Zhuge 100% knows that the one month delay is because of Tim paid for that. But it wouldn't fit the narrative right?
PC players already said this for months especially after Ubisoft's Division 2 deal.
On Steam? Because they can make it full Rockstar Launcher exclusive.
Always ask yourself this:
Lol, I wouldn't be shocked if it was in the millions.
"I don't care where or from whom people buy stuff. I only care thay they buy said stuff."
Well this news definitely deflated whatever remained of the air in BL3 sails, and id have to think the EGS warchest probably just took a huge hit with whatever RDR2 cost. Maybe we'll actually will see some indie titles again because their paydays will be smaller.
Attempt to manufacture controversy/rage. Shame it isn't just about steam tho, as RDR2 PC buyers have plenty of options. Who knew that anyone bought games from another storefront except steam? Anyone saying "steam fanboy" sure as fuck didn't.
I have no reason to be salty. If anything I'm enjoying seeing Epic's leverage get punier and punier.
I just wonder if Sweeny realizes he's being used by these big publishers. And if he is aware of it, it's obvious he doesn't care as long as he's sticking it to Valve. Which makes me wonder what Gabe did to the man to have him embark on this vendetta. It all seems so bizarre to me.
According to some, legend has it that Tim's heart was broken after the cancellation of Half Life 2 Episode 3 and thus, a villain was born. He needs to force Valve into such dire financial straits that Half Life 3 will need to be made.
Exclusive wallpaper downloads.
oh, he definitely knows ... and yes, he does that (ubi and RDR2 specifically) purely to take those games off steam
nothing ... it's just about greed ... he just wants money ... and he knows that if he keeps doing this stuff steam will stop being the only place to get all the big games (which wasn't really true, we all know that ... but that's how he sees it) ... and when that happens - big publishers will be coming to egs without having to be given big bags of money
Yeah it's a buyer's market. Keeping up with the backlog is a full-time job + overtime.
that's literally what i said in the post above yours
hahait's a good video ... good job, dude!
People with FOMO already play on console, people who want to get it day 1 on PC will get it on Rockstar Launcher because of all those pre order benefits, and people who want to get it on Steam will just wait for a month.
Zhuge is right here but for the wrong reasons, imho.
I disagree. It's just speculation on both our parts but I think it proves a much more damaging thing : that publishers are afraid of disastrous launches sales and other consequences resulting of EGS exclusivity. It's like they are dipping their toes are lightly as they can in the pool while taking the largest bag they can. This attitude inherently acknowledges the toxicity of EGS's brand.
more or less, yeah .... Sergey stopped talking to people pretty much completely (thankfully)
Hey I like your version a lot better than mine so hopefully you're right! It would be wonderful if customers managed to send such a strong message so soon.
Ah good, the Bobby Kotick approach, i.e. someone finally told them to STFU
volvo sitting on their asses not doing anything just another desktop icon (unlike consoles that cost hundreds of dollars) volvo desperately need competition egs is a good thing doesn't play on PC (at all) angrily calling everyone who doesn't like egs a whiny asshole trash video
I have deleted the video just now. It was very stupid of me to post it.
i mean - you can post it, lol ... i just don't know why you would?
Yes, I watched it. While he does make some good points, I don't think the EGS is an example of "good competition".i mean - you can post it, lol ... i just don't know why you would?
did you watch it before posting?
The shift has definitely happened. Multiple people are saying the deals are worse from Epic now and some of the more recent additions/poaches would struggle fo make the top 5000 on wishlists. Publishers, like Versus Evil, clearly approached Epic with a lowball offer for their DOA games that they themselves hadn't bothered to market just hoping to recoup costs. Good for Epic, they probably only have to offer up 2 to 5k sales up front, and they get to crow about more games leaving steam.
I really think Epic might've made some positive waves if they'd struck deals with publishers for Fortnite skins on games sold on EGS, followed by them actually making and releasing games that aren't Fortnite again, even if they're just paying another developer to do it. That'd be legitimate competition to Steam and in such a case, I might've actually bought some stuff on EGS just as I buy games on GOG, despite Steam being the center of gravity in my library.
It's definitely not the sign of a healthy market. Developers are just trying to bypass consumers now which is all sorts of fucked up and totally not the sign of a vibrant and healthy market.
Industry people were certain that exclusives would work and that customers would follow developers like cattle. Customers aren't playing ball and the industry doesn"t like it one bit.
That's exactly it. The video game industry is so weird. Journalists, analysts and other professionals mixing truth with misinformation. I suppose it will get worse as this whole EGS and exclusivity bullshit continues. I hope one day all of this goes away and EGS just fizzles out of existence.
I've said many times that I have a lot of faith in the PC gaming community. I feel confident that Epic will fail.
We are on the brink of "Fashion Designer" development. Meaning: pubs and devs design their game around the desire to shop it as an exclusive and not with the customer in mind, they don't need the customer.
The current Mixer report shows that you can't buy an audience.
https://medium.com/@ethan.may/896fc713d752
Holy shit that’s the best analogy I’ve seen of this so far.We are on the brink of "Fashion Designer" development. Meaning: pubs and devs design their game around the desire to shop it as an exclusive and not with the customer in mind, they don't need the customer.
Epic Exclusives: designed to appeal to the money, like a Fashion Star-Designer who makes stupid dresses that no normal person would wear.
Non-exclusive games:
You know, theoretically, from an artistic standpoint, this wouldn't be so bad and could lead to more acknowledgment for games as art. IF Timmy would create a foundation or something with a billion-dollar budget to further the goal of creating games as art or expanding the scope and technology of development. This would have great synergies with his own engine.
I don't think we're deep enough down the EGS rabbit hole for this to be a thing yet. We've heard, anecdotally of possibly 3-4 games on the platform selling well, with no actual numbers to back it up (actual sales data). Everyone else has been silent, and several of the developers can't not have seen the pushback, both legitimate and trolling; from the community just for taking the cash. Low "sales" and angry community will sink a dev fast after Epic stop calling.We are on the brink of "Fashion Designer" development. Meaning: pubs and devs design their game around the desire to shop it as an exclusive and not with the customer in mind, they don't need the customer.
Epic Exclusives: designed to appeal to the money, like a Fashion Star-Designer who makes stupid dresses that no normal person would wear.
Non-exclusive games: