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I tried Streets of Rage 4 again and it's a lot better than I remembered at launch, it's a lot of fun to play now. I saw there were balancing updates so that might be it, only tried with Cherry though, maybe the other characters still suck :p

Game looks nice though.

Edit: Well I bought One Piece Odyssey, hope it runs alright, now I'll have 3 unfinished JRPGs.
 
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I started P5R and to continue my love hate relationship with the deck, let me say, what the fuck at the IQ ! The text is aliased as fuck. Or, let’s not hyperbole, just aliased enough to be noticeable.
With every setting maxed out I‘m not sure it can be helped, and that’s a bummer. Tried 200% rendering scale and that just didn’t seem to do much.

To be perfectly fair, I also wasn’t impressed by the IQ at 1440p on desktop. Too much aliasing.

On the bright side, like P4G, it could be an incredible way of playing through this beast of a game ! But at ‘only’ 4,8 hours I’m still far from the time I would consider ‘out of tutorial’.
 

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I started P5R and to continue my love hate relationship with the deck, let me say, what the fuck at the IQ ! The text is aliased as fuck. Or, let’s not hyperbole, just aliased enough to be noticeable.
With every setting maxed out I‘m not sure it can be helped, and that’s a bummer. Tried 200% rendering scale and that just didn’t seem to do much.

To be perfectly fair, I also wasn’t impressed by the IQ at 1440p on desktop. Too much aliasing.

On the bright side, like P4G, it could be an incredible way of playing through this beast of a game ! But at ‘only’ 4,8 hours I’m still far from the time I would consider ‘out of tutorial’.
Set the Steam Deck to render the game at 1080p and then set that as the in-game resolution. That fixed the issue for me. I also didn’t notice any significant battery impact by doing this (maybe 10 minutes less or so).

As for desktop, there is a high DPI option you need to configure in the .exe’s properties in Windows to get it rendering right.

I can’t remember the exact steps but there’s a tutorial on the Steam Community for the game.
 
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Set the Steam Deck to render the game at 1080p and then set that as the in-game resolution. That fixed the issue for me. I also didn’t notice any significant battery impact by doing this (maybe 10 minutes less or so).

As for desktop, there is a high DPI option you need to configure in the .exe’s properties in Windows to get it rendering right.

I can’t remember the exact steps but there’s a tutorial on the Steam Community for the game.
Was the desktop solution to use Special K ? Hope not, I'm not familiar with it at all.
The other solution is to put Windows DPI scaling at 100% but, bruhs, I'm 44 ffs. This is tiny !

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Talked too soon, as usual. There is a windows option to tick in the exe properties.
 

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Was the desktop solution to use Special K ? Hope not, I'm not familiar with it at all.
The other solution is to put Windows DPI scaling at 100% but, bruhs, I'm 44 ffs. This is tiny !

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Talked too soon, as usual. There is a windows option to tick in the exe properties.
The tick option in Windows properties sorts it, as you said. I can’t remember the exact setting, but I fixed that issue without using SK.

Hopefully you get it sorted on your Deck too.
 
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There's a mod to fix Still Alive for Portal on the Deck:


Never actually tried Portal on Deck nor played the port, so not sure what they changed, guessing interface stuff.
 
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Having spent about a dozen hours with One Piece Odyssey on Steam Deck (on the default Proton version), I will be surprised if it isn’t Steam Deck Verified by Valve in the near future or when they get around to testing it.
 

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I'm thinking about getting one of these. Main reasons are:
1. testimonials where people say they have been playing way more games than they would without it
2. ???

I don't have a real use case for needing a handheld system specifically. But I do have a big backlog and games I love that I'd like to play again, and so on. If the form factor of the Deck helps me play more, it would be worth it. So, for those who play more on the Deck, why? What makes it more motivating/enjoyable to play on the Deck than to use your desktop? I really like builder and factory games, but it seems like not having the big desktop monitor for those kinds of games might not be ideal? Also, a large proportion of my game library is unsupported (Dark Souls, really?). But enough of it is Verified/Playable, and I don't mind tinkering.

I'm concerned about its size. I have a Switch for Nintendo exclusives, and If just hold it with the joycons and play, I'm guaranteed to get wrist pain. So, I use my favorite old 8bitdo SN30 controller with it. I also use a small fold-out stand for the Switch, so I don't have to balance it awkwardly on whatever's available. So I'd probably like to play the Deck like this as well. If it doesn't fit in the Switch stand, I guess I could get the dock?
 
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Pros with the deck:

  • Literally play anywhere, In the sofa, in your bed etc
  • The Deck is relatively small (as compared to taking a laptop to the above mentioned places)
  • The Deck boots really quickly compared to other computers, so you don't spend as much time fiddling around,
    • Also, there's a sleep mode (that I personally don't bother much with, since it boots so quickly)
  • Often (at least for Verified of Playable games), the controls are adapted to the Deck to feel comfortable
    • If they aren't, make your own controller configs to make it play exactly how you want!
  • A lot of games are totally playable on the Deck, even if they haven't received their rating yet.

Cons:

  • Battery time can be low for AAA games (sub 2 hours at worst I believe)
    • But at the same time, if you turn down the graphical settings, you can often squeeze out a few hours more on the same games
    • And on that "small" screen, graphical quality is not necessarily the thing you want to maximize.
  • Tinkering with game settings and Deck settings is required for the step above
    • But not necessary for all games
    • And you quickly learn what to do, to get games to play how you want them to.
  • Mouse heavy games that require quick reaction times (for example RTS) might be a bit hard to play on the Deck.
 

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I'm thinking about getting one of these. Main reasons are:
1. testimonials where people say they have been playing way more games than they would without it
2. ???

I don't have a real use case for needing a handheld system specifically. But I do have a big backlog and games I love that I'd like to play again, and so on. If the form factor of the Deck helps me play more, it would be worth it. So, for those who play more on the Deck, why? What makes it more motivating/enjoyable to play on the Deck than to use your desktop? I really like builder and factory games, but it seems like not having the big desktop monitor for those kinds of games might not be ideal? Also, a large proportion of my game library is unsupported (Dark Souls, really?). But enough of it is Verified/Playable, and I don't mind tinkering.

I'm concerned about its size. I have a Switch for Nintendo exclusives, and If just hold it with the joycons and play, I'm guaranteed to get wrist pain. So, I use my favorite old 8bitdo SN30 controller with it. I also use a small fold-out stand for the Switch, so I don't have to balance it awkwardly on whatever's available. So I'd probably like to play the Deck like this as well. If it doesn't fit in the Switch stand, I guess I could get the dock?
People playing more games probably has to do with the sleep feature mentioned in Momo's post, I mean you can alt-tab and stuff on PC too but kinda not really the same if you have to use your PC for work, or need to do something else, AAA games generally have a lot of cutscenes and other junk, you can just put it on sleep in the middle of them instead of having to wait, and can do them later, so there's the feeling that you need less commitment playing on the deck and can just pick it up whenever.

Other things include the thing having a small screen makes you care less about image quality because you just can't really see these things compared to a giant display where low res textures or whatever stick out like a sore thumb, but games also look great on a small screen at the same time because of that, so people find more appreciations with older games as well.

All in all, Steam deck is kind of just a computer but in handheld form, so it comes with all the technical hurdles of a PC and depends largely on what you think about handheld and how much you prefer to play on a desktop, but it's much better to hold on your hands than a switch so there's that (it's also bigger).

One more thing is that while this thing is a Linux machine that you need some technical knowledge to get the most out of, the community does a good job making some of the stuff much more accessible than on Windows, for example installing emulators is incredibly easy (outside of knowing how to get the bios you needed for these things) where people came up with softwares that automate most of the progress for you, I'm just now going back to playing Metroid Prime I never got to because I no longer want to hook up my old consoles, nor want to go set things up on my PC, but it's pretty easy on the Deck and the Steam Deck controls are great.
 

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I work from home and sit at my desktop hours a day. The Deck is good for me since the idea of sitting at my desk even more is annoying (and one reason why I steered back into console gaming the past few years). I also have a massive library of console-like games on my Steam account (platformers, JRPGs, etc) that I am not too interested in playing at the desk, but enjoy a lot on Deck. I'm probably a niche case, but the Steam Deck fits my niche perfectly. If Valve makes a Steam Controller 2.0, I would probably look into getting a mini PC with SteamOS so I could have a Steam Console.
 
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Yeah, emulation is a big draw, too. I could potentially just get rid of my Switch. I like the simplicity of consoles and comfy couch gaming, but I completely stopped buying any 3rd party games on consoles years ago -- it's just not worth losing them over time due to backward compatibility. And even if there's compatibility, who wants all these old devices laying around? What a pain in the ass. So Deck may also bridge that gap.

I sure wish it were possible to audition this thing in person, but it sounds like the huge size of it is fine. I like that it's so customizable in terms of controls, but maybe that means my little bluetooth controller won't work quite as well with a Deck.
 
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Honestly the controller part of Steam Deck is actually a selling point, I use the kick stand on the Switch because a pro controller is better, but for Deck I just use the steam deck controller instead.
 
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hmm .. so esterday i heard some weird sound inside it .
so i went to check and opened it .
Found out the rubber bit and its "shield" (for right top backbutton) were loose


so i tried to put it back to its place ... but its not really clicking and the R4 doesnt work anymore

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i just contacted the support for RMA (for the nonworking r4)
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I dont really use the button so its not problem with my decking at all , but iw ill be busy in next few weeks aynway and still got Win3 for my handheld needs so not that much of an issue to be without it for some time

=> so better safe than sorry , especially when my warranty runs out in march.
 
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I was wondering why I was getting such bad battery life on Persona 3 so I checked my TDP.

I completely forgot I set it to 10 to make Persona 5 run at stable 60fps heh.

Now setting it down to 4 or 5 makes P3 run like butter. Basically 6+hrs of battey life :p
 
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Anyone having loud trackpad haptics sometimes? My right side trackpad gets a rattle, but only when playing certain games. When I'm in desktop mode or testing the trackpad haptics, it's fine (strength set to 4). Why would the haptics get much stronger while in game, to the point of rattling, and then only one trackpad? Not considering submitting a ticket for this, since it's not a huge deal, just wondering. I've seen a couple of threads on steam community about rattling trackpads, but those cases seem much worse than mine and happen outside of games, too.
 

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I was wondering why I was getting such bad battery life on Persona 3 so I checked my TDP.

I completely forgot I set it to 10 to make Persona 5 run at stable 60fps heh.

Now setting it down to 4 or 5 makes P3 run like butter. Basically 6+hrs of battey life :p
You can create settings preset for each game, you know that right? So that when you launch P3P it will automatically set TDP to 5 Watts, and when you run P5 it will switch to 10 Watts.
 

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You can create settings preset for each game, you know that right? So that when you launch P3P it will automatically set TDP to 5 Watts, and when you run P5 it will switch to 10 Watts.
Yea I know but I just keep it a default. I mostly play indies, long jrpgs or old games that don't really need tweaking. But I played P5R for over 150hrs over the past 3 months so I just tuned out and never even messed with any of the system settings lol.
 
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i just contacted the support for RMA (for the nonworking r4)
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I dont really use the button so its not problem with my decking at all , but iw ill be busy in next few weeks aynway and still got Win3 for my handheld needs so not that much of an issue to be without it for some time

=> so better safe than sorry , especially when my warranty runs out in march.
that was quick (also complained about R2 and the fan in the support ticket )

 

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I hope that Valve redesigns their cooling a bit in Steam Deck 2. GPD Win 3 and Aya Neo devices are smaller and yet they have bigger fans and heatsinks.
 

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Trine 4 looks good, the art in these games is always so underrated.
The whole Trine series looks absolutely beautiful! Bit of a shame the story of Trine 3 remains unfinished – and that game was a bit of a missed opportunity anyway... they couldve made a fantastic 3D platformer but the fixed camera they had really limited it.

I would argue the art direction in those games was never underrated tho, I think it was always praised–rightfully so :)
 

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I haven't looked through the admittedly 40 pages of content of this thread yet because I had to originally cancel my original pre-order of a steam deck but I just got one for my birthday because of my family and I just wanted to throw out that I'm surprised by the amount of old games I have in my library that are fully verified on the steam deck.
Stuff from 2010 or older or even delisted games are fully verified and I was just kind of like "Oh that's neat"
 

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Finished Little Noah, was a fun game, not as long / dynamic as something like Hades but still gave me like 10hours of entertainment, there are other modes that unlocked but not really going to do them. It's a game that's fun to pick up and play and can resume midway through on the deck without quitting the game.
PossiblyPudding really enjoyed it too! :)
 
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I haven't looked through the admittedly 40 pages of content of this thread yet because I had to originally cancel my original pre-order of a steam deck but I just got one for my birthday because of my family and I just wanted to throw out that I'm surprised by the amount of old games I have in my library that are fully verified on the steam deck.
Stuff from 2010 or older or even delisted games are fully verified and I was just kind of like "Oh that's neat"
Don't hesitate to try any not verified games. I can count the games I could not get running on one hand.