Community MetaSteam September 2022 | You were expecting Kingdom Hearts, but it’s me Dio(field)!
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The GTX 470 was 350€ literally 1/3rd of the
Well that's Nvidia's plan too. Simultaneously mark up the "4080" series to get the people with too much money to burn to buy the 4090 instead while getting people who are fringe buyers to help buy up the large backstock of 3XXX cards that haven't sold yet, just so they can somewhat drop the price of the 4XXX series cards later on.
EVGA was right to get out of this garbage, imagine selling these cards at $1500 just so they can make a $30 profit while NVIDA continues to keep undercutting the AIBs all the while.
HEY EVERYONE!!!
it's that time again!
it's that time again!
Getting a late start with everything today so I'm not quite sure what we'll be playing yet but we'll figure it out!
And we're now just five days away from our upcoming charity stream. I'm still trying to figure out some good incentives for it but I have a few in mind that should work well.
Highend pc gaming might be in one of its worst states... but pc gaming has never been so diverse and accessible. Valve really did a great thing with the deck.
Not sure if I will continue Axiom Verge 2. The first game was great, but also one of the first new metroidvania games in these "metroidvania indie" era, compared to a ton of others, it kinda feels very outdated. like a very basic metroidvania game and I know that a lot of fans didn't like the sequel.
if you plan to upgrade to a 4090. Take space in mind (like it was 3090ti)
I won't upgrade until something in my current build breaks, it seems.
Come on miners, let's see those cheap 3080 and 3090's.
Great launch discount. $15.99 on Steam, but $12.79 on GMG
I arrived in Lisbon today, got drunk, tryied to ride a eletric scooter, fell down and scratched my arms.... So... That was fun.
Maybe I can find a 3060 while i'm here.
Maybe I can find a 3060 while i'm here.
playing through Submerged: Hidden Depths via the EGS freebie from a few weeks ago; it's not as good as Sable, of course, but it scratches a vaguely similar itch as far as chill, combat-free, streamlined open-world games go, and it's pretty solid if you're looking for something in that vein. I'd skip it if you didn't enjoy the original Submerged, though; traversal and exploration are a bit more involved than I remember the first game getting, but it's definitely an iterative sequel
visited a few months ago, absolutely beautiful city - take a side trip to Sintra if you can
I think AMD half assed their current crop of cards, but before that my 5700XT was a great deal for the money. Probably the last time I’ll have dropped $400 on a brand new mid tier GPU.
The state of Nvidia right now is actually insane:
I got a 3090 MSRP last year and I don't regret it but even if I had a billion dollars tomorrow I wouldn't buy a 4xxx card. Way too expensive, way too much hassle, way too unethical.
- Massive backstock of cards, both Nvidia and their partners produced, which have such tiny profit margins (because of Nvidia) that manufacturers will lose money if they discount them at all (but they'll have to, to move them, eventually). There are also cards that were specifically made for only mining that really can't be resold or if new can't be sold now - just waste and loss
- The new 4xxx cards deliriously expensive for not much purpose
- The 4xxx cards will likely be even bigger with proper cooling instead of whatever junk Nvidia slaps on their own. This also means more power draw, more noise, more heat, all things PC gamers are starting to get picky about
- One of the most trusted partners, EVGA, dropped out completely because Nvidia made it unsustainable for them. Other partners like ASUS could easily drop their GPU branch if they wanted to considering the vast array of other shit they do. That's a lot of guaranteed income Nvidia looses if others jump ship
- You can ALREADY get ~2x 3090 pre-owned for the price or less of the new 4080 16GB. Even if you buy one and it bites the dust after a few months, that's unlikely to happen twice, and you're still ahead. Even more ahead if you don't go for a 3090
I got a 3090 MSRP last year and I don't regret it but even if I had a billion dollars tomorrow I wouldn't buy a 4xxx card. Way too expensive, way too much hassle, way too unethical.
As soon as i pulled the breaks a bit with game purchases, I started purchasing audio books XD yesterday alone I bought like 6-8 audio books because they were on sale for cheap XD from one backlog to another XD
and expect insane power consumption by itself with european energy c
well 3070 founders isn't that big.I mean, my 3070 is 4 slots wide, so I don't see anything wrong with these.
It has to have been that then, yeah. But I was looking at their list of games and thinking ... they seem pretty ok! I definitely approve of them making their legal docs public and not being dicks anymore. So I'm sure they'll rest much easier tonight and going forward knowing I un-ignored them on Steam.
Powerful doesn't mean it has to be big!
These giant power hungry overpowered cards are going too far.
I really think Nvidia have misread the market with these.
I really think Nvidia have misread the market with these.
Return to Monkey Island is exactly what I wanted it to be. I've warmed up to the art style for the most part(Guybrush doesn't look great)... but the music, the voice acting, the story, the humor, the puzzles... It's all amazing. I need to force myself not to binge my way through it because god knows when I'll get another Monkey Island game.
All right let me interject that I wish the Steam event was called Ass Bash and not Bash Bash...Thank you
Despite the price and chunky ass size the 4090 is such a beast. The benchmarks for DLSS3.0 and CP2077 are insane.
That is a card that should straight up do RDR2 and CP2077 @ 1440p + 144fps with high+ settings. And hold that performance locked for the most part I think. That would be a hell of a way to replay those games Can't wait to see the 4k benchmarks for all the other recent/future games with this thing.
That is a card that should straight up do RDR2 and CP2077 @ 1440p + 144fps with high+ settings. And hold that performance locked for the most part I think. That would be a hell of a way to replay those games
Can't wait to see the 4k benchmarks for all the other recent/future games with this thing.The 4080 cards require a 750W PSU minimum, which is the same as the 3080 cards, and may draw up to 320 W.
The 4090 cards require a 850W PSU minimum, which is an increase over the 3090 card, and may draw up to 450 W.
with energy rising insane prices on Europe, this gonna be good.
The 4090 cards require a 850W PSU minimum, which is an increase over the 3090 card, and may draw up to 450 W.
with energy rising insane prices on Europe, this gonna be good.
I will be waiting patiently for the Ti version, but slapping a waterblock on this card since day one is a must. 
? I just saved a thousand dollars
I wanted a 4080. I'll still get one tbh
The first three games has no DLSS, I think.
Here's hoping that AMD's upcoming GPUs are decently priced (The RX 5700 was really solid for the $300 price, and the 6700XT just needed better raytracing performance), or Valve revisits the Steam Machine concept with in-house hardware (outside of the Deck). I'd be absolutely fine with an HTPC setup running the Deck UI though, with none of the nonsense current-gen consoles have and all of the extra bonuses that PC games have (scalability settings, quality of life mods, community patches, forward compatibility, etc).
I've been pretty open about how NVIDIA has practically abandoned the budget GPU market, and how they're continuing to milk the midrange and high-end GPUs to death with exorbitant prices. Can't see myself going back to consoles either (Because of how shoehorned subscription models are, multimedia functionality not being as strong as in the PS3 era, and the insanity that is day one patches and disc installs (I set up a relative's Xbox for them, the process of getting disc games up and running was time consuming, and had to restart installing one of them because the patch download got stuck and failed at one point)). And even if I wanted to go back to consoles, I'd have to give up a ton of things, and even then, you still can't buy a PS5 or XSX at a retail store, nearly three years later.
I remember back when you could buy an entire PC for $450-500 that performed similarly to a PS4 (and later Xbox One X) for a decent price. I doubt even the price difference of not having to pay for online subscriptions will even cover the price increases that NVIDIA has been doing now.
Outside of another golden age of JRPGs, and handheld tech being really impressive, I don't think it's a particularly great time to be into gaming (Unless you are willing to go diving into Steam's curated store to find some diamond indie games).
I've been pretty open about how NVIDIA has practically abandoned the budget GPU market, and how they're continuing to milk the midrange and high-end GPUs to death with exorbitant prices. Can't see myself going back to consoles either (Because of how shoehorned subscription models are, multimedia functionality not being as strong as in the PS3 era, and the insanity that is day one patches and disc installs (I set up a relative's Xbox for them, the process of getting disc games up and running was time consuming, and had to restart installing one of them because the patch download got stuck and failed at one point)). And even if I wanted to go back to consoles, I'd have to give up a ton of things, and even then, you still can't buy a PS5 or XSX at a retail store, nearly three years later.
I remember back when you could buy an entire PC for $450-500 that performed similarly to a PS4 (and later Xbox One X) for a decent price. I doubt even the price difference of not having to pay for online subscriptions will even cover the price increases that NVIDIA has been doing now.
Outside of another golden age of JRPGs, and handheld tech being really impressive, I don't think it's a particularly great time to be into gaming (Unless you are willing to go diving into Steam's curated store to find some diamond indie games).
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And the ones with DLSS are comparing DLSS2 against the DLSS3 frame interpolation thing (including Warhammer and Flight Simulator).
The first three games has no DLSS, I think.
So the real performance of the 4090 is between 50% to 75% higher than the 3090 Ti, 4080 is like mid 20s% higher than the 3090 Ti, and
So now scalper prices are MSRP prices, thanks bitcoin.
Gotta wait for the real reviews for that but probably. Would be interesting to see if the new features on DLSS 3 is locked to the 40 series because of hardware or just arbitrary limitation from the 2/3 series. Maybe fsr 3.0 can copy it and deliver similar performance for all rx/rtx cards. Copium.
I'm sure DLSS 3 needs 40 series to work the same way integer scaling needed 10 series to work.
This is likely part of the plan. The sticker shock of the 40xx series seems designed to push the mass market into scooping up all that sweet, sweet unsold 30xx stock, which I'm sure Nvidia and its partners would just love.
You ain't slick lol
Likewise, I feel pretty validated in pulling the trigger on a 3080 3 months ago.
Play more indies so you don't need a high-end graphic card
I still haven't planned to upgrade from my 1080 Ti. It is 5 years old but still running strong. And I don't play games on my rig these days. Everything goes to the Deck.
Meanwhile, I just checked the price of a 3080 TI and 3090. Not bad at all, honestly. I would definitely choose them over the 40xx cards.
I still haven't planned to upgrade from my 1080 Ti. It is 5 years old but still running strong. And I don't play games on my rig these days. Everything goes to the Deck.
Meanwhile, I just checked the price of a 3080 TI and 3090. Not bad at all, honestly. I would definitely choose them over the 40xx cards.
NVidia's response about DLSS 3 in a reddit AMA:
Now if this is believable or not about the previous architectures, who knows.
Though, I wonder how the frame generation stuff will really look like, can't say I have much faith in frame interpolation looking good in fast paced games.
I tried watching interpolated anime once.
10 minutes was enough to not try this again, ever.
I disable that shit on TVs too.
Not sure what NVIDIA is smoking here.
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