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Which of these 4 SEGA games are you getting?


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NarohDethan

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Watching the Ghost Recon reveal, can't wait to see in person how it wont look like that.
 
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Eferis

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It looks like the new Ghost Recon is not for me. Just like the previous Ghost Recon. And the next Ghost Recon, probably.

Anyway, this is the time when I buy Battle Brothers after waiting for it to be bundled for years and it eventually ends up in the next monthly, isn't it?
 
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ohh, i see ... yeah, it's pretty much the same for me ... not that i avoid games with those ... but i just completely miss all of that timed stuff, because i just play games whenever i feel like it (usually years after release too, lol)



yeah, i really hope that's the case ... like i said - i would even buy all those winstore games again if they were on steam, i don't even care (just like i did with Killer Instinct and ReCore)



you know they're definitely trying
I mean, I agree, I'm sure Epic is lathering at the mouth to try and get whatever MS port or PC-centric title has in the pipe, but it really, really stretches what little credibility their mission statement for EGS is when Microsoft can be viewed as small or indie in any way. How did Epic's deal with MS for Gears end anyway? I always assumed it was less than amicable - unless it was all CliffyB (scapegoat im sure)
 
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Digoman

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I will probably always be at least a bit suspicious of Microsoft because I have been watching their... "tactics"... for a long time, but yes, the recent decisions and actions appear to be really in the right direction.

And with all the Epic drama, now is the perfect time for MS to get a lot of goodwill from the PC gaming community with any gesture, big or small. Normally with the Halo announcement for PC I would be "hey, that's good and I will probably get it if everything is ok", but with everything going is more "I'm pre-ordering as soon as possible just to show I really support this".

I really hope it's true they are at least taking the focus of UWP. That's a huge win.
 

Dinjoralo

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No doubt MCC on Steam is Spencer's way to gain the trust of pc gamers. But he said on Twitter that his vision is to release games where people want to play them. So there's hope that we'll see more of Microsofts games on Steam.

Unless Epic ruins this as well by making deals with Microsoft 😠
At worst, putting MCC on Steam is a calculated move to get into PC gaming's good graces and, more importantly, get PC gamers more invested in Microsoft's gaming ecosystem before Gamepass and xCloud hit the scene, and the next generation of consoles brings a bunch of Microsoft published games with it. Epic, frankly, ain't got shit to offer Microsoft in those regards.
 

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I think I posted about it a while ago, but I am personally just exhausted with timed events, exploitative "gotta keep up" quests, all that stuff. I had my fill in Destiny 2, Monster Hunter, Division, and a bunch of others. It feels bad. Like you're being manipulated. What happens with me is that playing a game becomes mechanical, a chore, and I stop enjoying it. But not until I spent way too much time trying to keep up like it's a second job, because I have a bit of a completionist problem. Better just to avoid it altogether, so I don't get dragged in again.
Yeah I really hate this GaaS shit. They try to use FOMO on you to make you keep playing but for me it doesn't really work. I haven't gone back to Hitman 2 since 3 or 4 elusive targets ago. I only do the weekly quests in AC Odyssey and that's only because I recently went through the game, I expect when one busy week rolls around I'll stop caring about that too. I play games and move on to the next, I hate feeling like I have to go back.
 
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I had enough fun playing Wildlands solo, but I bought it way way after the release anyway. I can wait for Breakpoint.
That's assuming Ubi plans to put those games up on Steam at some point, they still haven't clarified on that have they.

If not, no big loss there.
 
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damn, ubi really are determined to save me as much money as possible

that's pretty nice of them, i gotta say

:drinking-blob:





That's assuming Ubi plans to put those games up on Steam at some point, they still haven't clarified on that have they.
95% sure they aren't planning on putting those games on steam ... ever

we all knew for a while they really wanted to leave steam ... and ubi giving them truckloads of cash for doing it only convinced them to do what they were planning on eventually doing anyway ... just a little bit sooner
 

Futaleufu

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Somewhat, the store is broken and many games can't be played anymore or only after an unreasonable amount of fiddling around.
I reinstalled MK Kollection some weeks ago and somehow it asked for my GFWL key again, then it took like 2 minutes to process, but the game worked after that. I didnt try online multiplayer though.

I played Fearless Fantasy, it was not designed to be played with a mouse, I still completed it many years ago.
 

madjoki

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Also it looks like Breakpoint won't get even physical PC version outside of Collectors Edition. (Which is Ubishop exclusive).
 

NarohDethan

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I reinstalled MK Kollection some weeks ago and somehow it asked for my GFWL key again, then it took like 2 minutes to process, but the game worked after that. I didnt try online multiplayer though.

I played Fearless Fantasy, it was not designed to be played with a mouse, I still completed it many years ago.
Speaking of MK Kollection is it me or this version of the game is ridiculously hard?
 
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Also it looks like Breakpoint won't get even physical PC version outside of Collectors Edition. (Which is Ubishop exclusive).
thanks, epic ...

in all seriousness, though ... ubi have always been this scummy ... for as long as i can remember

the only time they actually stopped was because of vivendi ... then they were suddenly all consumer-friendly, #belyves and all that other bullshit

once vivendi finally fucked off - they went RIGHT back to their usual bullshittery

the only thing epic really changed here is the speed at which ubi are willing to fuck everyone playing on PC over ... nothing else
 

AHA-Lambda

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Also it looks like Breakpoint won't get even physical PC version outside of Collectors Edition. (Which is Ubishop exclusive).
They've been doing this for a while now I think? At least in UK anyway.

To the surprise of absolutely no one...


EDIT: woah actually, this isn't up on UPlay yet? Surely it's not fully Epic exclusive?
 

Echoes

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So if Epic gave 10m$ to avoid division2 from being published on Steam, considering Ghost Recon to have a similar budget, are they really giving Ubi more than 20m$ in a year?

I mean how long can they sustain these kind of figures?:dizzy-face:
 

madjoki

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So if Epic gave 10m$ to avoid division2 from being published on Steam, considering Ghost Recon to have a similar budget, are they really giving Ubi more than 20m$ in a year?

I mean how long can they sustain these kind of figures?:dizzy-face:
Fortnite makes like $10m per second. very long.
 
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NarohDethan

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They've been doing this for a while now I think? At least in UK anyway.




EDIT: woah actually, this isn't up on UPlay yet? Surely it's not fully Epic exclusive?
Probably will get updated on the following hours.
 

PossiblyPudding

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thanks, epic ...

in all seriousness, though ... ubi have always been this scummy ... for as long as i can remember

the only time they actually stopped was because of vivendi ... then they were suddenly all consumer-friendly, #belyves and all that other bullshit

once vivendi finally fucked off - they went RIGHT back to their usual bullshittery

the only thing epic really changed here is the speed at which ubi are willing to fuck everyone playing on PC over ... nothing else
This is why I regret buying Division 2 on uplay so much. I saw it coming and still stupidly bought it. All to be used as a weapon against other storefronts, Steam especially.

I'm thankful that I was pretty burned out on The Division after dumping a ton of hours into the first so I have no real urge to go back to 2.
 
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I think the only thing I want from Ubi at this point is another Rayman, which won't happen ever anyway.
 
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This is why I regret buying Division 2 on uplay so much. I saw it coming and still stupidly bought it. All to be used as a weapon against other storefronts, Steam especially.

I'm thankful that I was pretty burned out on The Division after dumping a ton of hours into the first so I have no real urge to go back to 2.
well i said i won't buy any ubi games that aren't on steam ... and i haven't ... not even Wash_Doge or AssCreed will change that (as much as i like both franchises)

still haven't bought Ode either (even though i really wanted to play it)

if they don't want my money - i won't give it to them ... i'm not some mindless sheep that will do whatever it takes just to play the hot new game while getting fucked over by corporations left right and center
 
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library_hero what could that be?
i guess those could be the new vertical ones?

they're genuinely insane if they think every single (or even the majority) dev/publisher will update their capsule images, lmao
 
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Mivey

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But we have evil two thousand times worse.
UWP may seem like a lame duck now, but it was pretty alarming at the time, from the release of Windows 8 on.
It's also why I'm sure Epic's store will go the way of the Dodo, if people keep pushing against it.
 
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UWP may seem like a lame duck now, but it was pretty alarming at the time, from the release of Windows 8 on.
It's also why I'm sure Epic's store will go the way of the Dodo, if people keep pushing against it.
unfortunately the more time passes the less people will push .... and more and more people will get bored of pushing back

in fact - you can already see that happening ...

so ... yeah ...
 
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AHA-Lambda

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if you look at the ghosrecon.com ... there is the PC and PC epic section ... and the PC section has link to ubishop , its just not live yet
phew

I don't care at all about GR, but I don't want to see EGS getting permanent 3rd party exclusives of course
Is this episode worth playing?
Cos i'm kinda dreading it after how boring the first two were
It's much akin with the rest of the season tbh; it's enjoyable but definitely not as memorable as the first/BtS.
If you've already got the season I really wouldn't say it's not worth playing, and I think this is my pick for favourite of the 3 eps so far anyway.

But that was a heck of an ending for this episode I must say :O
Slightly vague how it ended, but if it does what I think it has then it's more impactful than any other cliffhanger we've seen I think.
 
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I don't remember here who really liked card games, but this just came out:
Seems interesting and really low price
 

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Not that i care about this game personally, but fuck these greedy cunts.

It's much akin with the rest of the season tbh; it's enjoyable but definitely not as memorably as the first/BtS.
If you've already got the season I really wouldn't say it's not worth playing, and I think this is my pick for favourite of the 3 eps so far anyway.

But that was a heck of an ending for this episode I must say :O
Slightly vague how it ended, but if it does what I think it has then it's more impactful than any other cliffhanger we've seen I think.
You're not getting my hopes up with that first sentence lol.
Guess i'll give it a try with some low expectations.
 
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NarohDethan

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My Mortal Kombat XL save is corrupted, and all progress is gone. Well, the two hours of gameplay I had on it, it still sucks.
 

Hektor

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I currently have backed Wasteland 3, System Shock Remake, Indivisible and Project Phoenix (EL OH EL).
Let's see whom of those will sell out to epic if any.
 
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I currently have backed Wasteland 3, System Shock Remake, Indivisible nd Porject Phoenix (EL OH EL).
Let's see whom of those will sell out to epic if any.
No way will Indivisible will sell out to Epic. Mike Z knows this better then anyone that it will backfire on him and he was outspoken on several things (Microsoft patches costed a lot during 360 era, companies not using his fightstick firmware, complaining about Sony Q&A taking too long). I doubt Lab Zero will have their game on Epic.
 

RionaaM

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Holy fuck at the ending of the new Life is Strange!
God damn!!!
I haven't played Ep 2 yet, the long wait kinda killed my enthusiasm. But I totally should!

No way will Indivisible will sell out to Epic. Mike Z knows this better then anyone that it will backfire on him and he was outspoken on several things (Microsoft patches costed a lot during 360 era, companies not using his fightstick firmware, complaining about Sony Q&A taking too long). I doubt Lab Zero will have their game on Epic.
No idea who Mike Z is, but I can recall another individual in the industry who used to badmouth MS a lot and complain about their practices, and if I told you what they are doing nowadays you wouldn't believe it. His name is similar to Hitman 2's latest mission :p
 
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Not that i care about this game personally
that's not really new ... we've known about this once since they announced the store ... it was in the sizzle reel ... all Annapurna games were - they sold out wholesale

Yep, Division 2 was my breaking point and AC is the big one that will sting for me too. They're not getting my money again.
same ... i literally don't own a single ubi game directly on uplay ... so i have even less reason to start using it full-time

their loss

I currently have backed Wasteland 3, System Shock Remake, Indivisible nd Porject Phoenix (EL OH EL).
Let's see whom of those will sell out to epic if any.
i don't think Wasteland is going to be exclusive ... not unless MS joins the dark side ;)

System Shock might if they get into financial trouble again - other than that i can't see them doing it willingly ... Stephen's a good dude

Indivisible might, yeah ... this one definitely has the biggest chance ... since, you know - 505

No way will Indivisible will sell out to Epic. Mike Z knows this better then anyone that it will backfire on him and he was outspoken on several things (Microsoft patches costed a lot during 360 era, companies not using his fightstick firmware, complaining about Sony Q&A taking too long). I doubt Lab Zero will have their game on Epic.
it's being published by 505 ...
 
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Just refunded Blood: Fresh Supply as I received a 50% off coupon for owning the previous release :p

Will rebuy it and use the discount.
 
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Bloodstained is also published by 505 and so far it doesn't have any indications that it's going to be removed from Steam. Maybe it depends on the developer?
or maybe epic weren't interested in Bloodstained

they might be in Indivisible, though ...

either way - out of those 3 Hektor mentioned, i'd say Indivisible has the biggest chance of going exclusive ... no matter what the dev's stance on it might be ... they have a publisher now, so they have no say in that really
 

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No way will Indivisible will sell out to Epic. Mike Z knows this better then anyone that it will backfire on him and he was outspoken on several things (Microsoft patches costed a lot during 360 era, companies not using his fightstick firmware, complaining about Sony Q&A taking too long). I doubt Lab Zero will have their game on Epic.
Last I read the publisher is 505 and they already are onboard with Control. Could be this is entirely out of Lab Zero's control.
 
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