And we hadnt heard a peep about that, while Blops 1 got shut down yesterday and we already had some comments here and reddit lmao
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Valve should close EVERY community hub for these exclusive games until the official release date on Steam.
I agree. They are getting free publicity while getting shafted as the bad guy.
So it seems that EpicGamer is trying to astroturf for epic on some other sites. thankfully, no one is having it lol.
I tend to not even go to other sites these day, especially PC Gamer. The ONLY thing I like at PC Gamer is "Five new Steam games you probably missed," and I don't even follow that much anymore. Most of my PC game news comes from here on my Steam friend activity. Money can buy anything and we are at a point where that in trumping real news.
MS is a GOG partner now, this is the part where we realize that Gears of War will be on GOG and not EGS and laugh.
Same, the Activity feed is one of the biggest things I use when it comes to finding new games to buy (or even realizing something is on Steam, as you said). It's so weird that almost no other launchers have it, because it's a super useful feature.
I'd buy that for the DRM free glory.
I turned some of my privacy options off so people can see my feed... because I depend so much on others.
Yeah, I'm looking at you, InquisitorAles!
Freelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
www.resetera.com
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
www.resetera.com
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Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
www.resetera.com
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
www.resetera.com
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Imagine going through the hassle of verification and eat a ban just like that.Freelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
Incredible
Freelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
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I'm not sure it's absurd. Last Light sold very mediocre at release, because many people (including myself) were pissed that the Rangers Mode (how the game was meant to be played according the devs) was paid dlc.
Also, Metro Exodus was the best selling game on Steam after EGS exclusivity was announced.
So 2.5x better may be correct. But the sales on EGS are probably not very impressive.
yeah, that HAS to be the case ... otherwise they'd just give an actual number like they did with WWZ and Satisfactory
... and since they haven't - we can kinda/sorta assume it sold less than 250k?
I am not surprised but i am extremely disappointed because, judging from this "journalist" here, lack of empathy and understanding seems to be in all time high.Freelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
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I am going to get my self a beer and belch in honor of his contribution to our hobby.
yeah, the most disappointing thing is that most of the people writing about that stuff aren't even trying to understand "the other side" ... they just automatically assume everyone complaining about egs is a steam fanboy and doesn't want to "click another icon"
like, i can kinda/sorta excuse them not knowing why people are angry .... but i certainly can't excuse them not even trying to understand why ...
On EGS? Yeah definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if pre-orders on Steam were higher than the number of sales on EGS during launch week.... and since they haven't - we can kinda/sorta assume it sold less than 250k?
Its the brazen assumption that Im an idiot that bugs me the most regarding these "Game" "Journalists".
Gives the legitimate ones a bad name.
Gives the legitimate ones a bad name.
They are not journalists, they are pundits.
Very possible they murdered the IP on PC going forward.yeah, that HAS to be the case ... otherwise they'd just give an actual number like they did with WWZ and Satisfactory
... and since they haven't - we can kinda/sorta assume it sold less than 250k?
Should be a warning to anyone else who wants to try that shit.
I wonder how Borderlands 3 will do. Maybe since the delay is only six months, people might be even more inclined to wait for it.
I will wait until BL3 is $2 on Steam. It is what I paid for 2, and much more money than Randy deserves.
Unfortunately I think Borderlands 3 will sell "well" since the franchise is very big on PC. It will be a fraction of what it would have sold on Steam, but since BL2 impressive numbers also come from a very long tail they can probably still make some of those great "launch period" comparisons just as they did with Metro.
And speaking of Metro, the exact wording of the press release was:
As usual, when they have good numbers, they will shout about them instead of hiding behind nebulous statements. For the big publishers is a good way to justify the backlash and the small indies will do anything Epic demands to try to ensure the next moneyhat.
Oh... and yes, I will admit to having a smile on my face after seeing the "journalist" getting a ban for a "it's just another launcher" post
And speaking of Metro, the exact wording of the press release was:
So it shouldn't include Steam pre-orders, but I guess they could include the EGS "guaranteed sales" in there... but of course Sweeney would never be this dishonest... right?
As usual, when they have good numbers, they will shout about them instead of hiding behind nebulous statements. For the big publishers is a good way to justify the backlash and the small indies will do anything Epic demands to try to ensure the next moneyhat.
Oh... and yes, I will admit to having a smile on my face after seeing the "journalist" getting a ban for a "it's just another launcher" post
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I tweeted about how PCGamer is unreliable and one of their freelance writers unfollowed me. He’s an old pal from GAF and I didn’t realise he’d written for them, but he was doing the whole “EGS is no big deal, just another launcher” spiel on Twitter a month or two back and now it makes sense.
Was it the same person who just pulled the same thing in the Era Shenmue thread?
Borderlands 3 is gonna be Epic’s ace in the hole and how long we’re gonna have to deal with it depends entirely on its success. To be clear, it absolutely will BE successful - the franchise has a ton of cache with people who don’t get angry and post on internet gaming boards. But visibility is the chief concern, because BL3 will be the first introduction to EGS for a lot of non-hardcore gamers out there.
So prepare for headaches when it hits. Pitchford and Sweeney WILL have a big old bragfest at launch. It’s just about mitigating the damage at this point.
So prepare for headaches when it hits. Pitchford and Sweeney WILL have a big old bragfest at launch. It’s just about mitigating the damage at this point.
Wow. And that 3 day ban will surely make him reconsider his life choices.Freelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
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/r/fuckepic is really getting to him
This makes me wonder what if out of 507,374 Satisfactory's copies sold, 500k of them are "pre-ordered" by Epic?
Wonder how it will go over if the game is a mess at launch. How's the refund system at the moment?
Don't know about all of that, wouldn't they then be gloating about sales numbers all the time instead of only.... three times until now?
Probably not as many as 500k. Samurai Shodown is a bigger title than Infinifactory and they were already in the “hundreds of thousands” range, but for Infinifactory I’d say maybe 100-200k are bought by Epic?
Christ... Adding another developer to my avoid list.Chivalry 2 devs are now advertising the Epic Game Store on Steam:
Chivalry: Medieval Warfare :: Chivalry 2 announced
They really have no shame...
might as well add Tripwire as a whole ... they seem to be fully sold out to epic
And with places like N4G, anybody can be a game journalist.
Idiot.
There's a huge threadmark that says "STEAM KEYS WERE PART OF THE DEAL. DO NOT DENY THIS."
SMH, game journalism has lost its mind with EG$. It's gone full on fake news.
Yeah, it's EG$ from now on. Just like it was M$ when they were buying up companies like Rare.
Freelance writer or influencer, what's the difference at this point anyway.
I was already convinced a year ago that pc gamer was essentially bought by epic, too bad there is no hard proof but to get that I guess you have to depend on whistleblowers (who whistleblow to whom exactly, the press?) or illegal activities. And it's just a advertising publication so they don't have to adhere to a press codex.
oh a checks notes PC Gamer contributorFreelance games journalist who writes for pc gamer gets banned on Era because of "it's just another icon" posts:
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
lol. Well, looks like backers will get what they want: to click on one symbol instead of another before playing a game.
He also called the issues pc gamerd are having with Epic "based on nothing"
Ys net has heard the concerns regarding Epic Games Store exclusivity for Shenmue III and will assess the situation [Read Staff Post Before Posting]
You're both right, happy to go into more detail instead of being reductive. The case that backers deserve a Steam version is thin to begin with, and mostly based on the pre-2019 assumption that if you're buying a game on PC, you're buying it for Steam. And I think this intersects with a separate...
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I just thought of something.
So, if Epic bought 500k preorder keys from a publisher, and that is used to bolster their sales numbers, what exactly happens to the keys?
Are they sold "again" through the store? Who gets the cash? Epic or the publisher? I mean, Epic does own them now, not thr publisher...
Or are they only "metaphorical" keys?
So, if Epic bought 500k preorder keys from a publisher, and that is used to bolster their sales numbers, what exactly happens to the keys?
Are they sold "again" through the store? Who gets the cash? Epic or the publisher? I mean, Epic does own them now, not thr publisher...
Or are they only "metaphorical" keys?
The pub doesn't make an extra dime until those 500k are sold. They're basically getting paid upfront for exclusivity.
They're metaphorical sales. I highly doubt any keys are generated. The publisher/dev is just paid the equivalent of that number of sales
edit: at least this is how I understand the agreements
that seems to be the case, yes ... until whatever they paid for exclusivity is earned back by them
Yeah, what Epic makes has to go back to what they spent, but with 20%, right? There ain’t no way they are making the sales for Epic to come out above. It isn’t sustainable... and it won’t catch on.
So if your game never hits, let's say, 500k, you are basically tied to whatever Epic paid you
Lmao good luck with that.
Lmao good luck with that.
Link me, babe. It’s awesome. I’d love to use my writing talents. I’m just saying that I’ve read a lot of garbage from that place over the years. And now that we see established journalists being bought, I just toss my hands up everywhere.
I literally just posted an article about Saladin's Conquest on N4G last night.
Which I feel all but BL3 could see this fate.