Community MetaSteam | February 2021 - We Don't Do Regional Pricing in This House

[Swenhir]

I don't care about anything else because they don't care about anything else.

Spot on.

Wanting customers and the community to care about them and being indulgent in ways that go beyond a simple business relationship, only to revert to it whenever they want and suits their needs is not a healthy nor ethical mode of operation and is textbook exploitation and manipulation if it establishes itself as a pattern.

That goes even more when they have portrayed such care for the players as a core ethos of their studio and identity, which has been shown to be nothing more than KS-campaign lip service for a great many developers, poisoning the well for the others.

 

[fantomena]

I've allways felt the best thing for an indie dev who goes EGSxclusive to do is simply to just write "I like money, I need money, so we're going EGS exclusive for the time being".

 

[Tizoc]

Cheap.

Bruv, 50% off is not cheap
cheap is 90% off or $0.99 or less
Please do keep up....

 

[rybrad]

I think the attitude of absolving the devs of all "blame" in these exclusivity deals is very myopic. People get away with all kinds of sketchy shit under the guise of "hey man, just taking what's available to me"; like the Lakers taking a PPP loan (that they gave back when found out). Just because something is offered to you doesn't mean you get to take it with no judgment or criticism allowed.

 

[toxicitizen]

No one got mad at the developer I think. Understanding doesn't necessarily mean supporting. It is still our right as customers to not buy the game if we choose not to.

See my last post. No one's saying you have to buy the game, on EGS or anywhere else.

I dunno, I don't wanna read too much between the lines but complaining about the dev writing up a post explaining his decision to take an EGS deal comes off as kinda salty to me.

 

[Tizoc]

I started playing my first Frogwares Sherlock game recently and I'm pretty fucking impressed. Sure it's low budget but I love having to actually figure shit out.

Can't wait for more

Testament of Sherlock with SSGSS AA looks really nice

 

[NarohDethan]

Parasite wasn't a movie, it was a documentary.

 

[Swenhir]

Parasite wasn't a movie, it was a documentary.

Stop making me need to watch it, I know it's going to depress me.

What I saw of the cinematography alone was amazingly good.

 

[NarohDethan]

Stop making me need to watch it, I know it's going to depress me.

What I saw of the cinematography alone was amazingly good.

You should. It is a great piece of cinema and a great critique of capitalism.

 

[fantomena]

Parasite wasn't a movie, it was a documentary.

Fantastic movie.

 

[Swenhir]

You should. It is a great piece of cinema and a great critique of capitalism.

I know, you are right and not just this one, but the director's entire cinematography deserves a good and long looking at. I'm just in a pretty crappy place mentally and I'm not sure this is the right one for me at this precise moment .

Log Horizon S3 seems pretty interesting though!

 

[lashman]

It was in the EGS event, though

yes, but it's gonna be released on everything including gog

Eh, isn't this by the same devs that made that recent Call of Cthulhu game? I've been on a Lovecraft kick lately and gave it a shot the other night. I wanna keep playing but man, the low quality was jarring right out of the gate. Probably not the best idea to jump into a lower budget game right after Cyberpunk though, to be fair lol.

it is ... but their Sherlock games were pretty much always good ... they're AA games, naturally ... but they're always solid and interesting to play

 

[gabbo]

No problem, I was not going to purchase them at this price. 230 €.

50/60 euro per game? That's ...roughly $77/$93CAD jesus christ. Welp, so much for that going forward

 

[Joe Spangle]

There are about 70ish games on sale on my wishlist and I don't really feel like buying any of them.

What's wrong with me?

 

[Alexandros]

I've allways felt the best thing for an indie dev who goes EGSxclusive to do is simply to just write "I like money, I need money, so we're going EGS exclusive for the time being".

Agreed. This way you take responsibility for your decision and you let customers decide if they want to buy your product or not. You made your decision, own it and accept the results.

I think the attitude of absolving the devs of all "blame" in these exclusivity deals is very myopic. People get away with all kinds of sketchy shit under the guise of "hey man, just taking what's available to me"; like the Lakers taking a PPP loan (that they gave back when found out). Just because something is offered to you doesn't mean you get to take it with no judgment or criticism allowed.

Absolutely. As I said above, understanding is not condoning.

See my last post. No one's saying you have to buy the game, on EGS or anywhere else.

I dunno, I don't wanna read too much between the lines but complaining about the dev writing up a post explaining his decision to take an EGS deal comes off as kinda salty to me.

I'd like to ask you a question. Did we need that blog post to explain to us why the developer took the money? Didn't we already know? If so, why was that blog post made?

 

[Tizoc]

There are about 70ish games on sale on my wishlist and I don't really feel like buying any of them.

What's wrong with me?

Nothing; you're being sane and letting that little voice inside you encourage you to clear your backlog instead.

 

[toxicitizen]

it is ... but their Sherlock games were pretty much always good ... they're AA games, naturally ... but they're always solid and interesting to play

Cool. Pretty sure I have some of them so I'll give them a shot. They always looked interesting to me but I'm usually wary of games from publishers that specialize in lower budget stuff.

I'd like to ask you a question. Did we need that blog post to explain to us why the developer took the money? Didn't we already know? If so, why was that blog post made?

Lol. Who cares, dude? He's free to write a blog post explaining his reasoning just as you're free to... not read it? Given the amount of vitriol that can surround these deals, I can kind of understand feeling the need to explain your decision.

 

[lashman]

Cool. Pretty sure I have some of them so I'll give them a shot. They always looked interesting to me but I'm usually wary of games from publishers that specialize in lower budget stuff.

please do - they're genuinely good ... janky and CLEARLY lower-budget ... but for what they are - they're absolutely great

 

[fantomena]

lol

 

[Tizoc]

Some neat stuff on sale

 

[Blu]

Super cheap

 

[Lashley]

Bought way of the samurai 4

And that's it

 

[Nabs]

Is it time to buy the Way of the Samurai games?

 

[rybrad]

Some neat stuff on sale

Those screenshots of gameplay sure didn't match up with what I envisioned from that cover art and description.

 

[lashman]

Is it time to buy the Way of the Samurai games?

i don't know ... let's ask Kurt Russell

 

[Kurt Russell]

i don't know ... let's ask Kurt Russell

IT'S TIME TO BUY ALL OF THEM (sadly that just means 3 and 4 on PC )

 

[sprinkles]

[[UWSL]ase, however I [/UWSL]

Is it time to buy the Way of the Samurai games?

Melinda Megamelons is waiting for you.

 

[Alexandros]

Cool. Pretty sure I have some of them so I'll give them a shot. They always looked interesting to me but I'm usually wary of games from publishers that specialize in lower budget stuff.



Lol. Who cares, dude? He's free to write a blog post explaining his reasoning just as you're free to... not read it? Given the amount of vitriol that can surround these deals, I can kind of understand feeling the need to explain your decision.

"Who cares" is quite apt because it circles around to my point. The developer took the money. Why? Who cares. I'm a customer, I don't like it, I don't buy it. "Who cares" is an equally valid response for both sides of this argument, right?

 

[Cacher]

Kingdom Hearts coming to EGS?

 

[Yoshi]

 

[toxicitizen]

"Who cares" is quite apt because it circles around to my point. The developer took the money. Why? Who cares. I'm a customer, I don't like it, I don't buy it. "Who cares" is an equally valid response for both sides of this argument, right?

Of what argument? That he... shouldn't have written a blog post?

And again, no one's telling you you have to buy the game. So I'm not sure why you keep bringing that up.

 

[Shahem]

EGS = shit

On this we should agree in earnest.

 

[Pogi]

Watch this shit turn around and they blame the platform and people who play on PC on a series of tweets with all the pie charts and SKU comparison. There is no need for rationalizing if you did it for the money. As our local adage goes, "It's not a wrong decision if you are a person with integrity." Sounds better in our language just like if it is not exclusive on EGS lmao.

 

[prudis]

Damn I called both Axiom Verge 2 and KH going EGS ages ago. My brain is massive.

yeah not that hard to prophecize

 

[Alexandros]

Of what argument? That he... shouldn't have written a blog post?

That the blog post matters either way. I will summarize. You said that people shouldn't be mad at the devs for taking an exclusivity deal. You said that the reactions to the blog post seemed salty to you. I asked you about the purpose of the post, you said "who cares why he wrote it" and I replied saying "who cares that he wrote it".

There are two main tendencies among posters as far as I can tell. There are those who were affected by the blog post in a positive way and their opinion of the developer has improved and there are those who were not affected by the blog post in a positive way and their opinion of the developer has worsened (as a result of the exclusivity deal). What you perceived as salt about the blog post is in my opinion a negative reaction towards the deal itself that was unaffected by the developer's attempt to explain his decision.

 

[Nabs]

This isn't towards anyone, but I guess a little background may help some others who are reading that blog post blindly: The Indie (Special Needs) Dad — Axiom Verge

 

[BoosterDuck]

I can finally say kingdom hearts sucks without sounding like a console hater

 

[toxicitizen]

That the blog post matters either way. I will summarize. You said that people shouldn't be mad at the devs for taking an exclusivity deal. You said that the reactions to the blog post seemed salty to you. I asked you about the purpose of the post, you said "who cares why he wrote it" and I replied saying "who cares that he wrote it".

There are two main tendencies among posters as far as I can tell. There are those who were affected by the blog post in a positive way and their opinion of the developer has improved and there are those who were not affected by the blog post in a positive way and their opinion of the developer has worsened (as a result of the exclusivity deal). What you perceived as salt about the blog post is in my opinion a negative reaction towards the deal itself that was unaffected by the developer's attempt to explain his decision.

Jesus Christ, dude...

Think what you want. No offense but I'm just gonna peace out here. This pointless argument is a waste of time. Have a good one, buddy.

 

[Alexandros]

Jesus Christ, dude...

Think what you want. No offense but I'm just gonna peace out here. This pointless argument is a waste of time. Have a good one, buddy.

You too, thanks for the discussion.

 

[Pogi]

King's Bounty 2 delayed to August, I am not mad or disappointed. I could wait. I was about to get a heart attack when the game appeared in the Epic Games Store Spring Showcase but the Twitter account confirms that it will be released on Steam, GOG, and EGS. At the same time? I don't know. Fuck that noise if it is timed.

Tactical RPG Kings Bounty 2 Has Been Delayed To August

Tactical RPG King's Bounty 2 has been pushed back from its original March 2021 release date to get a few months more polish.

www.gamespot.com

 

[Alexandros]

King's Bounty 2 delayed to August, I am not mad or disappointed. I could wait. I was about to get a heart attack when the game appeared in the Epic Games Store Spring Showcase but the Twitter account confirms that it will be released on Steam, GOG, and EGS. At the same time? I don't know. Fuck that noise if it is timed.

Tactical RPG Kings Bounty 2 Has Been Delayed To August

Tactical RPG King's Bounty 2 has been pushed back from its original March 2021 release date to get a few months more polish.

www.gamespot.com

Man, I still don't know what to think of this. I loved the previous games, this change in style and possibly gameplay might be too jarring. I hope it turns out ok.

 

[Wildebeet]

Didn't we already know that Axiom Verge 2 was going to EGS? Like a long time ago? Was it one of those "Coming to PC" things where the dev won't commit to at least steam, if not all platforms? I didn't think that was supposed to be a big reveal, and I sure don't have cool insider information. I thought this was known long ago.

 

[Nabs]

There's a ton, I mean a ton of Hades fan art on twitter. I just clicked on the trend and it's just flooded. I'm afraid of those subreddits/sites dedicated to the weird stuff.

Oh hey, reminder: Unavowed by Wadjet Eye is really good

 

[QFNS]

So among all this news the Eiyuden Chronicle Kickstarter (Suikdoen spiritual successor team) announced they are partnering with 505 games.

Just like Bloodstained did....and Death Stranding. Both of which they name drop in the video announcement.

505s track record on PC is a bit mixed these days... But I guess this game is still years away. No point I worrying yet.

 

[DeejayDoom]

So among all this news the Eiyuden Chronicle Kickstarter (Suikdoen spiritual successor team) announced they are partnering with 505 games.

Just like Bloodstained did....and Death Stranding. Both of which they name drop in the video announcement.

505s track record on PC is a bit mixed these days... But I guess this game is still years away. No point I worrying yet.

 

[lashman]

505s track record on PC is a bit mixed these days... But I guess this game is still years away. No point I worrying yet.

it's not their track record i don't like ... it's their refusal to do regional pricing properly

 

[QFNS]

it's not their track record i don't like ... it's their refusal to do regional pricing properly

This was one of things I was referring to, but also they they handled Control Ultimate edition was pretty bad for people who bought the base game and Bloodstained was fine on initial release but the DLC has been kind of a cluster.
[UWSL] [/UWSL]
[UWSL] Thankfully I live in pricing privileged country, but it still sucks that they won't let more people play their games for prices that actual humans can afford. Though, 505 are hardly alone in that respect these days, sadly.[/UWSL]

 

[lashman]

[UWSL] Thankfully I live in pricing privileged country, but it still sucks that they won't let more people play their games for prices that actual humans can afford. Though, 505 are hardly alone in that respect these days, sadly.[/UWSL]

yes, unfortunately sigh

 

[Cordelia]

Kingdom Hearts franchise is coming to PC



It's a fucking EGSclusive



Full priced and costs $230 while it only costs $30 on PS4

 

[Kvik]

So among all this news the Eiyuden Chronicle Kickstarter (Suikdoen spiritual successor team) announced they are partnering with 505 games.

And after I specifically mentioned in Backer's feedback/survey that they should not partner with 505.

Watch them fuck up the Backers physical rewards again.