Community MetaSteam | December 2018 - We got 99 problems, but 76 ain't one
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You can't. It doesn't even use VAC.
got the Zero Escape Trilogy, today my queue is full of titty VNs...
How would you filter that stuff out though? You have anime, VN and adult content enabled, right?
Just out of curiosity how many discovery queues have you done before this point? I try to do one a day, sometimes two. My queues used to look a lot more normal, like yours. But with over 3k ignored titles now, it's basically just flinging shit my way lol.
I think I wishlist maybe one game every 5 queues if I'm lucky these days. Not sure if I'm extremely picky or have too high standards or what. At times I do feel the discovery queue issues are my fault, cuz I do buy a lot of anime stuff, but other times it just seems so out of tune with me I'm not sure what's up.
And again...
I don't know how it can be similar to a fighting game and a beat 'em all... maybe I should try it...
And again...
That Vanguard Princess game attracts naughty stuff like crazy.
I don't know how it can be similar to a fighting game and a beat 'em all... maybe I should try it...
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And again...
That Vanguard Princess game attracts naughty stuff like crazy.
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Just wait till this game appears in your queue. It did not appear in my queue, I read about it in a magazine.
If devs provide descriptions of their games, it should be possible for Valve to allow us to filter out games based on the words in the review.
For instance, exclude any game which is described using the word "inflatable".
If devs provide descriptions of their games, it should be possible for Valve to allow us to filter out games based on the words in the review.
For instance, exclude any game which is described using the word "inflatable".
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It's a fair price to pay for two of the best games I've ever played. Hope you enjoy them!got the Zero Escape Trilogy, today my queue is full of titty VNs...
Don't lie, those games were always in your queue, you just didn't have an excuse to admit it.got the Zero Escape Trilogy, today my queue is full of titty VNs...
Okay, today I got some of those famous Hentai Puzzles in my third discovery queue. The biggest culprit appear to be Nights of Azure (played in february) ... I suppose that's fair. I filter out Free to Play, Hidden Object and Massively Multiplayer.
Here is a list of the "mature" games I got:
The rest of suggestions did have some interesting games so I'm still far from "steam only points me to hentai".
Here is a list of the "mature" games I got:
- First Queue:
- Deep Space Waifu: FANTASY. Because of similar game: Nights of Azure
- Second Queue:
- Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars. Also similar to Nights of Azure.
- Moero Chronicle. Similar to Nights of Azure and Atelier Sophie.
- Third Queue:
- Hentai Square Puzzle. Similar to Nights of Azure
- Hentai Cute Puzzles. Because you've played games tagged: Action Indie
- Maidens of a Hollow Dream. Because you've played games tagged: Action Indie Female Protagonist
The rest of suggestions did have some interesting games so I'm still far from "steam only points me to hentai".
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I don't care about hentai in my queues but why does a game I played 2 hours in april is used as reference (for the tags nudity and adult content) at least twice per queue since the beginning of the sales is baffling me when most of the games I play nowadays or games that have played times in the 3 digits never appear.
why so many people are worked up by those discovery queues is beyond me, tbh. Unless you have store for yourself alone, there will never be possible to attune it to one person's tastes perfectly. I still find some interesting games in my dq, not often, but not like it is so totally useless as people make it sound.
We care because some devs are causing shitstorms on Twitter, claiming those games steal ALL views from their own games.
I just went through 4 discovery queues and got 3 hentai games total. I guess it's not as widespread as it seems.
It seems that when you accept to see "adult content" for one game on the store, it checks every mature content category on your account (Login) and your queues are more "adult" oriented, taking views from other games.
I don't understand the complaints about hentai games.
Isn't the point of the discovery qeue to find amazing under the radar indie games?
Isn't the point of the discovery qeue to find amazing under the radar indie games?
It could be, but like 4 sales back I got only survival games in my queue and was really unhappy about it, cuz I don't play them, that's RNG for you, if it hates you, it can make your life hell without any help from outside.
Yeah... I did notice before that sometimes the algorithm really goes in into one genre. I remember putting "Hidden Object" on my filters because of one time (in one of sales) that a lot of them appeared at the same time.
Maybe one or two really popular games are enough to make the tags associated with them have way to much weight on what appears to users. Either way it's strange, one game I played 10 months on a very active account ago shouldn't be influencing almost 10% of the discovery queues now. I can only imagine what happens for people that idle cards.
Maybe one or two really popular games are enough to make the tags associated with them have way to much weight on what appears to users. Either way it's strange, one game I played 10 months on a very active account ago shouldn't be influencing almost 10% of the discovery queues now. I can only imagine what happens for people that idle cards.
Didn't get any hentai in my queue today, worthless day
To trick the algorythm I just added this game to my account:
From now on I'll only get boring games in my queues.
From now on I'll only get boring games in my queues.
Wow, idk about anyone else but some of those platinum games are rather surprising to me!
Kingdom Come Deliverance, Vermintide 2, Jurassic World Evolution are all very surprising to me
I think the purpose of the content in the game matters somewhat too.
These hentai-furry-whatever games seems to exist for the purpose of being sex games. Which is fine, some people want games that are basically porn, and that’s their prerogative. The Witcher by way of comparison has some sex in it, but it’s not a sex game. Rust has a metric truckload of nudity, but it’s clearly not a sex game.
So again, there’s a fair chasm to me between not minding the sex/nudity/gore of an RPG or survival game, and the sex/nudity of a hentai puzzler or a Ren’Py VN that exists solely for pornographic purposes.
Like I said, there’s probably no way to actually fix this algorithm short of them creating some kind of massive machine learning overhaul. Because otherwise, I have no idea how you deal with the granularity in personal preferences towards amount of sex/violence/gore, types and functions.
I think that one is only up until Summer Sale. Whole 2018 list still doesn't work.
Maybe they accidentally added it to update news, and it will be only up on 1st Jan.
Finished SteamWorld Dig 2, amazing game. Only took me 10 hours while getting all secrets (except for the challenge dungeon, I suck at stuff like that).
I wrote a Steam review in case anyone's interested Steam Community :: Gevin K. :: Review for SteamWorld Dig 2
I wrote a Steam review in case anyone's interested Steam Community :: Gevin K. :: Review for SteamWorld Dig 2
This wouldn't happen on the Epic Store.
bought SC6, game is legit. Did a rank match and won it too. Think its time to retire in ranked while I'm still at 100% win ratio
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yes ... we wouldn't get any stats on there
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Today, it's been pretty much all about Early Access releases for me in the Steam Winter Sale.
I bought:
And, through my Discovery Queue, I discovered Soldak Entertainment is making a sequel to Din's Curse called Din's Legacy, and it's already on Steam Early Access (how did I miss this?):
I bought:
And, through my Discovery Queue, I discovered Soldak Entertainment is making a sequel to Din's Curse called Din's Legacy, and it's already on Steam Early Access (how did I miss this?):
It's a must have for any exploration/metroidvania fan, I enjoyed every hour.
About Vermintide 2 it's one of the finest coop games ever, in my opinion. Playing with friends is a blast and the randoms are usually decent. Another easy recommendation
Got three games with some credit I got for christmas. Didn't realize afterwards that they all have a theme; Celeste, Crosscode, and Cosmic Star Heroine.
Crosscode immediately feels insanely well made and polished. And it's apparently in HTML5? You can gamedev in that? Humph, webdev. Either way, game seems good from the outset.
Crosscode immediately feels insanely well made and polished. And it's apparently in HTML5? You can gamedev in that? Humph, webdev. Either way, game seems good from the outset.
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Oh if there is a thread on Era it's going to get ugly... ouch.
"In other words, to compete as a store and encourage healthy competition between stores"
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"All developers recognize this because their business are being crushed under the weight of these increasing store taxes."
Has there been any evidence of Valve increasing the 30% cut?
"In other words, to compete as a store and encourage healthy competition between stores"
or
"All developers recognize this because their business are being crushed under the weight of these increasing store taxes."
Has there been any evidence of Valve increasing the 30% cut?
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nope ... it's been 30% since forever (and effectively lower than that if you take into account free key generation, i guess)
Thought so, but I don't have any "contacts" to really know. I can't think of any other service Valve charges from developers so I'm going to assume it's just bs from him.
With all that money Epic could have done this whole "enter the market" so much better and without being this off putting.... oh well....
Sweeney is the worst.
This is also a fairly bad comparison. The investment in new TV content is partially due to streaming services competing with one another and wanting more "exclusive" content to sell their service.
It's also partially a result of major rights' holders taking their content back from the services (e.g., Disney planning to take their stuff back, and WB trying to take back Friends recently), forcing Amazon and Netflix to invest in content creation to fill their libraries back up.
That sounds good in theory though right? The actual rights holders get to profit off their content, and the streaming services invest in brand new content, giving us more stuff all around. Except we know that all these new services have created a verifiable return of and rise in piracy.
Obviously a free launcher doesn't have quite the same barrier to entry that a subscription streaming service has. But this whole droning on about monopolies is idiotic when Epic is monopolizing content into their own launcher in a way that Steam never did.
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afaik volvo doesn't charge devs for anything beyond the $100 direct fee (which the devs eventually get back anyway) and the 30%
ahh, but you see - they need to do this ... i mean - steam took 14 years to be decent ... you can't expect a multi-billion dollar corporation to be able to replicate that in years (that they spent working on the store)
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The problem (for me) is that these games aren't the porn games I'd want to be shown in my queue. The queue isn't showing me the Meltys Quests of the store I don't know about, it shows me these cheap games that of porn only have the hentai in the title.
I keep putting them on ignore but the queue keeps offering them to me. Me buying HRPGs or Porn VNs doesn't mean I want these hentai puzzle games. Obviously the algorithm can't know right off the bat, but showing me 4 hentai puzzle games back to back? Fine, the queue was already made, but I put these games on ignore and the next 2 queue still shows me a couple of them, so what gives? And why these same games I put on ignore show up on the right corner of the cart (complete with the faded look to imply ignored content) when I add indie anime looking game to my cart?
Now, I don't care too much. Sure, I'll come here or I'll go on discord to comment about how the queue feels weird at times, but I don't get offended by it, I just click ignore and next for my queue run and be done. Still, I would love for these games to stop showing up on my list, replaced by the HRPGs and porn VNs that I might have missed, since those are among the (naughty) content I buy and wishlist.
I'm also going to say that games with hentai in the title, 9 times out of ten should be rejected as troll games, because that's really what most of those games truly are.
To be fair Conception II and Moero Chronicles are legit Japanese mid tier JRPGs. Rest don't instill much confidence.
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