Exactly, and such a permission system has nothing to do with a walled garden. It's just a standard OS feature, or ought to be. You get that on Linux, and Windows has it to an extent as well. But then again, Microsoft's a hot mess these days and not living up in the least to what should be expected of an OS.
Yeah, my problem has always been about that -- how do you define when a company should be forced to allow other companies to use its platform? User base? Revenue? What I don't like about this Epic/Apple stuff is that litigation like this can lead to regulations and contractual norms that are just chaotic, reacting to whatever a court has done lately, where companies are still getting away with whatever they can. If you put all the R&D into building a hardware and OS platform, what are your obligations to your users? To all the business infrastructure around you that allowed you to build it (tax breaks, free software, etc). I'd rather see GDPR style top-down laws that lay out exactly what rights and responsibilities platform builders have to their customers and the general economy. How this could work worldwide is a mystery, however. Consumer education is probably a dead end, since people either don't care or don't have enough knowledge to make decisions about the technology they use.
Best case scenario the judge realizes how the whole thing is bullshit and reprimands both companies lmao
Yeah I guess I connect iOS so much with the App Store. I actually completely agree. That I should be able to have any app I want on it but that the OS in itself is super strict and gives me full overview and control over what happens.
100 percent speculation on my part, would not surprise me if the leaky nature of this case has lead to some calls.
My ideal scenario would be the following:
So, if I understand it corretly, there's a fairly reasonable chance some devs will never see a cent from egs since they will forever be paying the MG they got upfront.
Yeah, it seems that from July 2019 and onwards EGS exclusives have a lifetime clause on making back the minimum guarantee. So it is quite possible that some developers will never make any money on EGS beyond that first moneyhat. Pretty funny.
No, exclusivity and paying back the minimum guarantee are different things.
I knew that most people claim free games and never play them (this is not exclusive of the EGS) but that ratio ...There are two new columns:
No, it just means that you're not making money from the EGS UNTIL they're paid back (which there's the possibility that never happens).
Average playtime for Slime Rancher is 444 minutes (7.4 hours) though.
Wasn't Slime Rancher one of the early games? When even I still believed in EGS and would even played games there.XDAverage playtime for Slime Rancher is 444 minutes (7.4 hours) though.
So it's even worst than I thought since they still are replying to people asking for the Steam version like this:
That's because they are not permanent at all, if they were they would answer like Airborne Kingdom (which is a permanent exclusive and it's not listed btw) with a direct "no, we are a full EGS exclusive" and that's it.
I only understand that post now.poor baby eonden
The trial uses documents from a year ago, so things might have been negotiated again.
Ooblets signed for a lifetime? Damn that's even more scummy than I imagined, given the kickstarter and following communication debacle.
Seems the free lunch is over.
Not necessarily. Even though they have to payback they can still have their free lunch, they just need to make it last a year. After a year has passed, deploy a patch and maybe some new content or balancing and re-release it as "definitive edition" everywhere else. It's actually a pretty simple get-rich-quick scheme when you look at it.
It's still a free lunch, if as a developer you assume the EGS is a barren desert where no one is buying games anyway. You get paid, wait for a year, and then still get paid by your normal customers, albeit at a reduced price.
Lifetime? On Oddworld?
"This is a picture of my dick"
At fucking last we have official wording
Why? EGS publishing is great as it fully funds the project from the get-go meaning Epic has to live with the flop or success of the games.
