|OT| Honkai: Star Rail | Trails to the Wallet
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This patch has been really good imo.
This Xianzhou mini-arc has been very strong and makes me look forward to the continuation of this storyline. Don't really understand why they put Jiaoqiu last patch instead of this one, cause I would have definitely pulled him in that case.
The Wardance story about Luka has also been excellent.
As for pulls, got both Feixiao and Robin and the FuA team is a beast, and Robin has helped me out elsewhere as well.
Rappa looks cool,
but I will need to see what other upcoming chars they have planned.
I'm pretty curious about what's going to happen next in general.
This Xianzhou mini-arc has been very strong and makes me look forward to the continuation of this storyline. Don't really understand why they put Jiaoqiu last patch instead of this one, cause I would have definitely pulled him in that case.
The Wardance story about Luka has also been excellent.
As for pulls, got both Feixiao and Robin and the FuA team is a beast, and Robin has helped me out elsewhere as well.
Rappa looks cool,
but I will need to see what other upcoming chars they have planned.
I'm pretty curious about what's going to happen next in general.
I just finished this today (well, the story part of it, there's still stuff to do) and the story was surprisingly well done. The journey of self discovery for Luka, the history of Igor and the couple of side stories were very nice. The side stories in particular seemed to touch on some topics that are relevant in contemporary times. The story of the Borisin temple people was especially touching.
If you guys haven't done it yet, I would recommend putting some time into this event. And know that it takes a very long time to complete everything. I've been working on it for 4-5 days and I'm still not done. There are still 3 weeks left to go to get the time limited rewards but just know that it'll be very difficult to complete if you leave it until the very end.
I finshed the Wardance stuff up today, and agree! It was really good. It makes me want to build Luka!
My current pulling plans are saving for Sunday.
Rappa is a total skip for me. Her design is hideous -- a crop jacket with only 1 sleeve, opentoe baggy boots(and of course they are asymmetrical!), and underwear pulled up over the waist of her shorts. Just no. Burn it with fire.
My current pulling plans are saving for Sunday.
Rappa is a total skip for me. Her design is hideous -- a crop jacket with only 1 sleeve, opentoe baggy boots(and of course they are asymmetrical!), and underwear pulled up over the waist of her shorts. Just no. Burn it with fire.
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- #558
Haven't really been playing much since the 2nd half of this patch feels like it's the deadest it's ever been, but todays stream was fun and 2.6 is looking pretty promising.
5* Herta sneak peek in the new SimU DLC intro
I would post the 2.7 drip marketing as well, but it feels wrong to not post in on Sunday
5* Herta sneak peek in the new SimU DLC intro
I would post the 2.7 drip marketing as well, but it feels wrong to not post in on Sunday
Well Sunday has come and gone and I see no trailers posted...
Another broken promise
Another cosmic betrayal
Another shameful display of low moral character
Anyway...
When this new banner started I had about 65 tickets. Going to pity twice to get huohuo wiped out my reserves but she is really good. Wasn't really interested in Lingsha or Rappa nor in the leaks at time of Sunday and 5 star Tingyun. So I thought I'll do a YOLO 20-30 pulls on Topaz's banner hoping to get lucky and get her. Apparently she's still one of the best FUA characters in the game and would be good with Feixiao. Speaking of Feixiao, even my discount team with imaginary March, huohuo and Robin can do a ton of damage. But unfortunately this team cannot currently auto the Feixiao weekly boss fight for me.
Anyway first 10 pull of the banner I lost the 50-50 and got Bronya E2. Not bad but unfortunately she has been power crept by Robin and especially Ruan Mei. Now that I'm on a guarantee I'm suddenly not that keen on Tupac anymore. Not sure who I'd save the tickets for though. 5-star Tingyun could be interesting but she's Nihility and I already have a stacked Nihility team. Getting a guaranteed Acheron on rerun would be nice but I won't have enough to get to E2 which is the real target. Aventurine is also a godlike sustain but I'm happy with Fu Xuan and huohuo. I have Himeko, Herta, Jade, Feixiao and imaginary March reasonably built up for FUA in pure fiction so I don't really need Topaz. What should I do? Just hold tickets for a future character? Also my Apple wallet balance has run low so no monthly pass active which means jade income will slow down.
Also don't understand why they're bombarding us with so many reruns. Is it desperation to earn money or are they seeing a huge influx of new players and catering to them or what is going on?
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Rappa feels like a filler character but they still went all out on the marketing
Am actually surprisingly hyped for 2.6 though. I'm really curious about the Penacony story, all the monkey stuff has me thinking that maybe we'll get some Dr. Primitive/Genius Society stuff
New Simulated Universe DLCs are also always neat and chunky.
Am actually surprisingly hyped for 2.6 though. I'm really curious about the Penacony story, all the monkey stuff has me thinking that maybe we'll get some Dr. Primitive/Genius Society stuff
New Simulated Universe DLCs are also always neat and chunky.
I'm so glad to be going back to Penacony! I'm sure Rappa will be fun in the story, but I will be skipping her no matter what.Rappa feels like a filler character but they still went all out on the marketing
Am actually surprisingly hyped for 2.6 though. I'm really curious about the Penacony story, all the monkey stuff has me thinking that maybe we'll get some Dr. Primitive/Genius Society stuff
New Simulated Universe DLCs are also always neat and chunky.
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It's funny how divisive the update it, primarily the story.
Personally I enjoyed my time with it quite a bit. The humor worked for me and the serious moments hit as well.
I mostly came out of this patch wanting to get Boothill on a rerun
Main event on the other hand was kind of whatever. I like the new SU expansion less than Swarm or Gold & Gears as well, although it probably has the most comprehensible story - I'd pull for Polka Kakamond tbh.
Personally I enjoyed my time with it quite a bit. The humor worked for me and the serious moments hit as well.
I mostly came out of this patch wanting to get Boothill on a rerun
Main event on the other hand was kind of whatever. I like the new SU expansion less than Swarm or Gold & Gears as well, although it probably has the most comprehensible story - I'd pull for Polka Kakamond tbh.
I didn't enjoy the story this update. It had some okay moments(mainly Boothill), but I found myself losing interest halfway through. It wasn't helped by the fact that I was trying to just get through it so I could go back to Veilguard, maybe. The event story was worse though. My god. Just endless lines of pointless, unvoiced, gibberish. It reminded me of that bartending event.
I'm begging them for a skip button in every survey now.
I'm begging them for a skip button in every survey now.
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- #573
3.0 hype~
Very interested in the new Path.
THE Herta is a must pull. Aglea is pretty but also feels kinda like golden Himeko.
Hopefully Memblazer is as good as Hatblazer. Love that they get their own drip-marketing.
2.7 Stream in ~4 hours. I hope we get a sneak peak for 3.0 as well!
An island full of bananas~
So many characters I want! Sunday is priority, but after that I don't know what I'll do! I really want Fugue now, so that I can continue to use my Firefly team while Memblazer is on another team. But I also want The Herta. Aglaea isn't really my jam, so that's one character I don't want at least!
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Same...
Sunday and THE Herta I'll pull for sure. Fugue is tempting for the same reason as you said. Aglea is a skip for now.
And then in 3.0 we'll definitely also get introduced to a whole host of new characters as well
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WTF why was this so hype?!
FLAME-CHASE!? ELYSIA!? KEVIN!? screaming internally
Amphoreus looks amazing :O
Need Castorice.
Wait 2.7? What's that?
Kidding, 2.7 looks alright too. Finally we have a room and cool that it's gonna have main story. Probably gonna end up pulling both Sunday and Fugue.
Nice QoL updates too.
And a Standard selector~ Thinking of grabbing Himeko or Clara Eidolons, or picking Mr. Yang.
FLAME-CHASE!? ELYSIA!? KEVIN!? screaming internally
Amphoreus looks amazing :O
Need Castorice.
Wait 2.7? What's that?
Kidding, 2.7 looks alright too. Finally we have a room and cool that it's gonna have main story. Probably gonna end up pulling both Sunday and Fugue.
Nice QoL updates too.
And a Standard selector~ Thinking of grabbing Himeko or Clara Eidolons, or picking Mr. Yang.
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- #582
Man. 3.x looking incredibly hype.
What do you mean, main story over 8 patches - a full year!?
This has the potential to be a genuine epic. And they said we're still going to get content for the old worlds as well.
Couldn't be happier honestly.
Opening is a banger too
What do you mean, main story over 8 patches - a full year!?
This has the potential to be a genuine epic. And they said we're still going to get content for the old worlds as well.
Couldn't be happier honestly.
Opening is a banger too
I kinda hope these patches are more frequent and they introduce a way to rewatch old story bits like ZZZ, would be really welcome. Even an aging gacha like FGO which lacks many QoL modern games have allow players to re-read previous story chapters.
Kinda nuts only ZZZ has this feature.
I've not played the game since October and I've mostly been out of the loop but this bit of information caught my eye. This seems to address an issue I have with both Genshin and HSR where the main story for a year would start from patch x.0 and conclude around x.3 or x.4 and then you'd have 3-4 patches with what is essentially filler content. This year in Star Rail, the Penacony story ended around 2.4 and then we had 2 patches with the werewolf prison break and then whatever came after that (I didn't play it). The werewolf content wasn't bad but it really had nothing to do with the actual story of the game. In fact, now that I think about it, there really hasn't been much movement on the core plot about what the deal is with the Trailblazer implanted with the stellaron. But IMO, this is an even bigger issue with Genshin where they introduce a whole new mini region half way through the year. I guess it serves to fulfill the demand of their loyal players to have something to do all year but to me it feels extraneous with no link to the archon story and the main plot. I've only done 2 of those regions in the game - Dragonspine and The Chasm - and both were just okay. Because I'm years behind in content, these extra regions become more stuff to trudge through to catch up to the real meat and bones of the story. I skipped Enkanomiya but the desert to the North-West of Sumeru (Hadramaveth?) just broke my resolve to continue. Even if I had finished or skipped that, I have all of Fontaine and then the entirety of Chenyu Vale before I can reach Natlan. I feel like it would be much easier to remain interested if the main story was told throughout the year and all the content expansions happened in the main region/planet, which is what I'm hoping for in 3.0.
When I stopped playing these games I had an idea that I'd take a break and come back for 3.0 in Star Rail. I had assumed that it would be around March but turns out they're shipping in 2 weeks. Now I'm thinking I should start back up on the story I've missed (2 patches). The feeling of being behind really sort of saps your desire to play the game and falling behind when the big 3.0 patch drops might just kill the game for me altogether.
I checked and I have 92 tickets and a guarantee for the next banner so luckily I can pick up anyone I want. But they're doing what, 3-4 banners at the same time? I know only 1 is new and 3 reruns but again, in what world are we ever supposed to be able to keep up at that pace?
It's not the same but Fate's Atlas does exist to give a story recap if you've forgotten what's going on.
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I would say it does in some way. The Xianzhou has a bunch of B-Plots going on that are off-shoots of 1.x - They are now enemies of Nanook because of Phantylia and Nanook is very central to a lot of the story. The Stellarons are apparently connected to him, so by extension the Trailblazer is (and our first Path was Destruction). Jingliu and Luocha are still having plans that are seemingly about killing an Aeon. And there is The Hunt vs. Abundance war. Lots of plot-threads thare are maybe only tangentially related to the "main-main" plot, but are imo still building up to something big, so I don't mind them.
2.6 was kinda filler.
The current 2.7 is actually main story already though. It's fairly short but very good.
For 3.x they said the story would have 2 parts (whatever that will mean) being told from 3.0 to 3.7 with every patch having main story and they want to still revisit the "old" planets via events (and presumably advance stories there).
If they can pull it off this could be amazing.
Genshin definitely suffers from the rigid structure and time-limited nature of events. It's unfortunate. I still enjoy a lot of the game, but it does feel like it could be so much more. Although for your "problem" in particular, there's really nothing stopping you from bee-lining the main story and doing exploration at your leisure afterwards. Iirc only Chasm is a main story progression-blocker.
I think Zenless also does a good job with it's story. It has a more character-driven, lower-stakes, slice-of-live vibe that might feel like stuff is just "filler", but 1.4 was a phenominal "season finale" that basically brought everything together. Will have to be seen how things continue now though, but for now they have my trust after 1.4.
For now though, I'm salivating at the thought of a long-form Epic in 3.x, lol.
So, to me, the stellaron is the core plot/mystery of the game. The other stuff happening with the factions and aeons are sort of world building and while they do contribute to the overall cosmology of the Star Rail universe, they are not directly telling the main story. I kind of understand that it's difficult to write a story for a live service game... you have to expanding the plot in new directions while simultaneously drip feeding the core story. I think the balance is off for Star Rail... I'm not even sure they actually moved the stellaron story forward at all in Penacony. I think live service stories should be written as finite arcs so that they can actually reach a conclusion instead of getting stretched indefinitely. In the case of Genshin, the main story is finding Lumine/Aether and resolving the history of Khaenri'ah. And even though it will be a 6-7 year long arc, it's fair to expect a resolution in or after Snezhnaya. And then, hopefully, if Genshin remains popular, they should start another proper story with the Traveler and maybe Paimon too. That's how I'd prefer things to happen anyway.
For the present discussion, I think sticking with the main story of a planet for a whole year is preferable to these side mission/filler patches which is why I'm glad that's what they're talking about for the next year.
While you're right about this, I didn't want to rush through Genshin just to catch up to the main story. As a general rule, I like to do the main and side quests of an RPG. In the case of Genshin, it is also worthwhile to do other things like exploration, oculus collection, reputation and so on. Mondstadt, I reached 100% region completion with something like 90%+ for Dragonspine. In Liyue I did all the quests and oculus collection but left exploration at around 60% because it was just too much. In Inazuma, I did quests and oculus collection but left exploration and decided to skip Enkanomiya and come back to it at some point in the future. Now in Sumeru I've done the archon quests but not all the world quests, and I'm thinking of skipping the oculus collection and exploration. Even after this I'll have all of Fontaine to go through and I'll probably skip Chenyu Vale to reach Natlan. I'm not a completionist by any stretch but you can see I'm playing each region less and less just to be able to catch up and I'm not really liking that either. I'm not playing the way I'd like to play and also continuously falling behind the relentless pace at which new content appears. So yea, it's a "problem" as you mentioned but I also don't want to just skip over a ton of stuff only to catch up to the story.
This really is one of the best parts of ZZZ. Low intensity, low stakes storytelling without some grand overarching threat in the story. That said, even here, I believe the origin story of our protagonists is in fact the main mystery so far and I hope they're going to address it. Literally everyone has said that 1.4 was a fantastic patch so I'm actually very tempted to come back and see what happened but again, I'm at least 2 patches behind in the story. It's always daunting to think how much time you'll have to play just to catch up with everything.
So 3.0 drops in a few hours. Last couple of days I decided to try and catch up with the main trailblaze story. First day I actually ended up doing the room decoration event with less than 12 hours before it disappeared. Quick and easy way to get a ton of tickets. I liked it.
Then I did the trailblaze missions yesterday and today. Honestly, I thought the Rappa story was trash. The very definition of filler content and the worst quest content they've put into the game in 2 years. Super long, super annoying, super irrelevant. It actually made me question whether it was even worth coming back to the game. Fortunately, the next patch story was really great. Short and I like how they reintroduced Tingyun into the game and gave Sunday his farewell. Touching writing, especially the part where he talks to Robin. The monologue he had with himself right before the last boss was a bit long and in retrospect, I would have preferred his conversation with Robin to be longer instead. Still, a nice way to wrap up Penacony and the whole year and I'm interested to see what this new planet looks like. As in, I really don't know what it looks like at all. I've not watched a single trailer in 2-3 months so I don't even know the aesthetic.
I do know Herta 5-star is coming. From what people have figured out so far (beta/data mining), is she going to be good? Is the game moving away from the super break combat system which, tbh, I never really liked that much even though I have very powerful characters for that kind of team.
Oh also, the lack of voice acting has gotten very annoying. It's been more than half a year now and there doesn't seem to be any resolution in sight. It was one thing when it was just trailers or a patch or two but now even main story quests are shipping incomplete. It's time mihoyo started looking at recasting actors.
Then I did the trailblaze missions yesterday and today. Honestly, I thought the Rappa story was trash. The very definition of filler content and the worst quest content they've put into the game in 2 years. Super long, super annoying, super irrelevant. It actually made me question whether it was even worth coming back to the game. Fortunately, the next patch story was really great. Short and I like how they reintroduced Tingyun into the game and gave Sunday his farewell. Touching writing, especially the part where he talks to Robin. The monologue he had with himself right before the last boss was a bit long and in retrospect, I would have preferred his conversation with Robin to be longer instead. Still, a nice way to wrap up Penacony and the whole year and I'm interested to see what this new planet looks like. As in, I really don't know what it looks like at all. I've not watched a single trailer in 2-3 months so I don't even know the aesthetic.
I do know Herta 5-star is coming. From what people have figured out so far (beta/data mining), is she going to be good? Is the game moving away from the super break combat system which, tbh, I never really liked that much even though I have very powerful characters for that kind of team.
Oh also, the lack of voice acting has gotten very annoying. It's been more than half a year now and there doesn't seem to be any resolution in sight. It was one thing when it was just trailers or a patch or two but now even main story quests are shipping incomplete. It's time mihoyo started looking at recasting actors.
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Have fun going in blind!
I am genuinely contemplating switching languages until the VA situation is sorted out. I do not think they should recast actors at all though.
But also all the new characters do have EN, I consume the marketing in EN and would switch back to EN afterwards anyway.
Alternatively only do side stuff and hope it's back-filled next update or something, but having to dodge spoilers and not being able to discuss and speculate what's gonna happens sounds bad too.
Ugh.
I am genuinely contemplating switching languages until the VA situation is sorted out. I do not think they should recast actors at all though.
But also all the new characters do have EN, I consume the marketing in EN and would switch back to EN afterwards anyway.
Alternatively only do side stuff and hope it's back-filled next update or something, but having to dodge spoilers and not being able to discuss and speculate what's gonna happens sounds bad too.
Ugh.