Community MetaSteam | July 2021 - Corporate Propaganda

[Kvik]

I don't like to be the bad cop but that user registered just to be able to enter Mona's GAs.
And sorry for the off-topic but it's something that I particular don't like.

Restrict Mona to normal users then? Not sure how I feel about that but I dislike what this user is doing.

Can’t we have a rule that for someone to count as an active member they need five posts in the last 48 hours? So essentially a no lurker rule.

i had an idea to make the "no lurker" restriction have a time bracket ... kinda like what volvo did with the Deck reservations ... something like "you need to have posted at least X times between X days/weeks/months ago, and a week ago" ... that kind of thing

should hopefully prevent people just spamming the posts randomly to get above the threshold

I have a couple of ideas on how to combat this issue:

1. In addition to the "no-lurkers" rule, a MetaMember can only enter a giveaway if they have posted more than 5 times in the thread that the giveaway was posted.
2. In the case of long-term MetaMember who seldom post in the thread, or after a long time absence wanting to enter a giveaway, they must meet a threshold of received reaction score. My rationale for this is that if you're contributing to the community, other members will react to your contribution, however small it is.

Y'all should play Samurai Warriors 5 or I'm gonna rage musou you.

If what Naroh said isn't enough incentive, the nude mods are in the works as we speak.

 

[BoosterDuck]

 

[lashman]

I have a couple of ideas on how to combat this issue:

1. In addition to the "no-lurkers" rule, a MetaMember can only enter a giveaway if they have posted more than 5 times in the thread that the giveaway was posted.
2. In the case of long-term MetaMember who seldom post in the thread, or after a long time absence wanting to enter a giveaway, they must meet a threshold of received reaction score. My rationale for this is that if you're contributing to the community, other members will react to your contribution, however small it is.

i'll just tag Valdien in here

 

[TioChuck]

Game looks like lots of fun, but damn, that aimassist is some aimbot bs.

 

[Valdien]

Spoiler

I don't like to be the bad cop but that user registered just to be able to enter Mona's GAs.
And sorry for the off-topic but it's something that I particular don't like.

Edit. lashman beat me again

Restrict Mona to normal users then? Not sure how I feel about that but I dislike what this user is doing.

Can’t we have a rule that for someone to count as an active member they need five posts in the last 48 hours? So essentially a no lurker rule.

i had an idea to make the "no lurker" restriction have a time bracket ... kinda like what volvo did with the Deck reservations ... something like "you need to have posted at least X times between X days/weeks/months ago, and a week ago" ... that kind of thing

should hopefully prevent people just spamming the posts randomly to get above the threshold

I have a couple of ideas on how to combat this issue:

1. In addition to the "no-lurkers" rule, a MetaMember can only enter a giveaway if they have posted more than 5 times in the thread that the giveaway was posted.
2. In the case of long-term MetaMember who seldom post in the thread, or after a long time absence wanting to enter a giveaway, they must meet a threshold of received reaction score. My rationale for this is that if you're contributing to the community, other members will react to your contribution, however small it is.

I don't think adding even more "restriction options" to Mona right now is the best approach. The way I see it, there are already enough restrictions in place to combat this issue. So far, it seems like a single "bad apple" decided to spam 5 posts in order to meet the lurker requirement. None of those posts were at all contributing to MC in any meaningful way. They're all emojis. I caught onto it instantly, too.

I haven't had a chance to engage in MC's content removal/moderation system, but I believe we can report such posts. T&C

Other options available to anyone that creates a giveaway in the future:

Past Winner Restriction: One week. This will stop such users from simply entering whatever giveaways they can, but I do understand it's not the most ideal solution since it applies to all users.

Applying the count post made in X days restriction: Again, it's another user-wide restriction, but considering this particular user has not made any posts since July 22, a creator can apply a 5 day or one-week rule to the giveaway. If the user tries to get over this restriction, it'll be pretty obvious since they're going to post nothing but spam.

I've also increased the minimum post count requirement to 10. If the user tries the same thing again, I believe the best thing to do would be to report the user's content. Happy to reduce the count back to 5 if everyone here feels that's fair, or we can keep it at 10.

If none of MC's current methods work to solve the issue, then I believe we can look into adding more restrictions to the giveaways.

 

[lashman]

I don't think adding even more "restriction options" to Mona right now is the best approach. The way I see it, there are already enough restrictions in place to combat this issue. So far, it seems like a single "bad apple" decide to spam 5 posts in order to meet the lurker requirement. None of those posts were at all contributing to MC in any meaningful way. They're all emojis. I caught onto it instantly, too.

I haven't had a chance to engage in MC's content removal/moderation system, but I believe we can report such posts. T&C

Other options available to anyone that creates a giveaway in the future:

Past Winner Restriction: One week. This will stop such users from simply entering whatever giveaways they can, but I do understand it's not the most ideal solution since it applies to all users.

Applying the count post made in X days restriction: Again, it's another user-wide restriction, but considering this particular user has not made any posts since July 22, a creator can apply a 5 day or one-week rule to the giveaway. If the user tries to get over this restriction, it'll be pretty obvious since they're going to post nothing but spam.

I've also increased the minimum post count requirement to 10. If the user tries the same thing again, I believe the best thing to do would be to report the user's content. Happy to reduce the count back to 5 if everyone here feels that's fair, or we can keep it at 10.

If none of MC's current methods work to solve the issue, then I believe we can look into adding more restrictions to the giveaways.

sounds reasonable to me thanks!

 

[Cacher]

good post

Thank you for making Mona into a better bot system person user... Geez, none of them sound right.

 

[ExistentialThought]

Out now:

 

[BoosterDuck]

Game looks like lots of fun, but damn, that aimassist is some aimbot bs.

it's only so console babbies can play evenly against keyboard warriors

 

[r3n4ud]

Out now:

That price

 

[Theswweet]

Good on CC2 for not fucking around with regional pricing - the only real outlier is the HK pricing.

 

[NarohDethan]

Good on CC2 for not fucking around with regional pricing - the only real outlier is the HK pricing.

which game?

 

[r3n4ud]

which game?

Fuga

 

[Gintaro]

Out now:

Nice its following Valve region pricing, will be grabbing it

 

[thistestnow]

Didn't get an invite for Halo Infinite fights, but got one for every MCC release.

How could you forsaken me.

 

[Cacher]

I am wondering why Mary Skelter Finale skips PC release. Considering NISA signaled that they are not doing great on PC, is Idea Factory also having bad sales on PC?

 

[Li Kao]

Child go read some actual friggin literature, and j aint talkin about game.of thrones, i mean actual literature
Because if you did
You would have named them after discworld characters (Death doesnt count ya lazy bum)

How the fuck did this post lead me to the wikipedia page of Albert Camus and the Monad philosophical principle ? FFS Internet
…
Oh, no no, it’s not a flex, I understood pretty much nothing about Monads.

 

[Gintaro]

I am wondering why Mary Skelter Finale skips PC release. Considering NISA signaled that they are not doing great on PC, is Idea Factory also having bad sales on PC?

Don't think that's the case though since most of IF games have a PC release (except for Mary Skelter and their Otome games).

Sorry to ask but for NISA when did they show their PC sales is bad though? Can't really remember them saying this

 

[Cacher]

Don't think that's the case though since most of IF games have a PC release (except for Mary Skelter and their Otome games).

Sorry to ask but for NISA when did they show their PC sales is bad though? Can't really remember them saying this

NISA did not explicitly say it, but they raised the msrp of their past titles and did not release some titles on PC (like Mary Skelter Finale, console only). It seems that both of them are not having a good time on PC anyway, judging from the review count from some of their recent titles.

 

[toxicitizen]

I am wondering why Mary Skelter Finale skips PC release. Considering NISA signaled that they are not doing great on PC, is Idea Factory also having bad sales on PC?

As far as I can tell the second game also skipped PC for some reason, so this last one following suit isn't that much of a surprise.

 

[Tizoc]

If what Naroh said isn't enough incentive, the nude mods are in the works as we speak.

 

[Cacher]

As far as I can tell the second game also skipped PC for some reason, so this last one following suit isn't that much of a surprise.

Somehow I assumed they completely skipped the western release of 2. Well...

 

[Routa]

I might have a problem. That's too many hours for one day

 

[dex3108]

For that you could just buy a modmic (like the Boompro or the antillion).

What'sthe point of adding microphone to basically broken headphones (ear cushions are worn off, headband adjustment broken, cable has issues sometimes...).

just use laptops integrated mic with good headphones for ultimate qautily for lower cost.

I didn't pull out my laptop from it's bag for years

 

[Futaleufu]

i think the current giveaway settings should be enough to restrict participants, just remove juniors and lurkers from the allowed entrants.

 

[sanhora]

Buying weeb games on day1 always pays off.

 

[curi0usBystander]

What'sthe point of adding microphone to basically broken headphones (ear cushions are worn off, headband adjustment broken, cable has issues sometimes...).

I didn't mean to the broken ones it was (a proposal) for a cheap version of non-gaming headphones + a mike.

 

[dex3108]

I didn't mean to the broken ones it was (a proposal) for a cheap version of non-gaming headphones + a mike.

Nah as I said I am not heavy user and Arctis 1 is perfectly fine for my needs. It was best bang for the buck for me (looking at the availability and local prices).

 

[Le Pertti]

Buying weeb games on day1 always pays off.

Yeah I think I made like 10€ from selling Persona 4 cards at the beginning!

 

[Jav]

Last day of work yay, time to not reduce my backlog in any way and just keep playing the same old games

 

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[prudis]

I am wondering why Mary Skelter Finale skips PC release. Considering NISA signaled that they are not doing great on PC, is Idea Factory also having bad sales on PC?

might be tied to the fact that Mary Skelter 1 was ported and published ony PC by Ghostlight ..... the MS2 and now MS3 so far has been console only.
I guess there might be some contractual things between Iffy/NISA/Ghostlight that needs to be sorted our first .

kinda reminds me we havent had new Ghostlight port for quite some time

 

[fantomena]

Im installing a few games on Origin to see if Im still interested in playing them as Im considering to uninstall Origin, as in games like Syndicate, MoH Warfighter, games that EA didn't bother to put anywhere else or that I don't own on Steam and has too high price on Steam (NFS 2015).

Holy shit Origin is still so bad, laggy, slow, jusat awful all around. I also don't have EA Desktop App installed because that thing also sucks a lot.

 

[Ascheroth]

NISA did not explicitly say it, but they raised the msrp of their past titles and did not release some titles on PC (like Mary Skelter Finale, console only). It seems that both of them are not having a good time on PC anyway, judging from the review count from some of their recent titles.

Well, increasing the prices is not going to help with that.

 

[Mor]

NISA did not explicitly say it, but they raised the msrp of their past titles and did not release some titles on PC (like Mary Skelter Finale, console only). It seems that both of them are not having a good time on PC anyway, judging from the review count from some of their recent titles.

That's because they don't care about how to cultivate a good fanbase on the platform, keep the consistency and promote your games as much as you want, if you cut all the ports all the sudden, people will move on.

 

[Tomasety]

For VR headset owners I saw this game on Steamdb hot releases and immediately thought of MC once I discovered the most famous react button on it.

kek

 

[fokkusu]

Bought Great Ace Attorney. I hope it will help AA5 and AA6 to arrive to Steam.

 

[prudis]

 

[Gintaro]

NISA did not explicitly say it, but they raised the msrp of their past titles and did not release some titles on PC (like Mary Skelter Finale, console only). It seems that both of them are not having a good time on PC anyway, judging from the review count from some of their recent titles.

Yea sad to see some interesting games from NISA will not release on PC

But still IMO for Idea Factory it's better to assume that Mary Skelter is the outlier instead since Idea Factory is pretty supportive on PC platform. They are even willing to restore the old costumes for the pc release of DER2.

 

[prudis]

i still think if Mary Skelter 2 or 3 comes , it will be from Ghostlight like the first game and not by NISA

 

[Mor]

i still think if Mary Skelter 2 or 3 comes , it will be from Ghostlight like the first game and not by NISA

This is certainly a possibility.

 

[thekeats1999]

Typical isn't it.

Had an email saying I have access to the halo infinite flighting this weekend and I am away for all of it.

Maybe the next one.

 

[lashman]

Good on CC2 for not fucking around with regional pricing - the only real outlier is the HK pricing.

INTI, on the other hand, can fuck right off ... straight into the sun

 

[Gintaro]

INTI, on the other hand, can fuck right off ... straight into the sun

Shame, I've always purchase their stuff day 1

 

[lashman]

Shame, I've always purchase their stuff day 1

they already tried this bullshit once, with the previous game ... but people shouted them down, and they reverted to volvo suggested pricing ... guess they're trying it again now

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

Erm, Argentinian Meta. Can you just check each others' backs to see if someone has taped a "Kick Me while I'm Down" sign on there?
Other South American and European countries have crappy regional pricing too but you lot regularly have 600%+ increases, it's insane!
Were you rude to the publishers' moms?
... and their Gran?
... and their Pets?
... Did you call their babies ugly?
... did you poop on their lawns?

I'm struggling to think why you lot regularly get a bigger kicking than anywhere else percentage-wise.
Does it include your local sales tax? Is that what boosts it to the stratosphere? Or is that tax on top of that price?

 

[lashman]

Does it include your local sales tax? Is that what boosts it to the stratosphere? Or is that tax on top of that price?

for Argentina they get an additional +65% on top of every price on steam ... so that INTI game is in fact almost $20 in Argentina ... so basically more expensive than Switzerland

for EU, though - tax is already included in the price

 

[Swenhir]

Erm, Argentinian Meta. Can you just check each others' backs to see if someone has taped a "Kick Me while I'm Down" sign on there?
Other South American and European countries have crappy regional pricing too but you lot regularly have 600%+ increases, it's insane!
Were you rude to the publishers' moms?
... and their Gran?
... and their Pets?
... Did you call their babies ugly?
... did you poop on their lawns?

I'm struggling to think why you lot regularly get a bigger kicking than anywhere else percentage-wise.
Does it include your local sales tax? Is that what boosts it to the stratosphere? Or is that tax on top of that price?

Argentina has been kicked in the proverbial nuts so hard it's not even funny. I'm not as familiar with SA but I've seen a bit of the history there and it's hard not to feel really sorry. The difference between the 70s and now is horrible.

 

[Tizoc]

 

[Cacher]

might be tied to the fact that Mary Skelter 1 was ported and published ony PC by Ghostlight ..... the MS2 and now MS3 so far has been console only.
I guess there might be some contractual things between Iffy/NISA/Ghostlight that needs to be sorted our first .

kinda reminds me we havent had new Ghostlight port for quite some time

That's a factor that I did not consider. I remember Ghostlight said they were porting games to Switch (turned out to be Fairy Fencer F and some other games) in 2018. Their twitter account is still active so I guess they are quietly working on something but not ready to announce yet.