This. I assume they'll try to recoup some of their EGS losses with console sales, but eventually as a publisher they need to make more profit than their store alone will provide and they'll release on other pc storefronts. I expect they'll likely stealth drop a few after initial EGS exclusive periods, as I don't see them being big on the promotional front, unless it's "OMG X game has a thing in FortNite!" like they do now.
It will be interesting, and as I mentioned last year, Epic will be a direct competitor to the other publishers. What this means right now is hard to say and it may amount to nothing. Technically, they compete already on live service titles, but this is narrower. Valve has maintained a relatively neutral relationship with the industry from its tooling to its hardware and a very narrow first-party development that is nowhere on the level of impact that other publishers or developers would see as encroaching in their space.
The bolded part makes me wonder who is running their finances because either it's not someone trained in the field or they have cirrhosis and live on a mountain of red pens from all the loses Epic has racked up.
It honestly makes me wonder too, it is the sort of spend in the spaces you don't always see outside of acquisitions or large scale AAA. While gaming is definitely making lots of money these days, it is doing so in very particular ways, and Epic already occupies one of the major ways so...
Hopefully no one is cheaping out on what they ask from Epic these days. One of the many things learned from the Apple trial, folks should ask for more and not sell themselves short like some did.I wonder how much they paid for Loop Hero. It recently hit a million sold on PC, and is just now hitting Switch. I imagine it has to be a pretty penny.
www.gamesindustry.biz
I seem to remember Timmy making the same arguments about sales cheapening games and that EGS wouldn’t be going down that route.Hopefully no one is cheaping out on what they ask from Epic these days. One of the many things learned from the Apple trial, folks should ask for more and not sell themselves short like some did.
I just never want to hear or see any remarks about the devaluation of games, especially from sales, from the broader industry ever again.
Fun blast from the past on Origin's launch which includes talking about Steam sales
Steam sales "cheapen intellectual property" says EA Origin boss
David DeMartini is Senior Vice President of Global Ecommerce for Electronic Arts, and that means that EA's much-maligne…
"We won't be doing that. Obviously they think it's the right thing to do after a certain amount of time. I just think it cheapens your intellectual property. "
For every argument Timmy makes there's probably another tweet of his where he says the opposite.
I think it was something about not doing these seasonal mega sales because then the games that don't participate have difficulty competing for people's attention with the discounted games. So the solution* was obviously to include all games that cost $15 or more whether they want it or not via the coupons
Why would you buy that pile of crap for that insane price tag?
Who said I bought anything?
I haven't sailed high seas in a long, long time, but I made an exception here.
Telemetry is my main issue with it. I don't like that games are implementing it years after the fact even on non EGS games. I Don't consent in giving my data to Epic.
1. The main goal is to have devs stop using Steamworks
I see even a longer route with them going a la Ubisoft, just need a Epic account to play, then some time latter ask for EGS to be open if you want to play the game on steam, then when opportunity arises, drop Steam altogether if they can.
Meanwhile I was able to publish a Steam review no problem (well, yes, I had to remove 2k characters lol)
I think it depends on game. Tomb Raiders were made always online at beginning, but I think it was changed later.
I think it depends on how the developers implement it. I have some games installed with EOS (Hades and Griftlands) that work perfectly fine offline, but I know whoever implemented EOS for the Tomb Raider games botched it and accidentally gave it an always on requirement (although this was supposedly fixed). As someone who has a less-than-stellar internet connection that is almost guaranteed to have an outage at least once a month, I cannot stand games that have always on requirements.
I can't find any complete list, but theres a complete list of games on Steam that uses EOS:
Yeah, it is getting harder to ignore since pretty much any game that ships on EGS is pretty forced to use it if they offer any multiplayer content and are not offering up their own dedicated servers and account system. That said, a good number of those games listed do not depend on the SDK to run or operate normally, some just include it probably so they only have to ship one build to all stores (I would not be surprised if the Epic version includes the Steamworks files).
That's way more games than I thought that are using EOS. I don't understand why offline single player games requires online service
They don't, they are using EOS because of Telemetry, don't know if Epic is paying them to do so tho';
How do you add in the router?
I used this list on my pihole's blacklist. I think I'll verify it actually works as well.You can easily block EOS in your hosts file:
Steam Community :: Guide :: How to block Epic Online Services
That game you wishlisted has EOS? Or worse, maybe a game you have owned for months or even years suddenly has EOS installed into it? That's pretty uncool from the devs, but in this guide you'll find asteamcommunity.com
Let me know how it goes. I'll be adding them to my host file next chance i get
So far I tried to launch a couple games quickly and see what happens, un/fortunately non of them tried to contact any epic servers. I tried Warframe, Tomb Raider, Titan Quest Anniversary, North Guard. I might try later to launch one and try and play for an hour or something to see if it triggers, but just launching, running through menus and starting a multiplayer host match or single player didn't trigger them.
Hopefully warframe doesnt break with this. It's the one multiplayer game I in any way frequent.
Epic is wiggling its money dick around I see, the winter sale must have been a disaster for them to go all out like this.It seems r/pcgaming has added some kind of automoderator in EGS related threads that auto-hides comments. Only comments that are positive about Epic are manually restored by the mods.
Example:
I guess every method to raise EGS reputation is good enough nowadays
This is a bit thin though. Going to need a bit more to go on.It seems r/pcgaming has added some kind of automoderator in EGS related threads that auto-hides comments. Only comments that are positive about Epic are manually restored by the mods.
Example:
I guess every method to raise EGS reputation is good enough nowadays
My own comments were immediately deleted as well. It seems the bot automatically removes every comment containing certain words (Epic, EGS etc), while only the positive comments are restored by the mods later.
