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Monooboe

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I’m gonna be honest. I respect a man that can keep his word. If shit hits the fan and Tim doesnt take back his comments, I will gladly buy some games on his piece of shit store.

but we’ll see
Doesn't make any of the shit he does any less shit and shouldn't be forgiven for until he stops doing said shit. If he stands by what he said then praise that and I will also but I'm still not ok with the other stuff.
 

m_dorian

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I’m gonna be honest. I respect a man that can keep his word. If shit hits the fan and Tim doesnt take back his comments, I will gladly buy some games on his piece of shit store.

but we’ll see
I ll gladly buy something from his store when the exclusivity bullshit stops and when at a deep sale. He caused so much disruption to be let off so easy by me.

Ah and if he stops being an asshole, that will help a lot.
 

daxy

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It’s good that Sweeney spoke out about this and I hope he keeps his word.

That said, this doesn’t change anything about me waiting to put money into EGS until it provides a compelling service package.
 

NarohDethan

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Doesn't make any of the shit he does any less shit and shouldn't be forgiven for until he stops doing said shit. If he stands by what he said then praise that and I will also but I'm still not ok with the other stuff.
I ll gladly buy something from his store when the exclusivity bullshit stops and when at a deep sale. He caused so much disruption to be let off so easy by me.

Ah and if he stops being an asshole, that will help a lot.
Nah I'm good. I'm not about to be handing participation awards for being a reasonably decent human fucking being.
Oh dont get me wrong, he is still a jackass. I meant a situation where Tencent actively tries to fuck with him financially or otherwise. I’m not going to pour money into the EGS just for saying this.
 

lashman

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Well, it's all fine and dandy when the easy life is on but if you want to properly judge people you should do this when the iron is hot.

And what do you know? The upper management of Blizzard are hypocrites and only care about money.

What a thrilling surprize!
it's almost like we're all living under a system that encourages and rewards that kind of behaviour
 

Amzin

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The problem with Tim's statement is that while it sounds nice, it's far too broad and too easily pushed to the other extreme. It's actually a pretty common policy I believe for game companies to have a "no politics" stance during their tournaments, however the "punishment" is usually minor (a fine) to none. Acti-Blizzard reacted with basically a nuke, and effectively stood not just for the CCP but all of their unethical policies and politics. If they had just issued a "no politics" fine and moved on, I doubt anyone would be having this conversation.

All it takes is someone to say something hateful in a Fortnite interview before Epic have to renege on Tim's statement, although obviously more people would support that. It's just really dumb to say something so blanket when you should know it's not actually true.

Either way, a somewhat good if naive statement about free speech does not otherwise negate the damage and harm Epic is causing with their store nonsense. It is worth acknowledging as it is, in the context of talk about Hong Kong, but doesn't affect my opinion of Epic in any way.
 

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I cant see a day when I will ever buy a game on the eggs.

Its never going to be a good client and Im at a stage in life where there is no game that i 'must' have so if its trapped on EGS then i just pass and buy something else.

Also i feel that the way they have gone about entering the PC market shows a complete lack of respect for us the customers.
 

yuraya

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Sweeney can talk all the shit he wants but at the end of the day he has nothing to lose by provoking the Chinese govt. Fortnite isn't huge in China (may even be banned irrc) and neither is EGS.

Blizzard on the other hand spent many years trying to break into the Chinese market. And eventually they did. I remember reading an article where Overwatch sold like 5 million on PC in China alone. Same thing with Valve. It was well noted several years ago that over 50 million Chinese people created a Steam account to play Dota and PUGB. They spent so many years trying to penetrate that market. A lot of work went into that and that work was successful.

There are companies with something to lose in all of this. Epic is not one of those companies. Sweeney knows exactly what he is doing and people shouldn't be giving him the benefit of the doubt for such a blank statement.


EDIT: Also if Sweeney is so in favor of free speech....then why is he so opposed to Steam user reviews? People spend their hard earned money so shouldn't they be allowed to review these products and share their thoughts? Another cowardly example from a guy who is just running his mouth on twitter.
 
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and honestly, I'm not sure that Valve would take such a strong stance in defense of Dota professionals.
China is probably by far the biggest market for DotA in any statistic (some TI8 numbers even had China at 85%+ of total viewership), they aren't hoping to grow big in China, they are. One of the stories at TI has always been how the chinese teams do vs the rest of the world combined because quite often that was an even fight. I'd be extremely surprised to see them doing or saying anything to piss off the CCP.
 
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I think the answer to this is to just not go into China at all, considering it makes your company ethically compromised in ways that are unpalatable to your domestic audiences.

But capitalism doesn’t do ethics that are incompatible with the bottom line, so here we are. Lets be under no allusion, if Sweeney had a product that was big in China they would be oddly silent now.
 

Jkm23

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could've ended here and it would still be true ;)


lol if the red shoe fits epic.....


But seriously, its weird how people had NO IDEA how many western companies are over in china, "betraying their ideals" in order to score major cash there. Newsflash, google doesn't have any fucking ethics, neither does your favorite corp and especially Nintendo. Its the ethic of the dollar.

The best you can do is what you can while trying to survive.
 

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I see some comments on various places (not here) calling China a communist country, in opposition to capitalism, but I think it is not accurate. It became a capitalistic dictatorship years ago, they just kept the brand "Communist" on it. But it's not.

I guess that's why it's easier for some countries to "fight red commies" in this issue with HK.

But communism or socialism is not exactly what people experience in China. Not sure it ever was, but these days, it's not.
 

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I see some comments on various places (not here) calling China a communist country, in opposition to capitalism, but I think it is not accurate. It became a capitalistic dictatorship years ago, they just kept the brand "Communist" on it. But it's not.

I guess that's why it's easier for some countries to "fight red commies" in this issue with HK.

But communism or socialism is not exactly what people experience in China. Not sure it ever was, but these days, it's not.
yup ... it's 100% state capitalism

China is about as communist as USSR was (which is to say: not at all)
 

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I see some comments on various places (not here) calling China a communist country, in opposition to capitalism, but I think it is not accurate. It became a capitalistic dictatorship years ago, they just kept the brand "Communist" on it. But it's not.

I guess that's why it's easier for some countries to "fight red commies" in this issue with HK.

But communism or socialism is not exactly what people experience in China. Not sure it ever was, but these days, it's not.
The same people who claim Nazis were socialist because it was the party’s name. Idiots.
 

ISee

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I see some comments on various places (not here) calling China a communist country, in opposition to capitalism, but I think it is not accurate. It became a capitalistic dictatorship years ago, they just kept the brand "Communist" on it. But it's not.

I guess that's why it's easier for some countries to "fight red commies" in this issue with HK.

But communism or socialism is not exactly what people experience in China. Not sure it ever was, but these days, it's not.
Communist and Socialist states only existed by name. UdSSR, Poland, North Korea, East Germany (etc.) were all regimes using socialism as a mean to rule over people. They never had free elections, people were not equal, life was hard, normal people were poor, propaganda was a daily problem, free speech impossible, you had to celebrate and worship the prime political party, free thinkers and the opposition were imprisoned and most importantly they had a ruling class. People that were more equal than others. Those states never had something to do with true socialism and looking at past socialistic regimes and modern china: It's similar, but with china having open borders for foreigners and some kind of new middle class. Better, but still a communistic regime in the tradition of all other socialistic/communistic regimes we had in the past.

I agree with what you say, but just think that we have to acknowledge that socialism always went wrong and was never experienced by anybody.
 
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ISee

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most of the times it went wrong was with some help from other capitalist countries
I've hidden my response because we are going off topic here and there is no need to bother other people. If you want to keep talking about this, send me a pm. Or don't. I don't think we have strong opposing views here. But I still disagree with that part, because...

Maybe true in this example but whenever they "succeeded" they f* it up themselves or with the help of other communist countries. Russia, Poland, German Democratic Republic, North Korea, China, Croatia, Romania etc. No matter who tried it, it never worked mostly because we as a species are power and wealth hungry. It's the same reason why there is so much misery under capitalism, but history taught us that pure socialism doesn't work and that the idea itself is utopistic.
Doesn't mean that we should forget about it, there are good humanistic ideas in there that are worth following. But I still rather live in a capitalistic democracy than in one of those mentioned states during the cold war. And I know because I was born in Poland. That said, a democracy, with socialistic ideals (health care, education, basic income --> human rights and not done by the private sector) sound appealing to me. Especially one that doesn't value profit above all else. But nobody tried it, so who knows.
 

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Torn Banner using Steam to promote Chivalry 2. Disgusting.



 
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Torn Banner using Steam to promote Chivalry 2. Disgusting.

Par of the course. Companies promote their EGS trash since Day 1, just look at...whatever that Team17 game was, Exogenesis (?), they only stopped doing that after their forums got flooded with complaints of all sorts of pleasantness.
 
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Arsene

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John Wick Hex, A Knights Quest and Ghost Recon Breakpoint are all getting pretty mixed reviews. Poor Epic is missing out on all the great games releasing on Steam this week because they’re prioritizing their mediocre exclusives.

Oops, my bad, guess all that exposure on EGS didn't really help.
Releasing the same day as Kingdom Hearts 3 and a few days after Resident Evil 2 was an awful idea. The game would have bombed on Steam too.
 

Rosenkrantz

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Releasing the same day as Kingdom Hearts 3 and a few days after Resident Evil 2 was an awful idea. The game would have bombed on Steam too.
It's not a very good game from what I can gather. Maybe they'll add some improvements closer to Steam release, but 67 on MC is pretty rough for games (not that there are no enjoyable, but flawed games in that range) and doesn't inspire much confidence.
 
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Torn Banner using Steam to promote Chivalry 2. Disgusting.



Epic Games Store, a platform so good that developers are forced to use services belonging to its Competition® in order to advertise their products.

You can't make this stuff up.
 

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He’s absolutely lying out of his ass on the backpedal, he already said the interview was to “provide a competing viewpoint that might persuade listeners” and that he didn’t want to “avoid associating with an influencer because of disagreement with their views.” Why the fuck would he suddenly turn around and do a “reasoned debate” with someone he thought was an r/fuckepic guy after decrying the entire group as babies in the past? He saw that he was in danger of losing EGS’s status as being the dev-friendly store that idiot liberals champion and backpedaled. That’s all it is. Christ I fucking hate CEOs.
 
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Jkm23

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So this is the end of people acting like defending the EGS is the left-leaning position, right?
No.

Too many people deep in the advertising and bullshit fumes sent off by entities whose sole purpose for their existence is most legal pursuit of profit at the expense of anything else.
 
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EGS didn't have a search bar for several months, so it's only natural that the CEO has no idea how to use Google.
I mean, you joke...but what kind of CEO is responding to and setting up interviews through goddamn Twitter DMs?

Everything about the store is so haphazard. The rollout (and lack-thereof) of features. The messaging on exclusivity. The random Tim rants on Twitter. Everything.

Like I wouldn't be surprised if the timeline for this hilarity with The Quartering was like this:
  1. The news came out early this week that Fortnite's revenue is down 52% YoY.
  2. Tim's already in a bad mood, but he heads to his computer and decides to read some posts on /r/FuckEpic.
  3. The posts get his jimmies straight up fookin' rustled.
  4. After his jimmies are fully rustled, he sees a DM from The Quartering and in one of his fits of literal BabyRage agrees to it without even checking into the history of who he agreed to interview because he was unhinged again (like when he went on his multi-tweet rampage after the IGN article).
Sounds kind of tin-foil hat I know, but I find it totally believable that the CEO who is so unprofessional that he raged at IGN across multiple tweets would agree to an interview with no background check or running it by his PR team.
Why the fuck would he suddenly turn around and do a “reasoned debate” with someone he thought was an r/fuckepic guy after decrying the entire group as babies in the past?
He might have called them babies, but Timmy does routinely go onto that sub to argue with them.

The dude has 7 posts on there in the last two weeks, one of which is downvoted to like -900 and another that's at -500. I don't think the idea that he'd suddenly want to argue with a /r/fuckepic type in a more official setting is totally out of the question. The guy seriously sits on that subreddit and reads shit they write, and even responds to summon pings.

He's a genuine fecking weirdo.
 

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I'm not up to date on the latest happenings on the internet, either. I wouldn't know what this was if I didn't participate here. Meh.


As a vocational requirement, I did end up having to download EGS. I'm telling yall this because I find it funny that when it runs in the background, every time I restart Steam, EGS makes a pop-up on my taskbar reminding me of the free games they have available.

Surviving Mars is an option, which I already have from Humble Bundle. Nice try.

But talking to people who are more...casual...they love that EGS is buying their loyalty with all these freebies.
 
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