Huh, Turtle Beach made an Xbox (and PC) hotas and it looks kinda nice. Aesthetically it's somewhere between a full Hotas and the ol stick with dodgy throttle you'd never use set up. But it's kinda neat. At the price you could almost go for something like an x52 Pro instead with full size throttle and more inputs etc. but it still has some nice looking features and looks quite high quality. If it went for 99 instead I'd probably have ordered it already, lol, impulse sweet spot. Solid stuff...
The VelocityOne™ Flightstick has an Ultra-smooth main stick that provides precise control, and two multi-function levers control main engine power and a...
eu.turtlebeach.com
I guess I like compact setups, I mean, I almost had my first stick be the Speedlink Black Widow if only it had some more inputs and was a bit higher quality when I was researching hard into budget options, it even had amazing reviews on the likes of Amazon but at the same time seemed prone to defects and stuff, basically the equivalent of Thrustmaster's current cheapo T-Flight Hotas X line or whatever it was called previously but probably of even cheaper build quality.
A joystick for EXTREME users! This joystick was specially designed to meet high demands and offers a robust finish as well as high durability. Vibrations turn the action into a realistic experience.
www.speedlink.com
So in the end I just got a T16000 stick to combine with keyboard play so I'm still missing a throttle piece to get rid of the latter but there's no sweetspot price stuff available, Thrustmaster's equivalent to my budget stick (TWCS throttle) costs like 90-100 by itself, more than the stick for just 1 sliding axis. I don't get it, maybe if it was a twin throttle piece I'd think it's worthwhile. So yeah I've never been satisfied with anything or felt good enough about one to invest in. Except that time I managed to buy a CH Products Combatstick + Pro Throttle for a great price, it was brilliant but seemingly used and defective and the seller was shit and it took ages to get a refund so I never bothered again, now they too are going for much higher prices just because CH sucks with availability I guess. O well.