Thanks guys. I don't really care about any of these games, but I'll ignore them on Steam to make sure it stays this way.
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also Phantom Brigade and Griftlands are Eggsy Accessees .... and v1.0 launch is simultaneous
And not sure about What the Golf ... the newspage on fig about EGS is backer locked
anyone here backed it?
And not sure about What the Golf ... the newspage on fig about EGS is backer locked
anyone here backed it?
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I just read that Shenmue III going to EGS.
EGS gonna kill Kickstarters, not Steam.
EGS gonna kill Kickstarters, not Steam.
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And another Fig game became exclusive as well.
It's the 3rd or 4th so far.
The Shenmue comment section is up to 14 pages
When you selectively quote my reply, it does make it look like im trying to push my own ideological bent. I was merely saying if Epic could take the credit, they would. In this case, they can't it's simply Activision's fault
I wonder when they made the Epic deal. Like back in the beginning when people thought it might be cool, or just recently when it was pretty obvious people would hate it. I wonder if they were offered a fat check and didn't care about the fallout, or if they had no idea it would be such a problem for people.
I bet the money is just so good it's hard to turn down, even if you have to piss everyone off in the process. I still can't believe Epic doesn't realize the damage their doing by forcing backers to use their service. That should have been the first thing that got fixed after the first deal was revealed.
Not much for me tg but Shenmue 3 hurts the most of any game yet. How much shit was needed for that game to happen already? SEGA's blessings, people's crowd funding, Sony pitching in, now Epic? I expected better Suzuki-san. I'll play this a year past the release on sale, I can't skip but I'll wait if you'll be like that.
I reinstalled 1 & 2 on Steam last night ffs. I feel like deleting it. Edit: did. I thought I could distance myself from the issue and objectively discuss. Until now.
I reinstalled 1 & 2 on Steam last night ffs. I feel like deleting it. Edit: did. I thought I could distance myself from the issue and objectively discuss. Until now.
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How can they actually post that? Please, Deep Silver, elaborate on that statement. How is EGS the most enjoyable experience on PC? Is there a feature of the EGS that makes it better? No? Fuck off.
Epic doesn't view it as damage though. Or if they do, that it's beneficial damage. Their whole deal is buying on developers, so they can also buy on their customers. The dumb thing for the devs though, is that it costs them the goodwill of their fanbase, divides them, and makes people feel like they are being taken advantage of. So I wonder how often the dev is just aloof to the backlash that awaits them, or if they really just want that short term cash and DGAF.
I also think that cash grab mentality might have always been the point of Shenmue 3. I didn't back it because it felt like such a weird thing to need a kickstarter over and it seemed shifty.
i would like to think that there is at least ONE person somewhere there that is thinking this was a mistake but then again when money is involved companies dont give a shit
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Yeah, they really don't.
Since what they are getting is surely more than what they received from backers, they don't care.
The guys from Phoenix Point even had the nerve to say so themselves. Even if they refunded everyone, they would still be better financially, so they don't care.
Obviously, no one thinks about anything other than the short-term result.
Imho it has been a fairly recent thing.
Fuck, a week ago they sent an email with the system requirements saying that it required a Steam account.
A while ago they even made us choose for the reward to be on PS4 or Steam. :/
So, it seems that Epic will start buying Early Accesses to minimize the PR hit for them and their partners in idiocy.
This is very very funny.
ook its on their discordAnd not sure about What the Golf ... the newspage on fig about EGS is backer locked
anyone here backed it?
At least they are being honest and upfront about it, all they care about is money and you have to respect that to a degree. It's better than the typical bullshit other companies throw at us.ook its on their discord
Still it's a shit move and it guarantees that as far as I'm concerned they'll never see a cent from me.
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We have to respect it? Screw that!
I mean, if a guy came to you to steal your wallet, would you respect him more if he told you beforehand he was going to do it?
Yeah that's interesting. That's a straight up sell out. Which is pretty inconsistent with what Kickstarters are for.
If they're small devs I can sympathize...
But I still dont give a shit. I hope the money serves them well and see you when their games hit the Humble Bundle $1 tier.
But I still dont give a shit. I hope the money serves them well and see you when their games hit the Humble Bundle $1 tier.
Considering the type of disingenuous discourse these devs/pubs usually throw at us when these types of deals are announced, I much prefer to read an honest answer even though I dislike the content of the message. Honesty is a respectable trait.We have to respect it? Screw that!
I mean, if a guy came to you to steal your wallet, would you respect him more if he told you beforehand he was going to do it?
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Well, to be fair they are being honest, because they are telling you they are being... dishonest?
Different speech, same result.
I understand what you mean, but I can't possibly respect a developer who takes someone's money under a pretence, and then tells those same people that they are out of luck, someone came and offered them more. We hope you understand, guys.
Disgusting. Ysnet and Deep Silver are toasted for me.
That's shitty. Suck it up and be happy with Epic's money rather than hold people's pledge for things you won't deliver (while releasing the game) hostage.
Yeah, Deep Silver is dead for me. They just had the face to say 'too bad that you don't like epic, your money is ours'.
Lol good luck with that. "Let's push back against the bored millennials who are always online and ready to fight" doesn't seem to be a winning strategy most of the time.
Amazing. As if not actually delivering what people actually paid for, and then making up the dumbest lie in the universe "EGS delivers the best experience", now they don't even allow you to refund?
Garbage ass company and I sincerely hope the game bombs. Fuck them.
Also, please dont defend Yu Suzuki.
He was the one asking for funds, he is ultimately responsible for the project.
He was the one asking for funds, he is ultimately responsible for the project.
yeah, and Deep Silver is redirecting every single person complaining about this to complain directly to YS Net.
Deep Silver and Ys Net can fuck right off with this. What absolute bullshit.
Deep Silver is now on my shitlist for life. Fuck them.
Yu Suzuki should be ashamed for signing this deal in the first place.
And we though the previous "big deal, we could refund everyone and it woudn't make a difference" from Phoenix Point was bad....
Well, this didn't save me the money of buying Shenmue 1 and 2 on Steam because I did that already in some sale, but it did spare me of the time playing them (never did before) so I don't become even more angry with this situation.
"Sorry, but f*ck you... no refunds".
I don't know, though; the people running away from an angry crowd shouting "No refunds!" are usually well-intentioned, honest folk. Right?
I really hope massive amounts of people are not purchasing from EGS.
bigFUCKINGedit: I think Shenmue III is now in BL3 category; I don't want it even if it does come to Steam
bigFUCKINGedit: I think Shenmue III is now in BL3 category; I don't want it even if it does come to Steam
Well, I mean, you don't offer a free game every week for the rest of 2019 out of the goodness of your heart.
I assume the timeframe for a chargeback has passed, but if it hasn't, I would issue the chargeback immediately.
Man I just told my girlfriend about this mess and she is fucking livid, and she doesnt even game on PC. Also told me that she was interested on the game (the PS4 version) but now Deep Silver can get fucked.
Doing my part I guess haha
Doing my part I guess haha
There's not much to cover at this E3, so scathing critiques of this response by Deep Silver is incoming from games journalists any second now right?
Just woke up, I have to say this show wasn't so bad. No game I cared about, but Dontnod hurts. I've been rooting for them since Remember Me, they will have to do without me and others now.
What Yu Suzuki and Deep Silver did for Shenmu III is one of the most galling, outrageous and greedy move the gaming industry has ever seen. I mean check the history :
"No, you don't get refunds. This is how it is. Fuck you."
I don't know if it's a Japanese idea to sound so unapologetic and authoritarian when you are so much in the wrong but it's not going to do wonders for them.
Has the press said anything yet about this or the impact Epic has on kickstarter which is, you know, the seedbed of most indies, gaming innovation and triumphs since 2012?
What Yu Suzuki and Deep Silver did for Shenmu III is one of the most galling, outrageous and greedy move the gaming industry has ever seen. I mean check the history :
- They rode Sony's E3, gaining a publicity most kickstarter and indies can only dream about
- They had a massive Kickstarter success and secured a publisher
- They promised Steam keys and even sent a poll to that effect a while ago
"No, you don't get refunds. This is how it is. Fuck you."
I don't know if it's a Japanese idea to sound so unapologetic and authoritarian when you are so much in the wrong but it's not going to do wonders for them.
Has the press said anything yet about this or the impact Epic has on kickstarter which is, you know, the seedbed of most indies, gaming innovation and triumphs since 2012?
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I think Epic paid them so much money that they don't care about pissing off their backers, we don't matter anymore. They have what they want, and we can all go pound sand for all they care.
Honestly, this entire deal feels like Epic twisting a knife in on Steam and the PC Playerbase just to be spiteful. Shenmue III is going to bomb big time on the EGS. The Fortnite kids won't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and anyone who was ever interested in it in the first place probably backed the Kickstarter. This is Sweeny saying "Fuck you, you don't like EGS, well you're going to fucking use it whether you like it or not." And I'm sure he paid a mint to make sure of that. He needed a big WIN after Microsoft basically made them look like idiots the last 2 weeks, but I'm really not sure this is the type of win that's going to get them anywhere.
Whatever the case, I'll probably end up deleting the email with the EGS key. I know that sounds petty, but I refuse to be strong-armed into doing something that I'm 100% against.
I'll tell you this though. I've backed almost 50 projects on Kickstarter over the last 5-6 years, and I'm done. Never again. I don't care if that means some amazing games may never see the light of day now. I will not risk a penny of my money going to support the EGS.
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