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I'd VShojo are the most well known Twitch VTubers and their youtube content is basically a VOD archive. Miko has regular Twitch streams, Pekora has been streaming there too and now has over 100k followers. Aqua does watchalongs on Twitch.

Tsunderia and Phase Connect have Twitch based VTubers and people like Tenma who are mainly youtube will run Twitch streams now and then too.

Non from PRISM has taken to using Twitch for some of her content and it's handy because youtube is back to being a total asshole at the moment and randomly demonetising people, some having issues even starting streams and other having thei view counts slashed. Sussy baka, youtube.

My housemate has ended up watching some channels where the girls have moved from face-cams to using an avatar instead. So even he has ended up inadvertently watching Virtual streamers which amuses me greatly.


Shigure Ui wanted a nice winter outfit. Her first problem was enlisting chat to help.


it's still cute tho.
 
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Well, talking of Twitch and collabs... Petra & Nina, Froot from VShojo and two other indie? VTubers are having a collab today playing Prop Hunt so it should be a good laugh.



Froot is fun and Bri'ish, i don't know Vienna from C9 (Cloud 9) and i think AmaLee is known as a VSinger.
All are ENVtubers.
 
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It should be a good time. I like Froot, Petra and Nina. I was right, AmaLee is a VSinger who does english language covers of Anisongs and has 1.9M subs and i'll check out a couple of Vienna's streams if i can before the stream or i watch the VOD.


Currently watching Amiya blitzing through Jet Set Radio. Good fun and she cleared one level with 0:00 on the clock. It was mad.


Unfortunately, Pina from PRISM may have contracted Covid over the holidays. We are all still waiting for the delayed test results and hoping it's just a seasonal cold but either way she will be taking a streaming hiatus while she recovers. I hope she's okay. She's one of my favorite VTubers and online personalities ever and one of the ones i'm really glad to have discovered. Rest well, Pina! We'll be waiting for her return.

So let's have some happy thoughts as one of the Penpals commisioned this after Pina said she loves Marine, Subaru and Pekora recently.
 
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I'm kinda like researching the Twitch streamers, and in general they all seem a bit more adult/mature oriented? (Not sure how else to put it). Which i guess has me wondering if like maybe Youtube has strict guidelines or something? Like i know Melody couldn't work on Youtube lol for uhm, obvious reasons... but like Veibae isn't doing porn streams but still marks all hers as 18+...

Independent ones also, like Snuffy. Just in general the Twitch tubers seem to be a bit more... lewd(?) i guess lol. So I start to wonder if some of the Vtubers will be branching to Twitch, maybe it is because rules are too tight on youtube?
 

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I'm kinda like researching the Twitch streamers, and in general they all seem a bit more adult/mature oriented? (Not sure how else to put it). Which i guess has me wondering if like maybe Youtube has strict guidelines or something? Like i know Melody couldn't work on Youtube lol for uhm, obvious reasons... but like Veibae isn't doing porn streams but still marks all hers as 18+...

Independent ones also, like Snuffy. Just in general the Twitch tubers seem to be a bit more... lewd(?) i guess lol. So I start to wonder if some of the Vtubers will be branching to Twitch, maybe it is because rules are too tight on youtube?
Yeah Twitch is less restricted with that sort of things, like Youtube in theory can demonetize you over swear words (I think they might have loosen the rules, but in general one of the positive things I heard about Twitch is "you can swear as much as you want"), I don't know where the line is on Twitch since I don't watch them much, and I'm not really into that kind of humor (I don't mind them, just I didn't like whenever it happens you get some weird comments coming out of the woodwork I'd like to not read).
 
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Holo EN New Year's outfits announced!



Operated by COVER Corporation (Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo; CEO: Tanigo Motoaki), VTuber group hololive English -Myth- and -Council- will be unveiling new outfits in livestreams on their YouTube channels on January 8th and 15th (PST), 2022!

In their reveal streams, they will be greeting their viewers in elegant sets of kimonos. If you have the chance, please join us in cheering on the members of hololive English as they celebrate the new year in style!

The reveal schedule is as follows:

Takanashi Kiara: January 8th @ 1:00 PM (PST)
Ninomae Ina’nis: January 8th @ 1:30 PM (PST)
Gawr Gura: January 8th @ 2:00 PM (PST)
Watson Amelia: January 8th @ 2:30 PM (PST)
Mori Calliope: January 8th @ 3:00 PM (PST)

Tsukumo Sana: January 15th @ 1:00 PM (PST)
Ceres Fauna: January 15th @ 1:30 PM (PST)
Ouro Kronii: January 15th @ 2:00 PM (PST)
Nanashi Mumei: January 15th @ 2:30 PM (PST)
Hakos Baelz: January 15th @ 3:00 PM (PST)

Meanwhile, we regret to announce that we are postponing the outfit reveal of Project: Hope. After a thorough discussion with IRyS, we believe that we can polish the outfit further to match our resounding VSinger. We are looking forward to presenting it to you in a future opportunity.
Sucks about IRyS but understandable. I always felt that her design was slightly too complicated for its own good.
 
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Mutant Strawberry oooohhhh, ya beat me again. lol. I was just typing up when you posted. ha.

Myth are rolling in outfits now. Shame that IRyS can't join the reveal with the others but i'm sure it'll be worth the wait.


In other news Zentreya bodies Mysta on twitter. Poor bloke is being ROFL stomped by everyone.
( image swiped from PRISMcord again )
 
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Posting early so you don't forget! Hololive 2022 New Year's Mario Kart 8DX Tournament - 4am GMT!
Tons of last minute race practise going on. Recently ID & EN have mainly been talking about the Kuso Cup.
Depending on which group you are in it's gonna be super-tough for them but you never know. A good consistant set of result will really help.



More importantly ... AZKi's first singing stream of 2022! 1pm GMT!


⚒♥


My Kiryu Coco hoody and badge turned up this morning.
Next package is the Holomyth Hoody and cup set in Feb/March i think.
 
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Watame MV just premiered

Wow, Watame, just wow, that's an amazing MV.


AZKi just said she is discussing with Hololive music division regarding future activities when she moves to Hololive in April.
I hope she continues to concentrate on music but also streams a bit more. I think she'll appear in more collabs and hopefully she can continue to collab with artists outside Hololive such as I've Sound etc I also hope she is allowed to continue to arrange events like "Non-Stop Music" and i can't see why not.

I hope she can get more exposure being seen as part of Hololive officially. Anyone who follows AZKi knows she often goes silent for long periods and then returns with a new EP or album so i hope new viewers can understand that's just how she is. Let's see where this journey takes us!

Awww, AZKi's singing "Again by Yui", Pina always sings this. Get well soon, Pina!


Talking of Watame, she's just had a haircut. Looks nice.
 
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Ina's perspective on the MK training today:

Especially the segment where she was in a team of 3 with Subaru and Bae was absolutely hilarious.
 

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Ame's Birthday was great and imaginative and scary. buff Ame ffs! lol
Here's the book that Teamates put together for her.

Here's Buff Ame...
 
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Watched streams, snoozed for 2 hours, watched prelims, fell asleep during 30 minute break before finals, wake up at 10am, miss dentist appointment AND finals. DOH!


Kizuna AI new cover track.


Boogey Pop premiere of their God-ish cover just now.

Great track that is really tricky to sing.


Did i just miss it before or has Hololive Error just been made available for download?


edit: looks like it's new - i just saw the reddit post 27 mins ago.
Hololive Error - Free PC game - 1.1gb - JP Only - Reddit thread
Woohoo, how's that for checking a site randomly. yay.
 
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I did not get the chance to watch her much, but apparently Sumi Ushio is graduating soon on January 20th after her debut in Prism Project Gen 4.

It has only been about 2ish months since she debuted, so it is pretty sudden

 

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Sumi bamboozled us. She said it was a happy, fun announcement stream but it's not, it's her graduation from PRISM Project.
Damn, i really liked her but best wishes for the future, Sumi. It was fun while it lasted.

edit: Dammit, i was grabbing the stream with subs with my message ready to go when ExistentialThought posted, lol

I watched a lot of Sumi, she was very chill, except when she wasn't and we were having adventures and laughs.
We're going to miss her. I was actually able to watch her because of her stream times as they were fairly EU friendly and i could watch them while working.

We spotted the "G......n" in faded letters in the thumbnail and wondered if it was graduation but in her Genshin stream she said it would be a "fun announcement" so we kind of put that out of our thoughts and then when i saw all the PRISM Agents in pre-chat i realised there's a good chance she was leaving.
 
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Sumi bamboozled us. She said it was a happy, fun announcement stream but it's not, it's her graduation from PRISM Project.
Damn, i really liked her but best wishes for the future, Sumi. It was fun while it lasted.

edit: Dammit, i was grabbing the stream with subs with my message ready to go when ExistentialThought posted, lol

I watched a lot of Sumi, she was very chill, except when she wasn't and we were having adventures and laughs.
We're going to miss her. I was actually able to watch her because of her stream times as they were fairly EU friendly and i could watch them while working.
Yeah, she was my most watched of Gen 4, but admittedly it is tricky for me to catch her streams since she also overlapped with JP holomems for me in the mornings. I hope the reason she is graduating is a positive reason, but it really seems so sudden.
 

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Yeah, she was my most watched of Gen 4, but admittedly it is tricky for me to catch her streams since she also overlapped with JP holomems for me in the mornings. I hope the reason she is graduating is a positive reason, but it really seems so sudden.
Yeah, i'll have to rewatch it to see if i can remember what she said but effectively it was "Thanks for 5k subscribers... i'm graduating on the 20th,", it seems like she has to go back home and won't be able to stream but it also seems like she has something good going on that she seemed cheerful about so i don't know. Oh well, It was great fun and i'll try to catch her streams from now until the 20th.

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PRISM just announced Sumi's graduation. It's official.
 
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I've got that VOD to look forward to tomorrow. I've been watching Amiya finish Resident Evil remake and now i'm ready for some sleep after having a crazy disrupted sleep pattern due to Mario Kart Torunament earlier.

I'll leave you all with this mashup.


Pekora and Botan's Welcoming Tour for HoloX first HoloJP Server visit.
 
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Rita does a posh Bri'ish accent after being pushed by Mista Ryas of NijiEN who was in her Membership opening stream.
You may need to bump your volume up a bit as Rita tends to stream a little quietly for me on speakers.

I hope this is an indicator of PRISM Project getting more attention. I know Shiki has collabs with Finana with one recently so they are getting out there and seeing Mista in Rita's chat, that's a super good thing for exposure.
There's a group of agencies that get along well like PRISM, Phase Connect & Tsunderia together with indies like Reiny & Obake PAM so it's good there's a feeling of a circle of friends helping each other along. Hopefully a bit of a bump from bigger talents can help them out.


Sometimes i think Rosemi is doing a "bit" with her naivety and other times i'm 100% certain she isn't.



Someone already mentioned Gura's Madgabs section but here's a highlight clip. It was indeed great and made even better when Bae turned up.
 
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New Year's Costumes for Holomyth tonight!
Starting 9pm GMT - 2022/01/08



Followed by Full Holomyth Collab on Kiara's channel
 
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excited for Kroniimono, i think i can catch it live.

i been knocked out cold for 2 days now. mostly stuck in bed. I thought my virus was peaking a few days ago... but no lol. Now though, now i'm starting to heal up i think. Well my head hurts a little less and my nose calmed down anyway. So... progress!!

uhm i was mostly delirious while in bed, but i continued my research of the Twitch tubers as best i could. Never had a twitch account before so had to make one. I learned that since I'm already Amazon prime member i also get Twitch prime at no additional cost so that is cool. I forget which night it was but I watched Snuffy play modded Skyrim, but like it also had some sorta twitch integration. We could vote to spawn enemies, or a pack of 30 NPC's lol, drop 100 cheese wheels on her head, or randomly teleport her somewhere. ... It was funny and chaotic as hell.

So actually my first time trying a Twitchtuber was really good. There is a certain level of interaction you kinda don't get on Youtube either. Since as you watch a Twitch Stream you get like, uhm points I guess and you can use those points to play sounds, highlight messages, give snacks or throw stuff at Snuffy lol. (And her model reacts to all of this; as seen here.)


anyway back to being sick and trying to rest lol. (Edit: oh idk why it age restricted, maybe language)

Edit Edit: About Rosemi being naive, it 100% isn't a bit lol. Watch some of her just-chatting streams or follow her on Twitter and she is just... Rosemi is innocent and a ditz lol.
 
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Oh, yeah. I've seen them which is why i suspected it wasn't a "bit" as she's too consistent with it but i just had to wonder aloud in case other people had a view too.

HoloMyth New Year's Kimono Relay starts soon!

I started watching this as a clip but i'll be restarting the stream and watching it tomorrow for sure. Pippa from Phase Connect gets bullied by chat while playing Project Zomboid. I can see how Pippa and Tenma get along so well but if you try bullying Tenma like that she'll mess you up.
 

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i'm glad Ina's kimono is a bit more subdued compared to the usual Kuroboshi style. I was worried we'd be slapped with 100 ribbons and frills again. 😅

edit: oh... it dawns on me, that Council won't debut kimono until next week. orz
 
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I wondered how you knew you could catch Council live when their schedule wasn't up yet.
I think all the Myth reveals and kimonos have been great. Each is different yet really, really nice.
Gura's reveal was fricking amazing though, that girl knows how to play her audience just right.

Calli with the spontaneous Sakura Days, thanks K's!
edit: oh a custom "Off with their heads", too
 

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this head cold has me absolutely out of it lol. :dizzy-face:

but yes, all the Myth kimono are great! (I haven't seen Gura's yet.) It's also dawning on me that she's the only myth I don't have followed on Twitter. 😓 Good grief i'm so all over the place.
 

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HoloMyth Original MV debut today on HoloEN channel


Seems like the success and popularity of "Myth or Treat" was the big thing to show management that Myth can be allowed to get on with things as they see fit so we can expect more original stuff from them in the future.

Kiara just joked "Aren't you guys relieved it's not merchandise!", lol

Calli is also arranging a small Pokemon tournament for 17th Jan which is the day before the new games come out.
 
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Reiny Prop Night collab at 2pm GMT with Non & Naki from PRISM, Liliana and Virion
Virion is a french VTuber that Non and Naki call "Ryan" because TTS mangles his name. They usually bully him something rotten, lol.



I love when Americans are exposed to British slang, lol!

 
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Hachi having a looooong singing stream. wow.
edit: Ended up with 71 songs. Wow, Hachi.



Non is playing with James Charles voice changer again in the Reiny collab and explaining how she got bonked by youtube yesterday. That was mad, she's done 16 hour cursed streams where at one point she read Metamorphosis with sound effects and got other visiting VTubers to collab, read out "How to live with a large penis" the other day, read "How to live with a large carrot" but yesterday when she was reading Shrek fan-fic was when youtube bonked her and banned the stream. lol.
 
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I missed this but the team that made the "Fleeting Time" Gura and Ame animation released this on Christmas Eve.



Wow, Pomu has been BUSY! She has a new Poom Guy stream where she plays Plutonia and i'll be watching that later on for sure and she also had a "Running to 200k" VR Chat stream following it. Pomu has done a couple of fitness streams lately and Pina is thinking of having regular low level exercise streams with chat exercising along with her too. They'll obviously have to wait until Pina returns, Get Well Soon, Pina!

 

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"Elira come pick me up I don't wanna be here anymore" :ROFLMAO:

Rosemi + Can openers has me rolling. My goodness gracious girl. And this happened today when she came home from work too.


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Leaving some funnies for today.



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Started the day with Vei playing Fable Anniversary, than Nyanners being weird, and now Apricot doing Apex. She has such a pretty voice. I think she got raided by Pikamee and Nyanners both so far lol.

I want to end the day with Kronii VoD later. But I don't like to play story heavy games and watch streamer at same time. So it will depend what i do for the rest of the night...
 

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FYI This weekend is a BUSY weekend!

The Council get their New Year's Outfits/Kimonos!

Stellux Agency debut their first gen - Constellation - Capricorn

Details in description...


Synthion - A music producer/singer has their VTuber debut on Friday.


I just heard that Yumeno Lilith has had her contract with Noripro terminated. She had appeared with Chocco so i figured some of you may be interested.
I've spoilered them so they don't expand to take the whole page.
 

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Pika briefly talked about people not liking twitch last night, all our complaining reached her I guess, lol.

But since she's aware of it, maybe she'll do something to groom the chat a bit moving forward to make it a better experience for her fans, it's honestly not too bad when she's streaming games.

Also Pika got an index, good time to recommend her some games!
 
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From Pekora's birthday countdown stream:



There was no live translator in the stream, so I'm not sure about this, but, seems like the first pic are some of the guests for tomorrow?
I can see Korone on the left and Subaru on the right, but I really can't tell who's in the middle.
The 2nd pic, from what I saw others saying on twitter, seems like Pekora's 3D model is gonna be upgraded? (tweets saying New 3D?)
 

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Pika briefly talked about people not liking twitch last night, all our complaining reached her I guess, lol.

But since she's aware of it, maybe she'll do something to groom the chat a bit moving forward to make it a better experience for her fans, it's honestly not too bad when she's streaming games.

Also Pika got an index, good time to recommend her some games!
Honestly the Twitch girls have grown on me A LOT. Here is my sublist and how it has grown in less than a week's time.



And as a platform, I haven't found it too overbearing on second inspection here. Most of them enable slowmode for chat and have moderators also. Communities in general have been nice and easy to follow things. Compared to say Hololive where I don't even bother to read chat because it moves so fast no human could possibly parse it in any meaningful manner. So idk, it's been very fun.

One thing I noted also is like... Twitch streams are less... structured? More freedom, less rules, and less walking on eggshells. It's refreshing in a different kinda way. Such is the benefit of being independent or in VShojo's case putting the streamer first I suppose.
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Because i know there's some Kronies here...
I have complete faith in Wada Arco sensei. I am beyond familiar with his work thanks to FATE and he doesn't have a bad design to his name. 🙏
Kronii is in good hands.
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And as a platform, I haven't found it too overbearing on second inspection here. Most of them enable slowmode for chat and have moderators also. Communities in general have been nice and easy to follow things. Compared to say Hololive where I don't even bother to read chat because it moves so fast no human could possibly parse it in any meaningful manner. So idk, it's been very fun.

One thing I noted also is like... Twitch streams are less... structured? More freedom, less rules, and less walking on eggshells. It's refreshing in a different kinda way. Such is the benefit of being independent or in VShojo's case putting the streamer first I suppose.
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I think hololive's chat just moves too fast in general, Pikamee's is fine for games on twitch but she doesn't seem to have nightbot enabled, so the emoji spams and all the yelling can get bad, her YT chat is a lot better but that can be improved.

Twitch doesn't require them to make thumbnails either so they can just stream unprepared and just do whatever, with the downside that VODs don't last long like they do on youtube. Some only archive the story related game streams and the rest gets deleted.

All in all it's still a personal preference and they make their money on twitch, a lot of streamers wish they could do as well as them there, so while several people did voice concerns, I'm not sure if it's too appropriate, of every 1 or 2 people that don't like twitch, there are probably 5 who likes it and willing to spend there instead. Asking them to not stream (as much) on 1 platform might just be asking them to make a decision that affect them financially.

Edit: in Pikamee's case, she's a bit different than Vshojo talents, since she originally started out on Youtube, her devoting half of her time on twitch don't really bring benefit to fans that joined her youtube membership to show support, they'll need to double dip if they want the perks on another platform, but the same could be said for twitch audiences that pay to subscribe to her, they don't get membership perks on youtube either, and maybe unfair to them if Pikamee suddenly focus on youtube again primarily, but that's the current dilemma of catering to 2 groups of audiences.
 
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Now that I am saving 12USD a month on Humble, time to member to more vtubers




Edit: in Pikamee's case, she's a bit different than Vshojo talents, since she originally started out on Youtube, her devoting half of her time on twitch don't really bring benefit to fans that joined her youtube membership to show support, they'll need to double dip if they want the perks on another platform, but the same could be said for twitch audiences that pay to subscribe to her, they don't get membership perks on youtube either, and maybe unfair to them if Pikamee suddenly focus on youtube again primarily, but that's the current dilemma of catering to 2 groups of audiences.
This has been my issue and it is definitely ultimate petty problems (Like I am not losing sleep over it haha), but I have YT Premium membership and I member to a few folks in a show of support (at least until their merch becomes available, except for Rosemi-sama, who I stay membered to regardless.) A few folks streaming on both platforms makes it trickier to follow their content AND makes it so I have to decide if I want to member to them on either YT or Twitch. Twitch usually loses out since their ad changes many, many months ago. I just typically move my free Prime sub around, like this month it is veibae.
 
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This has been my issue and it is definitely ultimate petty problems (Like I am not losing sleep over it haha), but I have YT Premium membership and I member to a few folks in a show of support (at least until their merch becomes available, except for Rosemi-sama, who I stay membered to regardless.) A few folks streaming on both platforms makes it trickier to follow their content AND makes it so I have to decide if I want to member to them on either YT or Twitch. Twitch usually loses out since their ad changes many, many months ago. I just typically move my free Prime sub around, like this month it is veibae.
Yeah with how little I watch other vtubers I think it's an easy choice for me, I don't mind double dip and subscribe to Twitch, just a little weird since I'm now watching the same streamer but split across 2 platforms, and with Twitch being tied to Amazon and without the Youtube/google play payment options and regional pricing, it's a bit of a hassle, it's no problem for me if I have to switch between the two, but just hoping if she gets into the partnership stuff it won't affect her youtube streaming, but at the end it really depends on which platform she likes more.

I heard twitch has some really extensive moderation tools/commands, among other things, with slow mode and modbots I'm sure chat will be much more manageable, not to mention much better discovery system for exposure, whether it's for her or other vtubers she decide to raid.