Community MetaSteam | December 2022 - The end of the year is coming, you better hurry with those games!

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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?

I feel like that talking point has slowly faded away, unless I'm not searching hard enough. The detractors were especially loud during the Greenlight days.

Either way, I've always considered that a weak argument against Steam since the store does a good job at hiding crappy games for the most part. And I'm not too big on extreme curation. Who's to judge whether a game is worthy of being on Steam or not? As long as it doesn't promote hate speech or anything of that nature, then go right ahead.
 

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For everyone who is interested in dwarf fortress, I suggest buying it on itch,io:

If you buy it there you get a steam key and a DRM free version as well & the devs get more money than just buying it on steam, It's understandable however if you're on the fence if you aren't 100% sure on it since refunds etc but if you know you want it I do suggest there

I would totally buy from itch.io and get the DRM free version. But the problem for me is the added VAT cost. The total price will be somewhat higher than on Steam :(
 

Dragon1893

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I'm gonna stick with Jedi Fallen Order. The game clicked with me and I'm having a good time despite of the fucking stutter. Fortunately some of the fixes I found online made it less frequent.
But yeah, it's a good game.
 

dex3108

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Today i found out that this game is actually in part being developed in my country (it is being developed in 2 countries Bosnia and Serbia)


So this is second game in short period to get featured on TGA that is from new regional studio, first being Scorn (i don't count CroTeam, they are well known and under Devolver now)
 

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Today i found out that this game is actually in part being developed in my country (it is being developed in 2 countries Bosnia and Serbia)


So this is second game in short period to get featured on TGA that is from new regional studio, first being Scorn (i don't count CroTeam, they are well known and under Devolver now)
It's Returnal's janky, weird, little brother, I quite liked the demo, but Im curious how it will do if Returnal releases first.
 

kio

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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?

I feel like that talking point has slowly faded away, unless I'm not searching hard enough. The detractors were especially loud during the Greenlight days.

Either way, I've always considered that a weak argument against Steam since the store does a good job at hiding crappy games for the most part. And I'm not too big on extreme curation. Who's to judge whether a game is worthy of being on Steam or not? As long as it doesn't promote hate speech or anything of that nature, then go right ahead.
Not really but Steam's algorithm predictive capabilities are a joke. I never buy or play anime, VNs or any of those sex games yet they appear in the front page all the time. Same for multipayer or party games. If there were any semblance of intelligence, the algorithm would interpret me putting all of those games on my ignore list as me not being interested in those types of games, yet here we are.
There's a lot of trash on Steam but there's also a lot of good stuff, it's just the randomess of the algorithm that decides to constantly put whatever it decides in front of you, even when you made abundantly clear you don't want that stuff.
 
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I'm gonna stick with Jedi Fallen Order. The game clicked with me and I'm having a good time despite of the fucking stutter. Fortunately some of the fixes I found online made it less frequent.
But yeah, it's a good game.
Can you link where to get some fixes, about to play it again after it being on sale.
 

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Not really but Steam's algorithm predictive capabilities are a joke. I never buy or play anime, VNs or any of those sex games yet they appear in the front page all the time. Same for multipayer or party games. If there were any semblance of intelligence, the algorithm would interpret me putting all of those games on my ignore list as me not being interested in those types of games, yet here we are.
There's a lot of trash on Steam but there's also a lot of good stuff, it's just the randomess of the algorithm that decides to constantly put whatever it decides in front of you, even when you made abundantly clear you don't want that stuff.
I suggest you mark the store tags for these kinds of games in the account settings so they dont show up anymore.

 
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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?
Rarely. Only a bunch of EGS defenders using this as an argument to prefer Steam over EGS. Which is funny, since Epic actually uses Steam's top sellers list to determine which games are allowed on EGS according to the leaked case files.

Anyway, I'm using Steam almost daily and I've never seen shovelware or anime porn on my store page. I'm curious if people complaining about trash games actually saw this on Steam, or are only quoting Kotaku's and Polygon's clickbait nonsense.
 

Derrick01

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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?
No and I think that's because all of the other stores are just as bad now but have none or almost none of the tools steam has to mitigate the crap from being seen. Sony's had trophy farming games for a few years now on top of actual (very bad) games, MS you can seemingly just put whatever you want on their store going by that terrible god of war ripoff that was spotted a few weeks ago and nintendo lets just about everything on there too nowadays including borderline hentai at times lol. And EGS lets NFT shit pollute their store.

The bad faith people shut up real quick when the problem went to everything else.
 

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I think a lot of the people complaining the loudest also covered shovelware specifically and then got their store pages flooded with more shovelware because the Steam algorithm was probably thinking "oh this person must love this trash"
 

yuraya

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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?

I feel like that talking point has slowly faded away, unless I'm not searching hard enough. The detractors were especially loud during the Greenlight days.

Either way, I've always considered that a weak argument against Steam since the store does a good job at hiding crappy games for the most part. And I'm not too big on extreme curation. Who's to judge whether a game is worthy of being on Steam or not? As long as it doesn't promote hate speech or anything of that nature, then go right ahead.
I think as indie games became more n more popular over the past 7 or so years people backed down from that rhetoric.

People will always be more tolerant of a giant sea of bad games if a lot of gems come out of it. And I think most realized so many good games wouldn't exist if Valve didn't open the floodgates. Valve was always right in doing it. Let gamers decide what is good and what is not. Give them tools like reviews, early access and refunds to make it all work.
 

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Rarely. Only a bunch of EGS defenders using this as an argument to prefer Steam over EGS. Which is funny, since Epic actually uses Steam's top sellers list to determine which games are allowed on EGS according to the leaked case files.

Anyway, I'm using Steam almost daily and I've never seen shovelware or anime porn on my store page. I'm curious if people complaining about trash games actually saw this on Steam, or are only quoting Kotaku's and Polygon's clickbait nonsense.
it really depends on what you're playing tbh.
In my case I do play all ages VN and eroge and a fair number of those are marked as "casual" or "sexual content". Due to the fact that a ton of shovelware is marked as "casual" or with the "sexual content" tag every time I play an all ages VN or an eroge my steam suggestions and discovery queue are clogged by shovelware, low-quality puzzle games or those weird 3D sex games because of those tags.

Discovery is completely broken and unusable for me, so I just don't use it and quickly put any game in ignore, I don't really need it anyway since I don't use Steam algorithm to find games so eh it's not too big of an issue, at least for me.
After I start aggressively ignoring those games at some point the algorithm goes back to suggesting other stuff, untill I play a VN again at least.

That said I wish I could filter out/disable tags added by the community from tags added by the dev/pub, I think a good chunk of issues would be fixed in my case with the removal of community generated tags
 

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Do you guys ever hear people complaining about Steam's "quality control" anymore?

I feel like that talking point has slowly faded away, unless I'm not searching hard enough. The detractors were especially loud during the Greenlight days.

Either way, I've always considered that a weak argument against Steam since the store does a good job at hiding crappy games for the most part. And I'm not too big on extreme curation. Who's to judge whether a game is worthy of being on Steam or not? As long as it doesn't promote hate speech or anything of that nature, then go right ahead.
No because Steam doesn't recommend you the low quality shit people complain about 99% of the time. Steam's algorithm is based on reviews and sales. Steam isnt gonna recommend you low quality asset flips because nobody's buying them.
 

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Discovery is completely broken and unusable for me, so I just don't use it and quickly put any game in ignore, I don't really need it anyway since I don't use Steam algorithm to find games so eh it's not too big of an issue, at least for me.
A lot of people say this, but I do in fact use the Steam tools to find a lot of games that I really wouldn't have found otherwise.

I've actually had the following conversation (shortened but almost exactly) several times on the games subreddit (which does have some civil discourse):

Someone: Too bad there aren't many local co-op games (variation: too bad there aren't many on PC).
Me: There are an absolute ton of amazing local coop games releasing all the time on PC.
Someone: Can you list some examples?
Me: Sure, here you go: [some examples, frequently with <100 steam reviews and absolutely 0 mention in any games media]
Someone: Wow, these look great, how did you even find them?
Me: Steam discovery tools.

That said, by far the most valuable to me is the interactive recommender, combined with tag inclusion filtering. The discovery queue is comparatively useless. However, Steam reviews are also amazing for this, even if there is just a handful of them that's still extremely valuable for games where you really can't find impressions anywhere else.
 

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It looks oversharpened, characters have choppy animations and it drops frames hard when it gets busy. I also got an impression that it would be something akin to GTA from the trailer but this looks like Payday with 80s vibes.
 
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ZKenir

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A lot of people say this, but I do in fact use the Steam tools to find a lot of games that I really wouldn't have found otherwise.

I've actually had the following conversation (shortened but almost exactly) several times on the games subreddit (which does have some civil discourse):

Someone: Too bad there aren't many local co-op games (variation: too bad there aren't many on PC).
Me: There are an absolute ton of amazing local coop games releasing all the time on PC.
Someone: Can you list some examples?
Me: Sure, here you go: [some examples, frequently with <100 steam reviews and absolutely 0 mention in any games media]
Someone: Wow, these look great, how did you even find them?
Me: Steam discovery tools.

That said, by far the most valuable to me is the interactive recommender, combined with tag inclusion filtering. The discovery queue is comparatively useless. However, Steam reviews are also amazing for this, even if there is just a handful of them that's still extremely valuable for games where you really can't find impressions anywhere else.
Read carefully what I have written please none of that is in contrast with what I said.
I didn't say the tool is not good to discover games, I said in my case it's completely broken because it's doing what's it's supposed to do and tags are mucking it up, specifically it's user generated tags, thus it's completely unusable for me.
Hence my problem are tags, and I'd like to switch off user generated tags.

That said I don't need steam tools to discover games I like, so luckily it's not affecting me much, I use a combination of gematsu and twitter for smaller pubs to keep track of games.
This is 100% confirmed by the interactive recommender which in my case it's filled to the brim with wishlisted games.
 
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Whoo, finished Yakuza 4 in a solid week after finally getting into the groove after playing it on and off over months :grimacing-face:
Quite enjoyed my time with it, but by god I fucking hate the "beats up villain, walks away, villain pulls out gun (or grabs it from the floor), shoots someone" trope. Holy shit.
Feels like it happens in every single game and it happened THREE god damn times in this one. Two times even with the same villain in the same freaking cutscene. It honestly makes Kiryu and company look like incredibly morons and it makes it impossible to feel sad when someone kicks the bucket because of it. Instead I just want to punch the protagonists in the face.
 
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Whoo, finished Yakuza 4 in a solid week after finally getting into the groove after playing it on and off over months :grimacing-face:
Quite enjoyed my time with it, but by god I fucking hate the "beats up villain, walks away, villain pulls out gun (or grabs it from the floor), shoots someone" trope. Holy shit.
Feels like it happens in every single game and it happened THREE god damn times in this one. Two times even with the same villain in the same freaking cutscene. It honestly makes Kiryu and company look like incredibly morons and it makes it impossible to feel sad when someone kicks the bucket because of it. Instead I just want to punch the protagonists in the face.
Haha yeah! I hated that too, à gunshot from of the camera was so overused in the yakuza games. thankfully, they toned it down.
 
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Still feeling the best thing from TGA is Returnal PC. I thanksfully never finished it on PS5 so I can invest time with it on Steam. The game is so damn good.
 
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I looked through the Steam page for the award show yesterday, and I have to say for a mainstream thing the announced game list has a larger number of games that actually look interesting to me than I expected.

  • The Lords of the Fallen has an extremely stupid naming scheme, but looks... great? And with co-op / versus this time around? Quite hyped for this, unexpectedly so.
  • Jedi Survivor - I just started playing the first game, and while it's not fantastic and wouldn't make my top list, it's pretty good, so I guess a sequel is also interesting (eventually, at an appropriate price).
  • Earthblade looks amazing, though it's still far out. I'm really confident this will be great.
  • Remnant 2 is a bit like Jedi Survivor - I liked the first game well enough and so I'm pretty happy to see a sequel.
  • After Us looks awesome aesthetically, so I'm intrigued.
  • Returnal I had absolutely never looked at before, I just knew of it due to the talk here. I had no idea that it is third person coop Touhou (which I surmise from the video and store page), which actually sounds great.
  • Hades 2 is another one of the "nice to have" sequels. Hades was the first Supergiant game that I actually liked a lot. I'm not sure it needed a sequel, but it's understandable that they are doing one given the massive success of the first game.

Read carefully what I have written please none of that is in contrast with what I said.
I didn't try to contrast with your post, I just used the "I don't really need it anyway since I don't use Steam algorithm to find games" as a prompt to write about my experience with the recommendation tools, since a lot of people say they have no use for them but I had a different experience (in the specific instance of looking for niche local coop games, of course).
 

ZKenir

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I didn't try to contrast with your post, I just used the "I don't really need it anyway since I don't use Steam algorithm to find games" as a prompt to write about my experience with the recommendation tools, since a lot of people say they have no use for them but I had a different experience (in the specific instance of looking for niche local coop games, of course).
Oh I see, sorry I kinda misunderstood!
 

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  • The Lords of the Fallen has an extremely stupid naming scheme, but looks... great? And with co-op / versus this time around? Quite hyped for this, unexpectedly so.
The name of this game makes no sense to me. Like, this game looks actually good. For what reason do you wanna tie yourself to the original Lords of the Fallen, which was a bland and boring game I got for 60c and still think it wasn't worth it? It's a different dev team too! This IP has 0 value. Instead of trying to "revive" it by forcing a potentially good game to have a stupid name, come up with something new and cool instead.
 
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