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kafiend

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Hey I'm thinking of finally fixing my PS Vita. It has drift on the left analog and it's most likely because of dirt. What should I use to pry the system open without worrying about breaking something?
I'd use a phone or a tablet tools kit to pry it open. I have never opened my Vita but anything like that I would use plastic tools for leverage and for the catches as well as screwdrivers or torx.
 
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I buy games, but lately I've been playing mostly a couple of free to play games... (am I doing it right?) :upside-down-face:
Pretty good but ideally you should download them so they hog all your storage space, install any and all mods you see, start up the first level and tweak the settings until the visuals and performance are in perfect harmony. Then never touch it again.
 

EdwardTivrusky

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But remember to check the mod pages regularly to keep them up to date, keep the game up to date in steam, maybe fire up the game and let it sit at the menu screen for a few minutes now and then and then quit it without playing so you can watch cat videos on youtube.

For extra points, in between the cat videos you can watch videos of the next game you're going to get... and not play.

Then when you feel bad about not playing any of the games you have you can install a game you've completed a million times and play that instead.
 

ezodagrom

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Pretty good but ideally you should download them so they hog all your storage space, install any and all mods you see, start up the first level and tweak the settings until the visuals and performance are in perfect harmony. Then never touch it again.
For the ones that I have installed, I do that. xD

Though, I do want to play many of the games I have, especially story heavy RPGs, but at the end of work days I end up with no mental energy for such games, and end up playing just PSO2 and Apex Legends during the week.
 

Kvik

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Downunder.
Pretty good but ideally you should download them so they hog all your storage space, install any and all mods you see, start up the first level and tweak the settings until the visuals and performance are in perfect harmony. Then never touch it again.
I'm in this statement and I don't like it. Are you looking over my shoulder right now?

But remember to check the mod pages regularly to keep them up to date, keep the game up to date in steam, maybe fire up the game and let it sit at the menu screen for a few minutes now and then and then quit it without playing so you can watch cat videos on youtube.
Replace cat videos with Hololive and I'm in this statement. AGAIN. Have you lot invaded my study or something?
Not so sure about Death Mark after a quick google search about it and its sequel. It’s straight up torture porn at that point. I like horror, not getting new traumas.
If there's any consolation, there's some erotica involved to balance the scale a little bit.
 

Knurek

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Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Genuinely curious as I know nothing of the SMT series, but this one seems more revered than the rest
Well, this game, during the first 30 minutes, has all of the world being thrown into Hell, with demons feasting on tasty human flesh/souls throughout the game
It's a game that doesn't shy away from killing you off during the tutorial fight.
It's also a game that lets you add Lord of Flies, Beelzebub to your party and let them fight alongside Goddess Shiva and Archangel Michael..
 
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Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Genuinely curious as I know nothing of the SMT series, but this one seems more revered than the rest
Too put it simply it's a very good/hard game and the story is also pretty cool. It's also the first ATLUS game to have the "1 more" system.

Even in Japan from what I remember when looking at the top 5 JRPGs of all time on the PS2, you will always see SMT3 in the top 5. FFX is always number one since Japan loves that game, also in those ranks, SMT3 ranks higher than Persona 3 or Persona 4. So yeah.

If this really came out of nowhere I guess people would make an even bigger deal about it but seeing how it's already out in Japan and still has some issue, and the price and a number of other things that the hype is not nearly as high as it could be.

Remember the P4G hype it likely would have been like that if it was just released and was a decent port for cheap.
Well, this game, during the first 30 minutes, has all of the world being thrown into Hell, with demons feasting on tasty human flesh/souls throughout the game
It's a game that doesn't shy away from killing you off during the tutorial fight.
It's also a game that lets you add Lord of Flies, Beelzebub to your party and let them fight alongside Goddess Shiva and Archangel Michael..
ah yes that part of SMT, Persona 0-2 had that sort of stuff but then they removed it in Persona 3 onward.
 
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Cordelia

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Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Genuinely curious as I know nothing of the SMT series, but this one seems more revered than the rest
It's the first SMT game not only on Nintendo system.
 

Kvik

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Downunder.
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Genuinely curious as I know nothing of the SMT series, but this one seems more revered than the rest
Personally, I like Nocturne because of its atmosphere. Here you are; half-man, half-demon, surviving only by the aid of demons you collected, your friends have deserted you, while the world warped around you, ready to take your life at every opportunity. Nothing captures the feeling of solitude and hopelessness like Nocturne does. Despite all of this, you keep marching on and brought the fight to the gods themselves.

The level designs in this game are timeless, and they still look great despite their age.





And the soundtrack is also quite sublime.

 

Wok

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Pretty good but ideally you should download them so they hog all your storage space, install any and all mods you see, start up the first level and tweak the settings until the visuals and performance are in perfect harmony. Then never touch it again.
But remember to check the mod pages regularly to keep them up to date, keep the game up to date in steam, maybe fire up the game and let it sit at the menu screen for a few minutes now and then and then quit it without playing so you can watch cat videos on youtube.

For extra points, in between the cat videos you can watch videos of the next game you're going to get... and not play.

Then when you feel bad about not playing any of the games you have you can install a game you've completed a million times and play that instead.
Though, I do want to play many of the games I have, especially story heavy RPGs, but at the end of work days I end up with no mental energy for such games, and end up playing just PSO2 and Apex Legends during the week.
All of these are true.
 
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Tomasety

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MFW every Atlus release and then watching the regional pricing.

This is somehow WORSE than EA and Ubisoft of all things.

You know you're out of your mind when you hike the Russian pricing beyond R1999. Talk about OUT-OF-TOUCH.
The Russian price must be a mistake. I checked on authorized retailers and pre order price is set at 1699 RUB for the base version and 2499 RUB for deluxe.
 
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Arsene

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Fucking hell, that price! P4G is like less than half?
Yes because P4G is a port. SMTIII is a remaster with both JP/EN voice dub (original game had none), Chronicle content (never got localized), and remastered on a different engine (Unity). Also going by screenshots it seems like they redid the localization as well.

Regional pricing is atrocious though. Wtf Atlus
 

Wok

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Way of the Samurai 3 will be delisted from... GOG.

We’d like to inform you that Way of the Samurai 3 will be delisted from our catalog due to expiring licensing rights on Sunday, March 21th, 11pm UTC.

For everyone who purchased it prior to delisting, it will remain in their GOG library.


Steam stop being prudes dammit!
It is making me really curious about Seducer 3. I thought it was some kind of goofy Leisure Suite Larry x FMV game, but I guess there is more to it.
 

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Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal? Genuinely curious as I know nothing of the SMT series, but this one seems more revered than the rest
It's just a masterpiece all around, one of those games where the stars aligned to create something that is hard to repeat, even within the same franchise.

That being said, 50 euros is just...
Considering P4G was 20 and is actually a more recent game, I'm very disappointed with this decision. That's basically what I paid for it back on the PS2 13 years ago. This had more work put into it but you just can't defend this price.
 

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It's just a masterpiece all around, one of those games where the stars aligned to create something that is hard to repeat, even within the same franchise.

That being said, 50 euros is just...
Considering P4G was 20 and is actually a more recent game, I'm very disappointed with this decision. That's basically what I paid for it back on the PS2 13 years ago. This had more work put into it but you just can't defend this price.
I'm not gonna defend the regional pricing because it sucks, but considering the work they did on it plus Atlus tax, the Western price is actually in line with what I expected.

P4G on PC was an anomaly for a variety of reasons:
  • Sega probably being overly cautious about how well it'll sell on PC
  • A port of a Vita game (which was full priced when it released)
  • Already cheap to buy on Vita, especially in Europe where NISA published it and pretty much decimated its shelf value in a matter of months
It's not an apples to apples comparison. Nocturne is remaster that has had a lot of work going into it. The whole game has been rebuilt in Unity, they've touched up some of the visuals and redone the localisation by the looks of it. Also take in mind that this isn't a full-priced Atlus game.

I think if this were any other publisher, I'd be expecting it to come in at around £30-£35. Given the Atlus tax (which is part hubris, part confidence), we're looking at £45. A full-priced Atlus game right now is coming in at £55.

It's a steep price if you think about it as a PS2 game, but this remaster has gone beyond being just a port. Plus, because of its difficulty, the audience for a SMT game is far more limited compared to a mainline Persona. Atlus can price Persona games more flexibly to reach more people, but SMT III is only going to sell a fraction of what P4G did on PC regardless of price.

And as always, if the full price is too high for you, wait for a sale. The game will be discounted as soon as it's on GMG/WinGameStore, and if that's still not enough Nocturne's aesthetic lends itself to a 30-50% Halloween Sale discount later in the year.
 

Arsene

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Way of the Samurai 3 will be delisted from... GOG.





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Wonder if the Steam version will get pulled as well. Glad I bought both 3 and 4 during the last sale if thats the case.
 

texhnolyze

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It's alive~! :face-screaming-in-fear:

So yes, the game is "done". As of this week, we passed certification on Xbox One, and PS4/PS5 have been certified for a while now. There are a couple Kickstarter reward key things on the PS4/PS5 side but the big certification stuff is done. Which is a massive relief. I think a lot of people forget that we're releasing the game on consoles as well...without a publisher, or a third party dev studio doing the ports. We're only three core devs working on all of that. So what does that mean? It means Chien pretty much by himself has been handling PS4/Xbox One and PS5 development. While Tim and I pressed on adding all the new content, and features to the game for our v1.0 launch. This also includes the recent PS5 trailers, store page setups all of which have been a substantial amount of work in an of itself.

In fall of 2020, we had put out a trailer for PS5 announcement, with an estimate for a Q1 2021 v1.0 launch out of Early Access. We're close to that expected window. Actually, we could've shipped this March possibly earlier even with all the crap we dealt with but we figured it best to polish this a bit more instead of releasing a build hot off the presses. I'd update our estimate to put us in mid/end April window. I mean again it's an estimate especially given how this year has been but it's definitely close as we're content complete, we are through certification for PS4/PS5/Xbox One and we're in the process of getting the console keys for our Kickstarter backers setup. So it's a matter of polishing out those game spots, getting our launch trailer prepped and the final global regions ready for launch.
 

Rockin' Ranger

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I don't know about games media, but the reason I ignored LiS2 was because I couldn't handle the writing of the first game. The whole American school drama is something completely foreign and uninteresting to me and I found the main character (Chloe) to be extremely obnoxious.
If you managed to find Chloe obnoxious you are in for some serious suffering when putting up with Daniel if you ever play Life is Strange 2.
 
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Yes because P4G is a port. SMTIII is a remaster with both JP/EN voice dub (original game had none), Chronicle content (never got localized), and remastered on a different engine (Unity). Also going by screenshots it seems like they redid the localization as well.

Regional pricing is atrocious though. Wtf Atlus
Those changes are not an excuse for $50 price tag with DLC on top. Mafia remake was $40, C&C Remastered Collection was $20 - both had way more done to them than SMT3 remaster.
 

Mor

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Woe is me.

Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few details conveniently left out of that.
In the past I got an experience with a banned dev (won't give names) and that dev was trying to convince me that they didn't do anything AT ALL (I usually talk about ban waves on Twitter, that's why this one reached me) and OH, SURPRISE, THEY DID.

So yeah, a lot of Twitter moaning but, if you are not a VN, you are most likely hiding something.
 
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Pretty good but ideally you should download them so they hog all your storage space, install any and all mods you see, start up the first level and tweak the settings until the visuals and performance are in perfect harmony. Then never touch it again.
But remember to check the mod pages regularly to keep them up to date, keep the game up to date in steam, maybe fire up the game and let it sit at the menu screen for a few minutes now and then and then quit it without playing so you can watch cat videos on youtube.

For extra points, in between the cat videos you can watch videos of the next game you're going to get... and not play.

Then when you feel bad about not playing any of the games you have you can install a game you've completed a million times and play that instead.
i feel personally attacked!

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It is making me really curious about Seducer 3. I thought it was some kind of goofy Leisure Suite Larry x FMV game, but I guess there is more to it.
Same. After watching Dunkey play Super Seducer, I thought it was just a tongue-in-cheek FMV visual novel type of thing.

I mean...





I haven't played it, though.

Edit: I just realized that Mafia II features an overabundance of photographic depictions of tiddies... So... "real" nudity shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Wok

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Regarding SS3:

We have been 100% co-operative and polite and basically willing to do whatever they wanted. I will post when I have a final answer to whether the game is fully banned, I will have some kind of plan B. People will be able to buy the game somehow, we will just lose 61,000 wish lists and go a little nuts due to the injustice. For now I don't want to Tweet about it or say anything I can't take back in case I can salvage it somehow so this update is just for you guys who check the discussion forum.

We will most likely try to launch on another store on Tuesday, but part of me would rather not release the game at all, or release it for free, than release it and sell a handful of copies. We will think about what to do over the weekend.

We were never given any clear reasons for the denials of the build. The 2 re-submission attempts included basically the fully censored Twitch build and another build with different cuts where we consulted a lawyer and took his advice. At all times I told them that we'd do whatever they needed and whatever it took.
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Those changes are not an excuse for $50 price tag with DLC on top. Mafia remake was $40, C&C Remastered Collection was $20 - both had way more done to them than SMT3 remaster.
I’m comparing a remaster to a port by the same publisher. Not a remaster of a niche game to a remake by arguably the biggest game publisher in the world. If they charged $20 for a port with basically no changes aside from dual audio. What were people expecting they were going to charge for this? A new remaster that adds 4x the languages, new voice dubs, and redone localization (including content that was never localized). $30?

Namco charged $50 for a Ni No Kuni remaster that changed less than P4G. On Switch it was straight up just a $50 port. Square is charging $50-60 each for KH games you can get bundled for $30 on console regularly, despite getting a multimillion dollar paycheck from Epic. Atlus ain’t shit compared to other JP remasters.

Obviously i'm not thrilled about it. The only reason im copping it day 1 is because Fanatical is going to have it with better regional pricing and a 23-25% off pre-order coupon eventually. SMTIII on Steam with achievements is something ive wanted for years. I don't care if I have to pay $50cad for it (discount taken into account.) At least its not $80 like KH. This is just typical JP remaster shit.
 
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Li Kao

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Di grande canone ! Di grande canone !

Is what I hear in my head each time I see Arsene avatar :astonished-face:
 
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Dragon1893

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I'm not gonna defend the regional pricing because it sucks, but considering the work they did on it plus Atlus tax, the Western price is actually in line with what I expected.

P4G on PC was an anomaly for a variety of reasons:
  • Sega probably being overly cautious about how well it'll sell on PC
  • A port of a Vita game (which was full priced when it released)
  • Already cheap to buy on Vita, especially in Europe where NISA published it and pretty much decimated its shelf value in a matter of months
It's not an apples to apples comparison. Nocturne is remaster that has had a lot of work going into it. The whole game has been rebuilt in Unity, they've touched up some of the visuals and redone the localisation by the looks of it. Also take in mind that this isn't a full-priced Atlus game.

I think if this were any other publisher, I'd be expecting it to come in at around £30-£35. Given the Atlus tax (which is part hubris, part confidence), we're looking at £45. A full-priced Atlus game right now is coming in at £55.

It's a steep price if you think about it as a PS2 game, but this remaster has gone beyond being just a port. Plus, because of its difficulty, the audience for a SMT game is far more limited compared to a mainline Persona. Atlus can price Persona games more flexibly to reach more people, but SMT III is only going to sell a fraction of what P4G did on PC regardless of price.

And as always, if the full price is too high for you, wait for a sale. The game will be discounted as soon as it's on GMG/WinGameStore, and if that's still not enough Nocturne's aesthetic lends itself to a 30-50% Halloween Sale discount later in the year.
The price is ridiculous, that's all there's to it.
 

Li Kao

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For the uninitiated :
Unless I’m mistaken, this is a character from Granblue Fantasy, maybe the greatest gacha ever, one that you drop out of burn out and not because of quality. So nostalgia.
And each time this particular motherfucker use his ultimate, he gets a huge riffle out of his pockets and shout ’Di grande canone !’

I’m feeling a peculiar mix of nostalgia and PTSD. Ahhhh, Granblue :thinking-face:

PS’ It’s cool Arsene ! I like your choices of avy. The two most recent one were great.
 
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Im just gonna buy my EA games on Steam anyways. EA Desktop App is such shit it's completely ridicolous. They should just have delayed EA Play via game pass 6 more months or whatever it's gonna take to not make it trash.

When you have gotten used to Steam as a standard for PC gaming, going below that standard feels terrible. I feel I'd rather pay more to not reduce my standards.
 

Swenhir

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I'm too tired to really go into it but 50 bucks for an 18 years-old game is taking the piss, remaster or not. The production cost is laughable compared to nowadays and there's no way it's worth more than 20-30 bucks when all has been considered. Homeworld remastered was far more extensive, included 2 games, was an actual remake that kicked it out of the park and then was supported for 2 bloody years with deep AI and physics reworks.

It cost about 30 bucks at release.

Apologies, but I don't see how this is defensible or justifiable. It's more of that greedy hubris that I've seen these shitty japanese publishers display lately.
 

C-Dub

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The price is ridiculous, that's all there's to it.
You compared it to P4G and I explained why that's a flawed comparison. There are also different considerations to make when pricing a SMT game versus a Persona game.

Plus this is not a late port to PC - this version of the game only came out last year in Japan and PC is getting a simultaneous release with Switch and PS4 in the West.

It's a high price, but that's the Atlus tax. It's still in line with their usual pricing for remasters/remakes of older games such as Strange Journey Redux, Soul Hackers and the Devil Survivor games.

If you're shocked by this then you won't be buying the niche Atlus games going forward. I don't know what else to say.
 

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Should note that I would more readily err on the side of the developer if the game wasn’t centered on pick-up artistry, a practice that I find unpalatable on just about every front. Sucks for the team and the work put in of course. But yeah 😬
 
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