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I don't wanna sound pessimistic but for some reason I kind of fear we might get to see some kind of timed exclusive deal. sorry, EGS really has ruined my mindset whenever I hear about ports and shit scares me now.
Let's be honest here, what EGS got from SEGA? Troy and Sonic Colors
What Steam got from SEGA? Persona 4, Persona 5 strikers, SMT3, All Yakuzas, and so on...

I don't really understand this trend of thinking that all the sudden everything will become exclusive, most of the time everything happens for a reason and so far EGS has felt like the place you dump your games that you think they won't sell well or the games Epic pays MILLIONS in order to get them.

To be honest? the only company that seems to be this dumb is Square Enix, SEGA in that matter hasn't been that stupid.
 

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So, is there any real reason to revisit the older Persona games before playing P5? I played Persona 1 once on an emulator, and didn't find it very interesting, but I remember hearing good things about Persona 2 (the fan translation) and P3 and P4.


On another topic, I actually really like the new look for Firefox. I never liked the tabs being connected to the address bar, should have always been buttons, as you're toggling between sites. Kinda wish they'd continue on this bath and make the UI more modular, allowing you to place whatever bar wherever you want. If someone wanted to have the tab buttons below the address bar, you'd be easily able to do so.
 
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So, is there any real reason to revisit the older Persona games before playing P5? I played Persona 1 once on an emulator, and didn't find it very interesting, but I remember hearing good things about Persona 2 (the fan translation) and P3 and P4.
I mean, playing persona 2 (as much as I liked the game for what it was) in english (since it's the only language it got a translation) is a bit weird.
Innocent sin (part 1) you can play the psp version with a bunch of QOL improvements and a decent translation and then you can only play the ps1 version of Eternal punishment (part 2) (there was a translation project in the works for the psp version but I don't think it's finished).
That creates a slightly weird translation (since it keeps the names that were changed in persona 1), and it lacks the QOL improvements and the exra scenarios.

With that said, treat older persona as dungeon crawlers with heavy story elements if you're into that they're worth playing.
 
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So, is there any real reason to revisit the older Persona games before playing P5? I played Persona 1 once on an emulator, and didn't find it very interesting, but I remember hearing good things about Persona 2 (the fan translation) and P3 and P4.
  1. P1 is commonly regarded as the most barebones game in Persona and SMT series. PSP remake makes the dialogue more colorful, but gameplay is still eh.
  2. P2 IS + EP (it is a duology) is better in everyone. Story and storytelling method are still unique to this day (spreading rumours is a game mechanic) and battle system is much better (though newer players might find it off putting).
    Worth playing for the story.
  3. P3 is in the same family of 3D SMT games. Very dark with story and themes, and tough JRPG gameplay. Story is still hardhitting, only thing that hasn't aged is the pacing (can be too long/exhausting)
  4. P4 is essentially the same gameplay/feel-wise but a very different story and theme/tone compared to P3. P4 holds up in story, gameplay and pacing.
 

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I mean, playing persona 2 (as much as I liked the game for what it was) in english (since it's the only language it got a translation) is a bit weird.
Innocent sin (part 1) you can play the psp version with a bunch of QOL improvements and a decent translation and then you can only play the ps1 version of Eternal punishment (part 2) (there was a translation project in the works for the psp version but I don't think it's finished).
That creates a slightly weird translation (since it keeps the names that were changed in persona 1), and it lacks the QOL improvements and the exra scenarios.

With that said, treat older persona as dungeon crawlers with heavy story elements if you're into that they're worth playing.
Ok, that's fair. I might give Persona 2 a try, see if I like the combat system or not. If it's mostly a dungeon crawler, then the real question is if combat is fun. If not, I doubt story in between could save it.
 
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I'm completely addicted to Warhammer 40k Inquisitor, a great aRPG from the creators of the Van Helsing games. It's so much better than I expected, but for some reason no one in my friends list has played it...
Is it that good? There's a bajillion DLC and 20 bucks is a bit too rich for my blood at this point.
 

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I spent the morning/afternoon drinking coffee and figuring out which games I'd like to take a look at from the bundle for Palestian aid on itch, and I made a collection. Not very comprehensive, excludes games I've already played and it's completely tuned to my own interests, but if you'd nonetheless like a slightly more reasonably scoped list of included stuff, see the link below.

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Facebook Gaming acquired the developers of Crayta.
Everyone trying to enter into that Roblox money without realizing they are 2-3 years too late for that and they keep targetting teenagers with their games instead of targetting children.

This is one of the most "commonly known list of big indies" I have ever seen lol.

This kind of thing is the biggest danger for small indies right now. Previously when new consoles came, you had a big reset that allowed new indies to sell a ton before the market crowed up. This gen of consoles you have to compete with the PS4 gen of games.
 

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Is it that good? There's a bajillion DLC and 20 bucks is a bit too rich for my blood at this point.
There is a GW wide sale on at the moment. It's 75% off for both Martyr and the prophecy expansion. So at a guess $10 a piece.
 

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So I randomly decided to browse twitch to see what people are playing/watching. Didn't find any surprise game but something else caught my eye, a category labeled "Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches" and curiosity got the best of me.
Most viewed stream:




Just from the thumbnail there's a lot to parce but I'll leave that to somebody else.

Seriously, wtf twitch... and wtf people watching this.
 

Wok

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Seriously, wtf twitch... and wtf people watching this.
You will see that it gets addicting. :ninja: Just kidding.

Also, the best streamers in that category should earn nearly 500 k$ per year, so that won't disappear anytime soon.

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Li Kao

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Tempted to get over my gaming inertia by finally catching up with Gears or Halo with Xcloud to play the missing episodes on PC.
Is Xcloud good enough ?
 
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Seriously, wtf twitch... and wtf people watching this.
The short answer is that there's a market for it (always has been).
The slightly longer answer:
Some streamers realised that doing that wasn't against the rules but (allegedly) some advertisers didn't like it.
And so after removing some ads and some slight internet drama twitch created a new category: Twitch Blog | Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

And that's just the tip of the iceberg that's just used to funnel people to other places like OnlyFans and the like.
 

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You will see that it gets addicting. :ninja: Just kidding.

Also, the best streamers in that category should earn nearly 500 k$ per year, so that won't disappear anytime soon.

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500k?

I really made some daft career choices when this is what’s pulling in that kind of cash
 
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Wok

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I really made some daft career choices when this is what’s pulling in that kind of cash
That is the kind of salary earned by the top streamer mentioned in kio's post.

For instance, in this article, Twitch's ad revenue accounts for 360 k$ per year in itself.

In a stream on Wednesday after the ban, Amouranth told her viewers that her ad revenue "was making me $30,000 a month", and was much higher than the amount she received from direct donations from viewers.

And there are other sources of revenue from streaming:

Amouranth's Twitch channel currently has around 20,000 subscribers who either pay $4.99 a month or access content through an Amazon Prime subscription. Siragusa also makes money through donations on her channel, and through her OnlyFans and Patreon pages. On Patreon, she has 1,000 subscribers who pay between $20 and $150.

I don't know how much she earned from:
  • these 100 $k/month Twitch Prime,
  • direct donations on her channel,
  • OnlyFans,
  • these at least $20 k$/month from Patreon,
  • etc.
She actually could earn a million USD per year from her online activities. Or even way more than that...
 
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MaskedCircle

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So, is there any real reason to revisit the older Persona games before playing P5? I played Persona 1 once on an emulator, and didn't find it very interesting, but I remember hearing good things about Persona 2 (the fan translation) and P3 and P4.
I've played all of them so I can give you a simple rundown
p1 didn't age at all, while the story and characters were really interesting, it has the plot like persona 4 i.e. realizing your true self but done better imo.
p2 duology is my fav in the franchise so I might be biased but it has the best story and characters out of all franchise, it divides one game into two parts, treating the silent protagonist of first part as an active NPC of 2nd which gives a ton more depth to the silent protagonist, I really like this thing in the game. Though, I can say for sure it's honestly the darkest persona in the whole franchise, I wanna go into details but that means spoiling the story.
p3 is more on the lighter end in comparison with the introduction of socials links and stuff but still manages to retain it's overall theme of 'death'. My only complaints with this one is the pacing and the dungeons. Like p2, I absolutely adored the characters.
p4 is even more light in terms of its themes, but good nonetheless, (honestly it's my least fav game because there are things I'm not a big fan of, subjectively speaking. That's why I'm not speaking much haha) Tho I'd say it still has the dungeon issues, while it tries to improve from persona 3, I still dislike the random generated dungeons.
p5 when it comes to presentation, it's my absolute fav, the game's aesthetics are a jam, the dungeons and the overall presentation of the game is top notch. I absolutely love the return of demon negotiation from the smt games and overall a decent game imo, the story's good nothing special imo but the characters felt more distant then ever. (I haven't played royal so I don't know if they have changed anything in this department)
 
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Li Kao

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P1 remake was horrible.
While I can believe they toned down the general difficulty of the game, it's one of those RPG where you reach the final boss and must grind for hours in order to not get nuked.
 
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Context : Engine Software not only did the excellent PC port of Killer7 (Another Suda51 game), they also added subtitles which are not in any other version of the game.

These people care about their porting process.
It's hard to care about porting process and not support mandatory input method on the platform -> shit port confirmed.

Notice: No More Heroes requires a Nintendo Switch in order to play.
Why the fuck are we selling it on steam? Why not.
 
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This kind of thing is the biggest danger for small indies right now. Previously when new consoles came, you had a big reset that allowed new indies to sell a ton before the market crowed up. This gen of consoles you have to compete with the PS4 gen of games.
Also doesn't help that the console stores are terrible at discovery features.
 
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As the release of The Good Life draws closer, we have some important news to share with everyone from whom we've received so much invaluable support for this project.

Today, we are excited to announce our new publishing partner: PLAYISM! We’ve worked with them in the past, and we’re thrilled to partner up with them once again to bring The Good Life to as many players as possible.

While this means that our collaboration with The Irregular Corporation will be coming to an end, the decision to part ways was mutual. The Irregular Corporation has been a great partner, and we appreciate all their support and input in bringing more Britishness to Rainy Woods.

Development is in its final stretch, and we’re excited to get The Good Life into your hands this Fall, as we are putting our final, but required, last touches to the game.
gotta wonder if Irregular Corp getting bought by Tim was the reason ... maybe Tim is forcing all those devs to go egsclusive, or lose the publishing deal (yes, i know Going Medieval released on steam ... but that was shortly after the acquisition, and The Good Life won't be coming out until fall)
 
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What was the context of this tweet? I can guess it's persona related judging by the later posts here.

I should play Persona 4... That fusion system turned me off harder than a circuit breaker.
 

MaskedCircle

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P1 remake was horrible.
While I can believe they toned down the general difficulty of the game, it's one of those RPG where you reach the final boss and must grind for hours in order to not get nuked.
I agree, not to mention the new ost sucks in comparison.
 

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Oh yeah, ratings. A while buncha fake stuff coming out all at once. When's it the afternoon in france?
 

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Put a good amount of hours into CSIV and I'm enjoying it more than CSIII so far. I think it's because the plot has been progressing steadily without any major breaks, I realize now that those days dedicated specifically to doing sidequests, bonding, etc killed the pacing for me and felt like a chore. Checking off the sidequests felt like work and I never got very invested in most of these characters so the bonding didn't do much for me. On the other hand the other Kiseki arcs have some of my favorite casts in any game.
I also prefer having
Juna
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Thank God for turbo mode though, it can't be said enough.
 
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