Community MetaSteam | December 2018 - We got 99 problems, but 76 ain't one

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Ascheroth

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One more game for my upcoming sale wishlist. ;)

There are some pretty cool Chinese RPGs on Steam. Too bad, some are not English friendly. :(
I want Faith of Danschant in English soooo bad.
I really wish a western localization company would start localizing Chinese games on Steam, surely that has to be an unserved niche.
 
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Phawx

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Strolling through my various press type things and I found an interesting looking F2P game with seemingly no mtx


Edit: Oh it's a demo. Neato. Still game looks p cool
 
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Rockin' Ranger

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I brought it up in one of the Epic Threads, if the argument is, that the Epic store doesn't need to be as feature rich as Steam because Steam has 15 years on Epic
I don't understand this stance at all. First of all, the store isn't brand new they've had several years to work on it to add features from launch.

Secondly, they're competing against Valve today and not 15 years so. The market has changed to where things not available then should be standard now. What other industry would people think it was acceptable to launch a product on par with what your competition was offering when they started? If you started a car company and your first vehicle was in par with the Model T would the reaction be, "I don't see any issue, it was decades before Ford had power steering, antilock brakes, seatbelts and airbags."? If I opened a retail store with the intention of going head to head with other big box retailers it'd be moronic for me to explain the lack of online ordering and registers that could only do cash transactions as, "Hey, everyones gotta start somewhere. You think Walmart had those things when they first opened? Not having them is no good reason not to shop at my store."
 

Alexandros

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I don't understand this stance at all. First of all, the store isn't brand new they've had several years to work on it to add features from launch.

Secondly, they're competing against Valve today and not 15 years so. The market has changed to where things not available then should be standard now. What other industry would people think it was acceptable to launch a product on par with what your competition was offering when they started? If you started a car company and your first vehicle was in par with the Model T would the reaction be, "I don't see any issue, it was decades before Ford had power steering, antilock brakes, seatbelts and airbags."? If I opened a retail store with the intention of going head to head with other big box retailers it'd be moronic for me to explain the lack of online ordering and registers that could only do cash transactions as, "Hey, everyones gotta start somewhere. You think Walmart had those things when they first opened? Not having them is no good reason not to shop at my store."
Yeah, it is totally baffling.
 
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Adnor

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I joined just recently because I thought I wasn't going to be posting on forums anymore, but I was, so I had no good reason not to join, especially when I know most people here lol
 
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Derrick01

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Can we say here that gaming journalism is (mostly) an unfunny joke, or will you ban me for saying that lashman ?
I'll do it loud and proud.

Games journalism is a joke and has been for most of this century. Random people who host youtube channels do a better job at breaking down and critiquing games and they're not paid to do so. I regret nothing that I said and I'll keep saying it. If they don't like it well don't get mad, do better :)
 

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I'll do it loud and proud.

Games journalism is a joke and has been for most of this century. Random people who host youtube channels do a better job at breaking down and critiquing games and they're not paid to do so. I regret nothing that I said and I'll keep saying it. If they don't like it well don't get mad, do better :)
It's also not even an attack on "journalism" at large to make that statement, contrary to how some gaming journos make it out to be one.

The coverage of the industry, for better or worse started out with an enthusiast press. And it pretty significantly remains filled with enthusiast press workers. Maybe you get people who majored in film/media/cinema studies, someone who worked in software/hardware design themselves, occasionally some J-School graduates, but it's still filled with a lot of untrained people learning on the fly. It's also pretty unprofitable, which means you have again, a lot of young, often under-qualified people taking underpaid jobs in California or New York that thereby engenders corner cutting to save their own sanity, because they lack the monetary support structure to do their job right and their press outlet lacks the monetary resources to have someone oversee them and make sure the job is done right (e.g. everything about Filip Miucin's situation).

And the unprofitability also leads to a fair number of people to leave the coverage industry and go work, directly or indirectly, for the companies making the games they once covered. A GameSpot editor went from covering games in the '90s to working on Bioshock and Underworld Ascendant. An IGN editor went from a decade at the site, to then working for the PR firm that's contracted by Nintendo. One GameSpot employee went from there to a PR/CM position at a developer, then back to the coverage industry at Giant Bomb. A G-4 producer went from running a now defunct show to working at Respawn and Media Molecule. There are half a dozen other examples I can think of, and it's at least part of the reason why there's a perception of coziness between development studios and the press. A perception that I feel is exaggerated at times, but not unfair when you compare it to the adversarial press that we have in modern news/politics coverage.

Although, in fairness, the American political press was pretty cozy until probably 40 years ago. It took Watergate, Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers for the adversarial press to really come to the forefront after a baptism by fire. Games journalism isn't nearly as old, and hasn't had enough history/important scandals to get the same adversarial clout.

And that's to say nothing of the fact that unfortunately, the medium is just hard to cover. If I want to work in cinema coverage, I can consume the entire AFI Top 100 movies in probably less than 250 hours. That's not a complete education on the entire history of cinema, but it's a useful start. Some games are so long that you literally might only complete 4 or 5 games in that same amount of time. If you're into competitive games, like Dota or LoL or SF/Tekken/etc, you might spend those same 250 hours just learning how that single game works. That's insane, and it puts the bar for becoming well versed in the medium, and well versed in a variety of genres, really, really, really high.

Dunno how you fix the issues, but denying there's structural problems is silly.

Anyways, stupid rant on my part, but whatever. :cool:
 
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Have a new (png) emoticon y'all
YESSS! We need Nancy emotes.
for the billionth time — someone make an “emoji suggestions” thread in the suggestions & feedback forum :p emotes can't be added one by one, they have to be compiled into spritesheets ... otherwise the forum will eventually take AGES to load if it has to load each emote one by one :p

1000th spampost!
congratulations ... you're banned! ;)

I joined just recently because I thought I wasn't going to be posting on forums anymore, but I was, so I had no good reason not to join, especially when I know most people here lol
awwwww, thanks :D

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Thank you very much Lashman.
no problem :)

Can we say here that gaming journalism is (mostly) an unfunny joke, or will you ban me for saying that lashman ?
i couldn't ban you even if i wanted to ... that's not how things work around here, lol

Thanks man, appreciate it!
Thanks my friend 🙂
... and yet you ignored my wishes ... i see how it is

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and speaking of birthday wishes - HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Sampson!!! have a good one! 🎂🎉🎂🎉🎂

 
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lashman

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I don't plan on buying anything during this sale, I still have so many great games I haven't even started yet and the backlog just gets bigger and bigger.... let's see if I can keep myself from buying anything.
Yakkue, pls .... we don't buy games to play them :p let's be serious here ;)
 

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There's not many games I'm looking to buy at the upcoming sales. That doesn't mean that, as usual, I won't even buying a whole bunch of games. :p

Off the top of my head, two games I'll probably buy are:
-11-11 Memories Retold;
-Transference
 
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Frecklestein

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Man I’ve been out of the loop for the past month or so. Any must haves that came out during the last two months that I should look for during the sale?
 
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The Voidu Holiday sale has started.
They have a few great prices (and don't forget, if you use the coupon WINTERMADNESS, it takes an additional 25% off the price).

11-11 Memories Retold is around €13 with the coupon, and they have other deals like shmup Caladrius Blaze for €2,58, and a few Arc System Works fighting games that are currently very cheap.
 
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ramoisdead

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Steam Winter Seal approaches. Hopefully for better sales or some kind of dig towards multiple "storefronts" popping up the woodworks.
 
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