Community MetaSteam | December 2024 - Top Men Belong in a Museum

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dex3108

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I saw we hit our weekly quota early for valve bad on era
It's worth it because we get gems like this

The "open" nature of the PC is already being threatened by the increasingly monopolization in the hands of Valve, NVidia and Microsoft.

It's one of the reasons I've started getting back into console/Playstation gaming after several decades.
 

Durante

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I didn't buy a lot, just:

  • KeyWe, since it was on my wishlist and sufficiently discounted (on Steam)
  • Sea of Stars, since I found out it now has coop and that's basically an instant buy for me in a JRPG (on Steam)
  • Octopath Traveller, since I finally saw it for under €20, which was the maximum I set for it (on GMG)
 

Arc

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Valve is the bad guy this week because of the Coffeezilla vids. CS gambling is sketchy and Valve could do more to crack down on it, but removing trading and the market would be a net loss for most users and would lead to Valve's games going the route of nearly every other F2P game where they charge an arm and a leg for skins.

I got back into TF2 a few months ago and bought a bunch of cheap hats for less than 5 bucks which is much more preferable than paying $5-20 per hat.
 

Pixieking

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LMAO

"Open nature is threatened by the things I have dreamt up, so I've went back to a closed ecosystem"
There's definitely a parallel between people who think Valve is bad but console makers are good, and people who think the Democrats in the US are bad, so that makes voting Republican or Third Party okay. Both boil down to "This thing is not perfect, so that justifies any dumb-ass decision I make".
 

Alexandros

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There are legitimate points of criticism that can be brought up against Valve. Unfortunately, any discussion about them gets immediately poisoned by people who want to piggyback off it in order to platform war without consequences. Any good-faith criticism is drowned out by the people that have a seething, burning hatred for the company.

Lately I have become increasingly frustrated by the very low quality of discussion on Resetera and I am planning to make a post in their community discussion thread on that topic. It used to be that I posted frequently in controversial threads, now I find myself increasingly thinking "eh, why even bother". The amount of garbage posts is so high that trying to have a meaningful discussion feels futile.
 

Pixieking

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There are legitimate points of criticism that can be brought up against Valve. Unfortunately, any discussion about them gets immediately poisoned by people who want to piggyback off it in order to platform war without consequences. Any good-faith criticism is drowned out by the people that have a seething, burning hatred for the company.

Lately I have become increasingly frustrated by the very low quality of discussion on Resetera and I am planning to make a post in their community discussion thread on that topic. It used to be that I posted frequently in controversial threads, now I find myself increasingly thinking "eh, why even bother". The amount of garbage posts is so high that trying to have a meaningful discussion feels futile.
I left there... mid October? So much happened in the US election threads over the years with long-time posters being treated badly, and then the inevitable "Valve Bad" threads and it just became, like you say, a case of "Why bother?"" No-one needs constant bad-faith bitching and moaning. My mental health is so much better for dropping almost-all forums and almost-all social media.
 

DrShrapnel

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Lately I have become increasingly frustrated by the very low quality of discussion on Resetera and I am planning to make a post in their community discussion thread on that topic. It used to be that I posted frequently in controversial threads, now I find myself increasingly thinking "eh, why even bother". The amount of garbage posts is so high that trying to have a meaningful discussion feels futile.
I stopped posting on Resetera a while back.I’ve sold a lot of games on their Buy/Sell/Trade thread, and don’t want to lose access over a stupid ban because I didn’t agree with the hive mind.
 
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NarohDethan

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There are legitimate points of criticism that can be brought up against Valve. Unfortunately, any discussion about them gets immediately poisoned by people who want to piggyback off it in order to platform war without consequences. Any good-faith criticism is drowned out by the people that have a seething, burning hatred for the company.

Lately I have become increasingly frustrated by the very low quality of discussion on Resetera and I am planning to make a post in their community discussion thread on that topic. It used to be that I posted frequently in controversial threads, now I find myself increasingly thinking "eh, why even bother". The amount of garbage posts is so high that trying to have a meaningful discussion feels futile.
That’s because moderation team is useless, and the bad faith actors have learned how to weaponize it.
 
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Aaron D.

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No doubt Era's console gamers will be proud of me for not spending too much money on the biggest gambling and Nazi platform in the world. ;)
I remember recently the site admin (Bdubs I think?) flat out said that from a moderating perspective Company Ethics is the new vehicle for platform warring as the standard old way (M$ Xbots, Sony Ponies, etc.) was tired and too transparent.

Now people get their digs in based on how companies are run because it’s one of the few avenues left for plausible deniability.

It’s pretty telling viewed from that lens.

It’s too bad as there’s a world where these issues can be explored. But most certainly not on gaming forums where this data is weaponized for bad-faith platform warring.

Guess it’s mildly entertaining in small doses just to see how far some people will go trying to stealth troll, but I’ve quickly learned that it’s never worth engaging with on a serious level.
 

dex3108

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As far as i remember original idea was that Forum is also part of the Store page and it is responsibility of developers/publishers.
 
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kio

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Where I'm from there's a saying that goes something like "Those who look for it, find it"
I use steam almost daily and I use the forums from time to time, mostly for technical stuff when a game decides to be a bit temperamental, and I'm yet to find any of those blatant nazi and hateful messages/groups that keep getting mentioned. Do they exist? Probably yes but I'm not sure it's a much more widespread issue than on any other platform and/or social media site and I'd really need to dig through the mud to find them. Still, it would be better if there were none instead of a few so any mitigation actions taken by valve would be welcome.

At the end of the day it just boils down to platform warring. PC gaming (specifically steam) has grown too big too fast, especially considering how it was practically dead and on life support 20 years ago, and some don't like how their branded boxes aren't the end-all be-all they once were. There's no reasoning with these people so just leave them be and move on.
 

Lashley

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There are legitimate points of criticism that can be brought up against Valve. Unfortunately, any discussion about them gets immediately poisoned by people who want to piggyback off it in order to platform war without consequences. Any good-faith criticism is drowned out by the people that have a seething, burning hatred for the company.

Lately I have become increasingly frustrated by the very low quality of discussion on Resetera and I am planning to make a post in their community discussion thread on that topic. It used to be that I posted frequently in controversial threads, now I find myself increasingly thinking "eh, why even bother". The amount of garbage posts is so high that trying to have a meaningful discussion feels futile.
Yeah, I've learned here and discord are the places for discussions and era is the place for hot takes and one sentence posts tbh
 

fantomena

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At least I feel much better knowing I actually shut up and buy games instead of endlessly arguing against imaginary enemies
The anti-woke brigade makes discussing games quite hard nowadays, even just reading discussions in places Im not even registered at is becoming exhausting.

Before, when there were something people didn't like about a game, they moved on with their lives.

The anti-woke people actually want to harass and force devs to make the games they want. devs are not allowed to make the games they want anymore.
 
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QFNS

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In the spirit of the Holiday season I'm touring the UN General Assembly in New York today. Remembering a time when nations actually worked together on things.

There's probably a lesson in there for us somewhere
 

Li Kao

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For now my Christmas game is Leap Slam & Boneshatter, with a side dish of HAMMER OF THE GODS.
I play a little too much POE2.

Thinking about playing POE1
 

Dragon1893

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I don't engage with any of this crap. I honestly don't know where you people find the patience. I'd rather shoot myself in the head than arguing over stupid shit with randoms on the internet at the end of a stressful day at work. That's time that can be spent playing games.
 

EdwardTivrusky

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9800X3D is €950 in my country. Completely absurd. And sad. AMD finally beats Intel and their product can't be bought unless you want to pay almost double the price.
It was £490 to £520 ish in my country last time i looked but not delivered for another 3 weeks or end of Jan at the earliest.
Hopefully i can pick one up to kickstart my AM5 build in Feb but if not then my current rig will do for a while yet.
 
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Mivey

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9800X3D is €950 in my country. Completely absurd. And sad. AMD finally beats Intel and their product can't be bought unless you want to pay almost double the price.
AMD has been beating Intel for years in terms of price per performance, and 7800X3D was making Intel CPUs look like overpriced (and broken) trash for years. It's just gotten so bad recently that Intel barely feels like they are even trying to compete with AMD anymore for the Desktop market.

That said, it does seem like 9800X3D is under some massive price pressure right now. It was 55o in November when I check PCpartpicker, and now hovers around 620€. I guess yield must be kinda bad relative to the demand, so the market does what the market does and price goes up massively.
 

Parsnip

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Sad to see Gordon Mah Ung pass away. Fucking cancer.

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And then an impossible pivot into another topic.

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Selaco is an extremely intense FPS. My ass was sore today because I was clenching it so frequently playing Selaco yesterday! At first, I was like, "did I bruise my tailbone? I don't remember falling on my butt."

also, happy holidays
NGL I first read that as cleaning, not clenching. Gives the whole sentence a whole new meaning!

:wd_poop:

Happy Holidays!
 

Kyougar

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Where I'm from there's a saying that goes something like "Those who look for it, find it"
I use steam almost daily and I use the forums from time to time, mostly for technical stuff when a game decides to be a bit temperamental, and I'm yet to find any of those blatant nazi and hateful messages/groups that keep getting mentioned. Do they exist? Probably yes but I'm not sure it's a much more widespread issue than on any other platform and/or social media site and I'd really need to dig through the mud to find them. Still, it would be better if there were none instead of a few so any mitigation actions taken by valve would be welcome.

At the end of the day it just boils down to platform warring. PC gaming (specifically steam) has grown too big too fast, especially considering how it was practically dead and on life support 20 years ago, and some don't like how their branded boxes aren't the end-all be-all they once were. There's no reasoning with these people so just leave them be and move on.
Yeah, I replied to a poster for examples a few weeks back who said that they search for technical issues on Google and get Steam nazi hate-filled content instead.
Because I didn't see it when I googled ("Game xyz can't start" as a test case) for 4 of the recent games that got either targeted by the chuds for "wokism" or are believed to be nazi filled training grounds (Hoi4)

I asked for their examples of such an occurrence, but, of course, I didn't get an answer.
If you search for it, you find it, of course, but saying the google search results show a nazi heaven is just plain untrue.
 

PC-tan

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Fantomena last week



Fantomena today:


DuckTales, he is a VA in the newer DuckTales series by the way.
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I watched Sonic 3 yesterday, I liked it. In the movie while they are in Tokyo a little girl asks Tails if he is Detective Pikachu.

I'm really curious about the Japanese dubs of these Sonic movies and how much they change the dialogue (sometimes for legal reasons??)



In Japan the movie is called Tokyo Mission, which is rather strange since less than 20% of the movie actually takes place in Tokyo. A majority of the movie takes place in London.
 
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hersheyfan

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Merry Christmas, Metacouncilors! :blobily: Hope you have a great holiday!

Woke up, got a bunch of Steam load from friends and family, and immediately blew it all on video games (and went straight into the red, lol).



Now that I've finally got that out of my system (this cart has been bothering me all week), its time to spend the rest of the day eating good, and doing family stuff, and completely ignoring all that shit I just bought lol :partyblob:

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