge of my seat. What a wild ride and that cliffhanger (cliffhangers?) was evil.

One thing that has struck me going through all of these stories is how unconventional this feels compared to most other gacha stories I'm familiar with. There's a much bigger focus on a core cast of Dolls and the non-playable human characters take up more and more screen-time and there are more and more of them. Squads of other dolls show up here and there and do get their moments, but it's a tiny amount compared to the rest (though the Night chapters existed earlier, but they stopped at some point).
I guess the first Girls' Frontline didn't actually have gacha for Dolls, which is why they didn't need to focus on selling you on the doll-of-the-month.
Since GFL2 does have Doll-gacha I'm curious how this has affected its storytelling, if it did.

According to the Cutscene Interpreter I have Poincaré Recurrence and Fixed Point left. Longitudinal Strain is marked as WIP, but Eclipses & Saros if "normal" again, with Chapter 14 as WIP but Maze Guess, Lost in Thoughts and 15.1 not WIP.
The video playlist ends after Fixed Point.
Can someone tell me at which chapter/event the game officially is yet, and what's up with the WIPs? Do I stop after Fixed Point, or should I go until 15.1? Thanks :)
 

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According to the Cutscene Interpreter I have Poincaré Recurrence and Fixed Point left. Longitudinal Strain is marked as WIP, but Eclipses & Saros if "normal" again, with Chapter 14 as WIP but Maze Guess, Lost in Thoughts and 15.1 not WIP.
The video playlist ends after Fixed Point.
Can someone tell me at which chapter/event the game officially is yet, and what's up with the WIPs? Do I stop after Fixed Point, or should I go until 15.1? Thanks
Chapter 13 is the last "normal" chapter released, the rest of the story is happening only through the main story events

In Global Eclipses & Saros was released before Longitudinal Strain. The last event released in Global is Cartesian Theater. Maze Guess is not a normal story event (it's set before the Commander's story and it focuses on dolls that appear in Neural Cloud)
 

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Thanks.
Looks like I have quite a bit more to read than what I initially thought :sweaty-blob:
Cartesian Theatre is still untranslated on the Cutscene Interpreter though, I guess cause it looks like it basically just came out. Don't think I can get all of that done in a week, lol, but I see how far I'll get.
 

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Now you are seeing why the story is so highly praised, despite the unforgiving difficulty. (Relative to other gacha.)

GFL2 does seem to shift with having chara gacha now. I'm curious how it plays out long term, but I have high hopes for the writing team!
 

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GFL2 does seem to shift with having chara gacha now. I'm curious how it plays out long term, but I have high hopes for the writing team!
I haven't followed GFL2's story at all (prefer waiting for an official translation), but I'll say this
Neural Cloud (a GF spinoff game) has character gacha and the story gets just as hype as the main game, even if it's undeniable more character based
 
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I haven't followed GFL2's story at all (prefer waiting for an official translation), but I'll say this
Neural Cloud (a GF spinoff game) has character gacha and the story gets just as hype as the main game, even if it's undeniable more character based
I'll also say Neural Cloud had a Steins;Gate collab and the writing in that was superb. Probably one of the best collab event stories I've read.
 
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And that's another one down :dmcblob:
Feels like the stakes get higher and higher and the Commander can't quite keep up. The attack on Griffin was brutal.
Paradeus is kinda busted specs-wise.
So much politics.
Was great seeing SF join the mission.
The one thing that slightly irks me is how the Commander fell for the "look it's Ange - just kidding" bait a 2nd time.
 

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Fixed Point down. If I keep reading 1 event a day I'll actually catch up before release, lol.
Story thoughts:
Tense read as usual. I do have a problem with the ending though. It kinda undermines the chapter for me tbh. Everone sacrificing themselves for the rescue mission only for Ange to go "thanks, but no thanks, I'll stay~" was a pretty big letdown.
Commander telling The Earl to f*ck off was great though.
 
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K2 and RFB when

 
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Music :longswordblob:



Well... double banner......

 
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