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I forgot to do this. Got to wait for their first spam message I guess.
If you haven't played the game yet, it's really, really, really good.
Hope you don't have thalassophobia!
Bumping so that all criticism etc. Of egs is posted in one place to not muck up the main discussion thread.
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Things have been slowing down lately, especially in exclusive announcements. Or is it just the calm before the storm at E3 next month?
Theyre definitely saving some announcements for Pc gaming show.
I could see that being their last big push before they slowly begin to settle.
Ubisofts E3 conference might also have some "co-exclusives".
I'll go into E3 with the mindset that everything western will be EGS until proven otherwise.
this is my hope tbh. When MicroSoft says they wanna help and embrace PC gaming again... I really hope they mean it like this. Halo MCC is a great step in the right direction, but it's just a single bridge.
that would be nice ... at least release the old games no one could possibly be buying on winstore any more ... like FH3, Halo Wars 2 etc.
honestly i don't think we'll see any more games from them on steam until the entire MCC is finished and has been out for a while (to let them see how it's doing on steam)
Feel free to ignore these tweets just as you would ignore their game once it goes up on steam. :v
Yes of course, not spending my money on games involved in Epic's exclusivity deals. It's just sad that so many PC gamers don't care and decided to support Epic and the devs involved anyway.
Forza Horizon on Steam would be amazing. Or selling an unencrypted win32 version on their own store is good enough for me as well. I just don't want to support locked down UWP games.
Honestly would not be shocked if most of the unannounced AAA games planned to be announced at E3 will be EGS exclusive because (shocker) big publishers don't give a shit about customers. Especially not PC ones.
Hopefully MS starts bringing their games to Steam at launch and MCC isn't just a one time fluke. I don't mind using Xbox Live integration but I'd kill for Gears 5 + Ori 2 on Steam.
yeah, it would be ... honestly, though - i don't think that's gonna happen, even if MCC sells incredibly well
Playground have clearly moved on from FH3 a loooong time ago 100% this .... PC has always been (and still CLEARLY is) a 3rd class platform for all AAA publishers ... if that wasn't the case - PC wouldn't be an afterthought when it comes to ports and their quality
it's painfully obvious that consoles are the main platform for all those games
Do you think there is a realistic chance of publishers stirring up controversy by linking themselves to the EGS at E3? By now it's been shown to be a rather toxic brand and even Epic seems to be trying to do something about it, meaning the effect is significant.
Even if they decided to go with it for their blockbuster titles, which I doubt, I think they'd pull a gearbox and announce it after the show. This is exactly the type of things, along with MTX and lootboxes, that they try to sneak under the radar.
Even if they decided to go with it for their blockbuster titles, which I doubt, I think they'd pull a gearbox and announce it after the show. This is exactly the type of things, along with MTX and lootboxes, that they try to sneak under the radar.
I expect Epic to communicate about EGS exclusives in the PC gaming show, while bragging how well Metro Exodus, Anno 1800, Satisfactory, Spellbreak and WWZ are doing despite being (semi)exclusive to their store.
Epic will also use the latter in combination with millions of dollars to buy exclusivity for AAA games anyway. I don't think publishers care about our "outrage". Epic's millions will make up for the loss of sales they get for going EGS exclusive.
I also expect the PC version of RDR2 to be at least 6 months timed exclusive on EGS + Social Club.
oh, that's DEFINITELY going to happen ... they'll start with "look how great all those current exclusives are selling" and then go "here are more exclusives we paid for" ... i doubt they'll wait to announce them after the show ... those "numbers" (no matter how vague - we've already seen everyone throwing around that 2.5x thing as a "gotcha, steam fanboys!") will just serve as a "shut up, whiners" for everyone in the audience
... and then after that they'll just start selling social club keys in other stores ... much like ubi, i really don't expect them to come back to steam once the exclusivity deal is over (sadly)
I had forgotten about that show. On the other hand it's not exactly the most watched one but Ge0force definitely has a point. It does seem likely that they'll spin whatever positive numbers they have for all their worth.
RDR2 as an EGS exclusive seems really far-fetched to me. The magnitude of loss Epic would have to cover with the scale of this game's audience seems a little over the top. Even in the worst-case scenario that Steam represents barely something like 20% superior sales, that translates to a hell of a lot for a game like this. I don't see it unless Take 2 wants to play Epic's long game and try to push Steam out, which I feel is even more unlikely.
No matter which angle I try to see, it seems difficult to see as a sound move financially speaking for Take 2, unless Borderlands 3 demonstrates that the Steam sales following the end of exclusivity make up for the perceived loss.
they might be waiting for that, yeah ... we all know RDR2 won't be coming out on PC until after the next-gen remaster is out on consoles .... so in like a year or so (+ however long they decide to delay the PC version after those ... just like they did with GTAV)
Until I see cold hard, actual numbers, I don't believe any game has been a runaway success for any of the devs.
And at the PCGaming Show at E3 I expect more of the same vague bullshit we've seen thus far. It'll have plenty of announcements touting those 2.5x better as the reason at the show I'm sure. Unless Gabe is going to show up with their VR set.
Half-Life 3 exclusive for Valve Index. Internet would be fun to read the next few weeks.
I think a big thing is, for companies like Ubisoft and Rockstar that already have their own launcher, launching on that and EGS is basically just like being exclusive to their own store without as much backlash. Look at The Division 2's PC sales leaning much more towards uPlay, for example.
This is something I want to keep an eye on. Microsoft played the "we're listening" card with the MCC, and I can see them just kind of forgetting all that with their later releases.
yes, of course ... and ubi know it .... and so does epic - like i already said, they aren't doing this to make money (for now, at least) ... they're doing this ONLY to hurt steam as much as they can
that's why they don't even care those ubi games they're selling are essentially uplay copies and that they don't get a single cent from any of the "micro"transactions - it was never about that ... it was ALWAYS about hurting steam
so, world war z had around 250k copies sold in the epic store. ugh, saying that gives me a bad taste in my mouth.
screenrant.com
World War Z Exceeds Sales Expectations Thanks to Epic Games Store
World War Z exceeds its PC sales expectations, in part due to its exclusivity on the Epic Games Store.
screenrant.com
Phil himself at least, is passionate about it, so I could see him pushing it further. It would help if Halo MCC can be bought soon so that he can show the demand for MS titles on Steam.
yeah ... i wish they'd put preorders up already .... at least for Reach, doesn't even have to be the entire thing
I mean some people expected a flop but a popular licensed IP and a decently large studio surely should in theory expect to sell better than small indie thing a la Risk of Rain 2 or just pack up and go home? That screenrant "article" is pure bs with the additional "information" presenting EGS as made solely to pressure Valve into reducing their fee while ignoring all the 0% fee use cases and everything else they offer both developers and consumers as usual. Why does the fee % even matter if the net result is bigger profits for everyone involved? Spiderweb took ages to get on Steam and got 100% prior to that but when they got on Steam their profits skyrocketed with their newfound market reach. Who can arbitrarily decide that wasn't good enough? And why doesn't anyone question the need to pay for exclusives at all? If the fee is the be all end all why do they need to buy out exclusives, developers would flock to EGS as the vast majority continue to do on Steam without any pressure or exclusivity arrangement put on them and their projects. How's that not a hint on the reality of the situation? Never mind arbitrarily deciding to refuse the few developers who did approach them of their own free will showing another major difference to Steam aligning itself with indie developer interests more than EGS ever will as they'll only ever care for the subjectively fanciest of them all throwing the rest under the bus.
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I wouldn't let it get you down too much. Zombie games always sell well at first no matter where they release or their quality.
State of Decay 2, a game that launched only on two platforms and with a bunch of issues, still managed over 2 million sales in two weeks. Granted I couldn't find any splits between Xbox and Windows Store, but I'm willing to bet it did similar numbers to WWZ.
Basically what I"m getting at is that it doesn't necessarily mean those players will buy other games on Epic's store. They just go to wherever the newest zombie game is and in all honesty given how large that audience still is that 250k, while not bad, could have easily tripled that if the game released on more storefronts.
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For the bigger companies like Ubi or Rockstar or whomever, 88% or 100% is greater than 70% can is a much better sell to investors.
For an indie, if they arent given a truckload of cash up front, the 88% doesn't matter nearly as much if it's coming from a much smaller pool of cash. Clearly the media is trying to make the argument that the Steam store and the launcher are not one in the same, as it's the only way to really swallow the cognitive dissonance of how Steam hasn't done any updating or improving in X years, and does't help indies. Apparently some of the media have also latched onto the idea of curation being a good thing in the last few months.
I would agree Valves silence/hands off approach is maybe not the best, but EGS's curation is not aimed at indie devs with good games as it is devs with known cache in the pc community that might be perceived as hurting Steam if they arent there.
Unless they're more open about why devs/games are rejected than say gog or steam are, then they aren't any better for anyone at this point
Epic paid a bunch of popular streamers to play the game, which may have resulted in many casual gamers buying WWZ. Also, it's a zombie game with an obvious L4D influence. Last but not least the game was very cheap in certain countries.
This said, 250k sales is still 250k too much. Sad that so many people are fine with Epic's moneyhatting strategy.
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so, world war z had around 250k copies sold in the epic store. ugh, saying that gives me a bad taste in my mouth.
World War Z Exceeds Sales Expectations Thanks to Epic Games Store
World War Z exceeds its PC sales expectations, in part due to its exclusivity on the Epic Games Store.
If you're mourning now, you might want to take two months off from the internet when Borderlands 3 comes out.
What RDR Remaster???
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Yeah there's no doubt that Borderlands 3 will do well. Obviously not as well as it could have, but still more than it should as a EGS exclusive.
I would be leery about any numbers that are thrown around after release though. They've already been extremely vague with other games and I can only presume that it will be infinitely worse with Pitchford involved.
I would be leery about any numbers that are thrown around after release though. They've already been extremely vague with other games and I can only presume that it will be infinitely worse with Pitchford involved.
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Yeah, PC Gamer isn't even a credible source anymore. It's like EGS Gamer now.
To be honest being an inhouse-+EGS exclusive isn't so bad because it means only a fraction of the sales will go to Epic, unless I'm missing something. Anno 1800 is a good case in point, I don't recall Epic talking up their sales an awful lot. It's more about hurting Steam, which I strongly doubt they can.
IMO if a game is releasing on Steam months later anyway, it will train people to wait when it is already heavely discounted. If someone's already waited months to get a game, they can wait a few months for a nice price reduction.
RDR2 remaster .... they'll probably do it again, just like they did with GTAV
yeah ... PC players are anything if not patient
look at all those ports of old-ass console games that still sell extremely well on PC
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RDR2 remaster .... they'll probably do it again, just like they did with GTAV
yeah ... PC players are anything if not patient
Yep. See: Bayonetta. I'm holding off on triple-dipping because I'm waiting to see what happens with Bayonetta 3.
I bought Bayo on PS3, played for like two hours and thought it was trash. Bought the Wii U Bayo 1/2 bundle and decided that it is one of the best action games of all time. A straight 10 in the gameplay aspect.
Ah, you mean RDR2 port. I wouldn't think the PC version would require a "remaster." Just--er--primarily 60 fps/unlocked fps. RDR 1 could use a remaster though....
Epic only has so much "Fuck Valve" money lying around.
no, i mean the remaster .... just like GTAV ... GTAV on PC isn't the PS360 version ... it's a port of the remastered version they released for Xbone/PS4
The truly unfortunate thing about the EGS is that i cannot think of anything positive to say about it.
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Because people who actually play video games recognize it as a regression even though all the money they're pushing to promote it is saying otherwise.
What's crazy to me is that tech-bros are generally libertarian. Exclusivity is a reduction, not an augmentation, of freedom (of choice). Like, wut?
Well, so far it has saved me $120, from not buying Metro and BL3
Yeah, that's about all I can say for it in a positive light so far as well.
Tim Sweeney has actually saved me money by continuing to open his yapper and by EGS being as bad as it is.
Thanks Tim!
nah. no need for this. just post all the criticism everywhere. in separate threads. in the steam thread. everywhere. but not in its own egs store thread. because that shit doesn't deserve one. so i vote for locking this thread.
Epic is giving away some awesome free games. That's the only positive thing that I can say about it tho (which is the reason why I don't even claim the free games anymore, f*ck Epic!)
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If you're in the mood for some parody stuff: Epic is now pissing off anime fans as well by buying exclusivity for popular series
'OreGairu' Season 3 to be Streamed Exclusively on the Epic Games Store - Anime Maru
Epic Games has recently acquired exclusive streaming rights to the highly anticipated third season of My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU, also known as OreGairu. The anime series will be distributed...
www.animemaru.com
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