Community MetaSteam | February 2021 - We Don't Do Regional Pricing in This House

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EdwardTivrusky

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Yeah, the half-assed nature of the settings being split between the baby settings Win 10 UX and the grown-up Win 7 dialogs is still baffling to me.
 
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Li Kao

It’s a strange world. Let’s keep it that way.
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Epic only wants to keep those games out of Steam for the first year and see if they can hurt it, that's it, they don't care if you buy it or now, whatever Epic paid for KH exceeded the amount of copies it will probably sell at that price.
I'm not the most anti-EGS of gamers (never bought something though) but it really makes you think. What a spectacularly moronic strategy and management. The last 2-3 years have proven without a doubt that Steam isn't really impacted by this shit, and yet they try, again and again, without doing the mininum on the side for their service to be more palatable.
Huge ports are coming to Steam left and right, they break their user records every other days and new hits that no one saw coming appear on the regular.
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And Epic buys Kingdom Hearts exclusivity. This ain't enough, it boggles the mind that they could think 'this time, it will totally work'.
 

Shahem

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I severely doubt that it's true
You can't be faulted for being sceptical at this stage but if Bloodborne and God of War make the jump after Horizon, how weird would it be for Spider-Man ?
Horizon could be a one-off for all we truly know but if Sony are really interested in generating a new stream of revenue for Playstation then Spider-Man makes tons of sense.

There is a precedent now.
 

Mor

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I'm not the most anti-EGS of gamers (never bought something though) but it really makes you think. What a spectacularly moronic strategy and management. The last 2-3 years have proven without a doubt that Steam isn't really impacted by this shit, and yet they try, again and again, without doing the mininum on the side for their service to be more palatable.
Huge ports are coming to Steam left and right, they break their user records every other days and new hits that no one saw coming appear on the regular.
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And Epic buys Kingdom Hearts exclusivity. This ain't enough, it boggles the mind that they could think 'this time, it will totally work'.
A port not released on Steam makes a side effect elsewhere, it's a whole catalog of potential variables.

No, they are not hurting Steam but it's making things annoying, that's all.
 
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Mivey

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You're completely right. But Epic is playing a long term capitalistic game here, which has worked out for some other companies using a similar strategy like Amazon. Time will tell if EGS succeeds or not. Many young people love Epic because of Fortnite and the free games.
I don't see young people who like free stuff easily transforming into customers willing to pay 60$ for an old franchise they have never heard about.
I'm also not to worried that Epic will transform the gaming market long term, when they seem to dumb every step of the way. This feels like someone with way to much money and no real understanding of the market throwing around huge sums of money. If even in 2020, with the pandemic and lockdown, EGS barely manages to produce more money, what chance does it have in a normal year ? (hoping that 2021 is "normal")
 

Swenhir

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The "Settings" app is an utter atrocity, and I haven't found anything to really fix that. StartIsBack at least fixes the start menu part though (including the borked search result prioritization).
Yeah, I'm really worried that Windows is just headed for the wall. At the same time, I'm grumpy and sleep deprived, so who knows what might happen.

I wish there was a proper third OS vendor to kick MS's butt and try to make something good.
 

Ganado

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Huh, didn't know that Nioh 2 maybe (?) uses Epic Online Services? There is an EOSSDK-Win64-Shipping.dll and it won't start without it.
 
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Wildebeet

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I'm not the most anti-EGS of gamers (never bought something though) but it really makes you think. What a spectacularly moronic strategy and management. The last 2-3 years have proven without a doubt that Steam isn't really impacted by this shit, and yet they try, again and again, without doing the mininum on the side for their service to be more palatable.
Huge ports are coming to Steam left and right, they break their user records every other days and new hits that no one saw coming appear on the regular.
...
And Epic buys Kingdom Hearts exclusivity. This ain't enough, it boggles the mind that they could think 'this time, it will totally work'.
Yeah I'm increasingly convinced that there is no adult in the room at Epic. This has always looked like a weird ego project and now they're on a path they can't easily get off of now. The funny thing about all of this, they could have stuck to their basic competitive differences to other stores, spent time and money on making a decent service ... and instead had a nice, profitable, competitive storefront that people had no problem using at this point.
 

Arsene

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Huh, didn't know that Nioh 2 maybe (?) uses Epic Online Services? There is an EOSSDK-Win64-Shipping.dll and it won't start without it.
Nioh 1 had awful connection issues and Koei probably wanted something more stable for 2 so they used EOS.
 

fokkusu

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Yes it’s a nice thought and would be nice to see someone else gaining market in OS area but I will most prob be nursing home before that happens. 😀 Microsoft has been there since the 90s and keeps on going for some reason.

Life is too short and need to use what we have at the moment to try finish the Steam backlog.
 
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Wildebeet

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Yes it’s a nice thought and would be nice to see someone else gaining market in OS area but I will most prob be nursing home before that happens. 😀 Microsoft has been there since the 90s and keeps on going for some reason.

Life is too short and need to use what we have at the moment to try finish the Steam backlog.
Do people not find that Ubuntu or whatever will basically do what you need it to? I know it has some issues, but I've found it to be a nice alternative.
 

Tizoc

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Soul Reaver 2 needs to start with the puzzling already, so far its been lots of cutscenes and just me running around the given paths while avoiding combat :p

At the least the voice acting is superb and I am liking the story beats. Seriously, the way the dialog is presented, you'd think it's an audio book with art being offered or sampled.
 

Mor

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Would NMH even get a PC rating if it was streaming only?
No, don't think so but as I haven't seen previous Luna ratings, I don't know how they work.

Another curious detail is that Xseed hasn't even talked about it, so, perhaps someone pushed the button so early or it's going to be announced shortly.
 

freshVeggie

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  • Radeon RX 6800 XT (new driver): 468.77 fps (Mesh Shaders enabled)
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Number go big = Big good :lampblob:
 

Tizoc

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Soul Reaver 2's save system is annoying. There are save points and you have to go to them to save your progress, and that's the ONLY way to save. So you could spend 30+ mins. in a dungeon without ever saving and have to finish it in one sitting or so XP
 

Wildebeet

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Dyson Sphere really seems to need some kind of external threat, an enemy of some sort. The only way I know what to do next is by climbing up the research trees and trying to figure out what to make from there. I don't at any point feel like I need to build a massive energy generating dyson sphere for some reason. The game really lets you get comfortable, which I both like and find unmotivating.
 
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kafiend

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Dyson Sphere really seems to need some kind of external threat, an enemy of some sort. The only way I know what to do next is by climbing up the research trees and trying to figure out what to make from there. I don't at any point feel like I need to build a massive energy generating dyson sphere for some reason. The game really lets you get comfortable, which I both like and find unmotivating.
I think enemies are going to be in the game. Can't say if its 100% accurate just seen people saying they would be.
 
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Amzin

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The Lunar sale is weird based on my wishlist. I have a lot of games on sale but most of them are on a much lesser sale than like, even small sales. Some stuff that's been 75% off is like 30% off. I know there are still some new historic lows but it's just odd to see so many half-hearted sales out of nowhere.


Dyson Sphere really seems to need some kind of external threat, an enemy of some sort. The only way I know what to do next is by climbing up the research trees and trying to figure out what to make from there. I don't at any point feel like I need to build a massive energy generating dyson sphere for some reason. The game really lets you get comfortable, which I both like and find unmotivating.
I haven't played Factorio so can't compare but I strongly disagree here. The devs have mentioned they plan to add hostiles at some point and I hope it's optional because I would stop playing instantly and never come back. It's very nice to just build, plan, sort, structure, explore, plan, build, etc. my way towards this goal. The goal itself (build Dyson Sphere) doesn't change with the addition of threats, that just changes the micro management and ability to space out or spend time experimenting when you don't know if something will pan out. I don't need that tedium added to a game that already has so many things to constantly go renovate (veins get depleted so you have to go find new sources or reroute conveyers, or you suddenly have a much higher demand for a material you'd previously only automated one assembler for)
 

Stevey

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Yeah, a lot of stuff on my wishlist isn't discounted much
 
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Wok

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Apparently, Super Seducer 3 will be released in 3 days, and it will be censored: people ask for an "uncensor" patch on the Steam forum. Not sure whether it is a joke. I have watched a Twitch stream for a minute, and it was written "censored" at the top left of the videos, it could be some NDA though.

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Edit²: Censored versions on Twitch are to avoid Twitch bans for nudity.

 
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Madventure

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I posted this elsewhere but the "closed beta" for luna is just the opportunity to pay for it early (I got into luna) so you aren't missing anything unless you want to pay for it and the 60$ controller besides a gracious 7 day free trial
 
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Wildebeet

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I haven't played Factorio so can't compare but I strongly disagree here. The devs have mentioned they plan to add hostiles at some point and I hope it's optional because I would stop playing instantly and never come back. It's very nice to just build, plan, sort, structure, explore, plan, build, etc. my way towards this goal. The goal itself (build Dyson Sphere) doesn't change with the addition of threats, that just changes the micro management and ability to space out or spend time experimenting when you don't know if something will pan out. I don't need that tedium added to a game that already has so many things to constantly go renovate (veins get depleted so you have to go find new sources or reroute conveyers, or you suddenly have a much higher demand for a material you'd previously only automated one assembler for)
Yeah I can understand that. I'm on the fence myself about it and have mixed feelings about the enemies in Factorio also. Often I would just turn them off. Anyway in Dyson lots of the research is unintuitive when you get off the main path. Like I keep getting notifications that I'm just killing the research queue, but I don't feel like it's an accomplishment or like I did it for any reason. I'm just filling out the tree. I don't know why we're building the sphere, so the research part feels unfocused. Whereas if I had a smaller, shorter range goal like planetary defense and that's why I need all that titanium it would lead the way to why we need a dyson sphere.

And yet I'd be pissed if an enemy wrecked something. And I like building belts while the sun rises and sets and it doesn't matter how long I take. Dunno.
 
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Nabs

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I can't get enough of GTA Roleplaying clips. There's this guy roleplaying as Keanu in Cyberpunk, where he's all about one liners and shitting on people. Unfortunately, he's filled with glitches and desperately needs a patch.

clips.twitch.tv/InspiringCloudyMelonPraiseIt-hxC8aH_0KaCYm0f9

clips.twitch.tv/GracefulClumsyYogurtBleedPurple-j4rv2wVrgeUNABcN

clips.twitch.tv/UnsightlyFantasticOtterHotPokket-Bv85ktb5saWLt2PP
 

Swenhir

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Who knows, maybe 2021 is finally the year of the Linux desktop!

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Linux isn't that bad, but the unified and cohesive vision is to be found at the file and configuration level, inside the kernel, far from any UX considerations. That's why I stick to windows for now, but Linux remains at its core a better OS from a functional perspective. Just not from a user point of a view. UI and UX need tons of polish and a proper direction to start with.
 
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