Mid-October according to Noctua's websiteDo we have a release date for this sexy mofo ?
5600x is great. I have it. The 5000 series is newer than the 3000 series so it has some improvements over the older lines.Is a Ryzen 5600x a good buy ? Was tempted to upgrade my 2600x for switch emulation among other things. Still a little pricey for me at 300 euros, but the 3600 seem to do a 2021 and is OOS.
Or should I go 3700x ? Honestly don’t understand why there are 3000 and 5000 lines.
B450 Tomahawk vanilla, it seems it's compatible if I update the bios.5600x is great. I have it. The 5000 series is newer than the 3000 series so it has some improvements over the older lines.
If you think about upgrading make sure your mobo supports it.
I take it I'm a little bit out of my league. I don't plan to change anything and I may have forgotten to write any info beforehand.Quick note and hopefully not required but update the BIOS before you put the chip in! I've seen lots of posts where people had forgotten to update their BIOS in the excitement of a new upgrade.
Might be worth trying the new BIOS soon, make a note of your ram speeds etc or anything else you've changed and give it a whirl. Much better than finding out there's an issue when you've just installed a new CPU and don't know if it's the CPU or BIOS etc.
At a similar price the 5600x is a better purchase compared to the 3700x because the overall performance when completely maxed out is pretty close but if an application can't make full use of all cores and/or benefits heavily from single thread performance (both of those apply to games a lot) the 5600x is faster, sometimes much faster....
Or should I go 3700x ? Honestly don’t understand why there are 3000 and 5000 lines.
You've got me thinking of upgrading my 2700X too... hmmm but reinstalling the AIO will be a pain... not really i'm just lazy and my 2700X is fine for now.
Totally looking at 5600X/5800X tho. Dammit.
There isn't really any major issues with the dual chamber cubes, so long as you an get the cooling right and make sure any GPU/cpu cooler combination will fit properly (assume you're going to get a bigger card down the line), you should be fine.I'm also thinking of going for a smaller form factor this time. I was thinking micro-ATX and getting one of those dual chamber cube-ish kinda case. Any issues or limitations I should be aware of on that front?
Well, Intel Alder Lake is supposedly coming out soon and it’s supposedly the big return of Intel (but that’s Intel pov, so…).
That being said, they may already have issues with some DRM solutions, like Denuvo.
Thanks for the replies. Good to know although I just read a little about the potential issues with DRM and it would be less than ideal for older games to not work on it. Hopefully that's something that will be fixed quickly for most games. Then again, I could just hang on to my current desktop for that, I suppose.Yeah, I think waiting for Alder Lake is worth it. Even in the current market, if the leaks are anything to go by, it should improve the perf/$ situation.
I was thinking more about micro-ATX with that question, sorry if that wasn't clear. I know the smaller form factor means there's less space on the motherboard and that can mean less features/options, so I was worried about potentially overlooking something and ending up limiting my options somehow. I know to look for obvious things like number of RAM slots, m.2 slots, SATA ports, etc, but once you start talking about like... which components use which bus and how they can affect each other, my eyes just sorta glaze over...There isn't really any major issues with the dual chamber cubes, so long as you an get the cooling right and make sure any GPU/cpu cooler combination will fit properly (assume you're going to get a bigger card down the line), you should be fine.
Like, at the high level, I get what you mean, but are you referring to something specific? I know some LGA1200 boards require a certain CPU generation to use NVME slots, and Riser cables/boards can be hit or miss, but I think youre worrying about issues you likely won't run into simply because of the form factor. I've been dealing with AMD mostly in my potential builds, so I can't speak too much to how Intel boards handle thingsThanks for the replies. Good to know although I just read a little about the potential issues with DRM and it would be less than ideal for older games to not work on it. Hopefully that's something that will be fixed quickly for most games. Then again, I could just hang on to my current desktop for that, I suppose.
I was thinking more about micro-ATX with that question, sorry if that wasn't clear. I know the smaller form factor means there's less space on the motherboard and that can mean less features/options, so I was worried about potentially overlooking something and ending up limiting my options somehow. I know to look for obvious things like number of RAM slots, m.2 slots, SATA ports, etc, but once you start talking about like... which components use which bus and how they can affect each other, my eyes just sorta glaze over...
Nothing specific, no. You're probably right and I'm worrying over nothing haha. It's just that when I was researching micro-ATX I read about the limited space on the board thing and it reminded me of something I read a while back when researching SSDs about how (IIRC) an nvme drive could interfere with the GPU in some configurations, something to do with the PCIE bus or whatever. Like I said, that kinda stuff gets a little confusing to me. I mostly just want to make sure there isn't some big obvious thing I'm missing here.Like, at the high level, I get what you mean, but are you referring to something specific? I know some LGA1200 boards require a certain CPU generation to use NVME slots, and Riser cables/boards can be hit or miss, but I think youre worrying about issues you likely won't run into simply because of the form factor. I've been dealing with AMD mostly in my potential builds, so I can't speak too much to how Intel boards handle things
Have you perused pcpartpicker ? It will help alleviate some of the issues youre worried about with warnings if some parts dont play nice (in a majority of system build-related cases)
You mean like this:Nothing specific, no. You're probably right and I'm worrying over nothing haha. It's just that when I was researching micro-ATX I read about the limited space on the board thing and it reminded me of something I read a while back when researching SSDs about how (IIRC) an nvme drive could interfere with the GPU in some configurations, something to do with the PCIE bus or whatever. Like I said, that kinda stuff gets a little confusing to me. I mostly just want to make sure there isn't some big obvious thing I'm missing here.
And yeah, I've made a tentative build on pcpartpicker which I'll tweak as I settle on exactly what I want so at least that should give me a heads up.
Rumors say November 4th. Official is Q4 2021 (mentioned in gamedev guide posted last week, that we got Denuvo/DRM stuff from).One thing I don’t get about Alder Lake is… has it been delayed ? I don’t follow hardware release so I’m a complete noob, but IIRC it was a release for the end of 2021. But there isn’t much 2021 left.
So what ? Has it been delayed ? Or do these things tend to be shadow dropped like, ‘here goes’ ?
From what research I did when I was putting my new machine together, the numbers are pretty similar among 240mm aio, it comes down to tubing, mounting, and their ease of use for a given cooler. You could probably squeeze a 240mm in on the left side. 120mm might fit better, but you might sacrifice some cooling if youre rocking a 11900 or a 5950xIs there any particular make / model AIO cpu water cooler i should go for or are they pretty similar? Re-building my PC into a smaller case (i got that SilverStone SST-GD09B case) and dont really want to rebuild a water loop so thought an AIO would be alright?
This project turned out to be a big disappointment. I bought the display through a well-known company that sells electronics through the internet, but it turns out that they contract other companies to sell some of their products, including the display in question. The display was sold at a 12% temporary discount compared to most other offers, but it was too good to be true. The contracted company seems more and more like some kind of scam shop. They claim that my display was posted the day after I ordered it 2021-10-18, but no tracking information has been posted, and they basically just said "be calm and wait" without posting any tracking information when I contacted support. Now that I look at customer feedback for the contracting company people are screaming "scam" and doll out 0/5 ratings.I made the wreckless and unnecessary decision to buy the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 two days ago, despite buying another premium ultrawide (PG35VQ) a little more than a year ago. Has been sent to me and will probably be delivered on friday. I think I will enjoy the new display, but it will be painful to be reminded of how much money I wasted on the other display when I use my mac mini.
Yes, it is a horrible experience to shred your cuticles on a CPU heat sink while worrying that you will apply too much pressure and break the motherboard when you are trying to reach the hidden release switchWhy does not every motherboard have PCIe release button? Seems so obvious in hindsight.
Unless I’m mistaken, that’s unrelated to CPU though ? But on a related note, isn’t the whole installation of CPU and Heatsink simpler on Intel in some ways ? Vaguely remember it’s less shitty than on AMD.Yes, it is a horrible experience to shred your cuticles on a CPU heat sink while worrying that you will apply too much pressure and break the motherboard when you are trying to reach the hidden release switch
I think that's really brand dependent. If the cooler uses the mobo-supplied backplate, it's almost too easy.Unless I’m mistaken, that’s unrelated to CPU though ? But on a related note, isn’t the whole installation of CPU and Heatsink simpler on Intel in some ways ? Vaguely remember it’s less shitty than on AMD.
Depends on your definition of notable.Will the i9-12900K with DDR5 memory be a notable upgrade for high frame rate gaming compared with the i9-9900K?
Just to not fool people, the ASUS motherboard does not work with the Noctua cooler after checking compatibility information.I am considering this build at the moment (GPU would be my Geforce RTX 3090 from my existing computer):
CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 5,2GHz (cost saving with the KF model is insignificant)
RAM: 2*16 Gb Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 5200MHz (the release date for the g skill modules seems to be uncertain)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI (PCIE release button seems nice and good to have 4 M2 slots, "E" model seems pointless)
CPU fan: Noctua NH-D15 (have to order motherboard conversion kit free of charge from noctua)
Chassi fans: 3 Noctua NF-A14-PWM (will only fit 2x 140 mm front fans and one 1x 140 mm back fan if you close off the PSU compartment)
Chassi: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Black Solid (airflow seems great, and I like the look)
PSU: Corsair RM850X V2 850W (more expensive models don't seem to add anything of value to me)
Would cost 2000 euro. Maybe a bit more if I buy a couple of extra M2 drives ...
Which LGA 1700 motherboards are you considering?FWIW, I'm considering the same upgrade, but not primarily for gaming.
I haven't looked into it in detail yet, but currently I'm partial towards the ASUS Prime Z690-A. It's not too silly in terms of pricing, and I like its layout and the set of connectivity it provides.Which LGA 1700 motherboards are you considering?
The only issue you would run into has more to do with which slot is the faster of the two m.2slots. So you might need to swap them around to pull the best speed from your gen4, but as durante said, they wont fight each other.Anyone got any experience of mixing Gen3 and Gen4 NVMes?
I currently run Windows off a Gen3 NVMe but I'm thinking of putting Gen4 SSDs in my other two M.2 slots - will I get the full speed off of those Gen4 drives despite having a Gen3 installed, and despite the fact that Windows is running off a Gen3? I don't want to have to do a Windows re-install to one of the Gen4 drives if I don't have to.
Yeah I don’t mind looking into that. I’ve got three NVMe sockets and I think they’re all Gen4, but I will look into it.The only issue you would run into has more to do with which slot is the faster of the two m.2slots. So you might need to swap them around to pull the best speed from your gen4, but as durante said, they wont fight each other.
3 nvme? What board do you have?Yeah I don’t mind looking into that. I’ve got three NVMe sockets and I think they’re all Gen4, but I will look into it.
Why did you choose that motherboard?After watching/reading several reviews and benchmarks, I decided on my CPU + Motherboard upgrade: