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That turtle with poop on its back is mean. What'd that poor turtle ever do to you people?! Why do you hate turtles and their shelled ilk?!
Look at these cute little guys
How could you put poop on them?!
But Minos is just dressed up like a poop! It's a costume!
:minos_dealwith:

So happy these were added btw lashman :coffee-blob:
 
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Li Kao

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Do we have a "PC upgrade" thread ? Don't want to make an unnecessary and annoying one.
Might as well do it here to make sure I don't.

So it finally sinked in that my 2500K is long past its prime, which came as a shock since the thing was basically unkillable for years.
So I must change CPU. But that mean changing Mobo. And memory. Life is fun like that.
After discussing the move on Discord I came to this configuration, and as a relative tech noob, I would welcome every input on it.

My Custom Build - LiKao's Saved Part List - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Define R6 Black ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker France
 
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So happy these were added btw @lashman :coffee-blob:
i know, right? :D

Do we have a "PC upgrade" thread ? Don't want to make an unnecessary and annoying one.
Might as well do it here to make sure I don't.

So it finally sinked in that my 2500K is long past its prime, which came as a shock since the thing was basically unkillable for years.
So I must change CPU. But that mean changing Mobo. And memory. Life is fun like that.
After discussing the move on Discord I came to this configuration, and as a relative tech noob, I would welcome every input on it.

My Custom Build - LiKao's Saved Part List - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core, Define R6 Black ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker France
seems very reasonable to me :)
 

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Y'all know what I'm all about: :minos_sheriff:

So Kingdom Hearts 3 sold around 600,000 copies on PS4 in Japan

RE2 REmake shipped a combined total of 3 million copies worldwide across its platforms.
Look at all that moola S-E and Disney are leaving on the table. Get that KH Collection on Steam asap S-E (or maybe even Epic :V)
 
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Y'all know what I'm all about: :minos_sheriff:

So Kingdom Hearts 3 sold around 600,000 copies on PS4 in Japan

RE2 REmake shipped a combined total of 3 million copies worldwide across its platforms.
Look at all that moola S-E and Disney are leaving on the table. Get that KH Collection on Steam asap S-E (or maybe even Epic :V)
oh, they will ... a year from now ... with zero marketing ... it'll just appear one day on steam

(also the port will be absolute shit)
 

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oh, they will ... a year from now ... with zero marketing ... it'll just appear one day on steam

(also the port will be absolute shit)
I wanna say that's being unfair, but KH is a big money maker for Disney so I'd assume they WANT to have it promoted so it can sell well. S-E ports are hit or miss.
 
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zkylon

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What triggers the crowd to behave with such anger and aggression? Often outnumbered, what does a police officer feel like during the conflict?
what triggers anger and aggression in protests? oh i don't know?? maybe it's the tear gas and (more often than not live) bullets ???

these "both sides" people are the worst, fuck this piece of shit exploitative dev

he might as well put a charlotsville simulator where you play as a nazi running over people to contemplate how we're all right and wrong

fuck you, do the world a favor and jump off a cliff
 
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what triggers anger and aggression in protests? oh i don't know?? maybe it's the tear gas and bullets ???
ummm, zky ... i don't think you play as the cops in that game ....

or at least that wasn't the case the last time i played it
 

zkylon

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ummm, zky ... i don't think you play as the cops in that game ....

or at least that wasn't the case the last time i played it


that's on the storepage and this narrative of protest being police vs rioters as if it's an active battle rather than peaceful protests turned into mad sprints for cover as you get shot by the police because police like to infiltrate protests and trash something to justify shooting you. protesters are literally called rioters in this game, that's such a frustrating both sides way of presenting things, grr

this kind of narrative is super dangerous and irresponsible

in argieland's case it's as rionaa says, presenting pro abortion protesters as rioters that throw molotov cocktails and bombs?

leonard menchiari (thanks for putting your real name you piece of shit) go fuck yourself

way to go spending 4 years making a shitty game and not learning anything on the sensitive topic you think you're being so insightful about
 
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Li Kao

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that's on the storepage and this narrative of protest being police vs rioters as if it's an active battle rather than peaceful protests turned into mad sprints for cover as you get shot by the police because police like to infiltrate protests and trash something to justify shooting you. protesters are literally called rioters in this game, that's such a frustrating both sides way of presenting things, grr

this kind of narrative is super dangerous and irresponsible

in argieland's case it's as rionaa says, presenting pro abortion protesters as rioters that throw molotov cocktails and bombs?

leonard menchiari (thanks for putting your real name you piece of shit) go fuck yourself
Wonder if they have "blowing off hands with non-lethal grenades" as an action. Maybe blowing heads off is DLC.
 
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zkylon

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just so we're clear on how rotten and frankly idiotic this dev is, his game literally has a mode where instead of idk yellow vests vs police you play as orks vs knights

cos you know, those are interchangeable and it's funny if you're a shit person

I think I've finally found a more cynical and mercenary dev than rockstar

at least the sprite work on the bolsonaro game didn't look this trash
 
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Li Kao

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I don't know I want to be positive and think turning protests into a video game is not easy, that so many things can go wrong without you having ill intents...
...
But at the same time that's why you probably shouldn't do it.
 
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zkylon

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try
I don't know I want to be positive and think turning protests into a video game is not easy, that so many things can go wrong without you having ill intents...
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But at the same time that's why you probably shouldn't do it.
try 1978 revolution black friday (I think that was the name?) for a fairly accurate depiction of protests

even the protests that go violent (often justifiable) aren't balanced competitive games and designing your game in that way makes you a ignorant asshole

either make a serious game or a fun game, you can't do both without misrepresenting the issues you're tackling
 
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I don't know I want to be positive and think turning protests into a video game is not easy, that so many things can go wrong without you having ill intents...
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But at the same time that's why you probably shouldn't do it.
yeah ... i'd say not everything has to be a video game ... ESPECIALLY stuff like current events ... can't get more current than Yellow Vests ...

KH3 is pretty good, wish they'd release em all on PC though
we all do :(
 

zkylon

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I think you can make a game out of everything, but you're responsible for the politics of the game you're making

you can make a game about beating protesters and have a strong critical message (think of say they movie jin roh), but you need to be mindful of what you're designing

this feels like a game born out of a I don't want to be political mindset which is a fake shield that doesn't cover that the dev is a turd
 
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yeah ... i'd say not everything has to be a video game ... ESPECIALLY stuff like current events ... can't get more current than Yellow Vests ...
well from what i understood the main campaigns are basically made of imaginary riots ... so i dont really have single issue with that
and these new ones are challeneges made by different team
Included in the release will be six new levels (with a Sci-Fi level to follow later). The six new challenges have been put together by the team at IVP using the game’s level editor. The locations have been taken from recent clashes as well as showing the versatility of the editor to completely change the look and feel of the game with the Fantasy and forthcoming Sci-Fi levels.
but have no clue who team at IVP is

his game literally has a mode where instead of idk yellow vests vs police you play as orks vs knights
maybe you look a bit too much into it .... its said even in the post that the "real events" ones are made by different team using edito as well as the fantasy one is made by community and main game is generic protester vs generic force
so its not "mode with orks instead of yellow vests" but people changing generic protestors/force for their own "levels"
 
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zkylon

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I disagree because imaginary or not, by the nature of the game, it's contextualizing protest as a battle between forces when in the real world it's very rare it breaks into conflict, let alone a balanced and gamifiable one

by presenting the game like this he and his team are making a political
statement, and a very shitty one at that

nobody forced this dev to make a game about protests
 
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nobody forced this dev to make a game about protests
well his experience in some proces forced him to according to storepage
Leonard Menchiari, experienced rioting first-hand at the NoTAV protests in Italy. He created the game to tell the stories and express the feelings experienced during these clashes.
as for gamifiing it ... i need to see some actuall proper gameplay first to see how its done
 
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I disagree because imaginary or not, by the nature of the game, it's contextualizing protest as a battle between forces when in the real world it's very rare it breaks into conflict, let alone a balanced and gamifiable one

by presenting the game like this he and his team are making a political
statement, and a very shitty one at that

nobody forced this dev to make a game about protests
It sounds like he specifically created it to share their experience with rioting and (maybe) process it in their own way, or at least that was the catalyst. I think the main difference between this and other games which "gamify" real life things (so, CoD, Battlefield, Papers Please, Democracy, Civ, literally hundreds more) is how personal it is to you, because to me it has the same potential and approach as many of those other games and some of them deal with (to me) heavier, much more political issues.

I'm not saying the game is for sure innocent, no political game ever completely avoids being one sided and sensitively covers all the information and emotional weight of their topic, but I'm saying as someone who has been in a few protests (not riots, though) that this game doesn't strike me as egregious compared to any other of those games, just going off the store page.

Honestly I find the CoD games more offensive politically, and I still occasionally play those. They are absurdly heavy handed and don't deal with nuance in the slightest, and belittle a lot of serious problems with our world and struggles.
 
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Y'all know what I'm all about: :minos_sheriff:

So Kingdom Hearts 3 sold around 600,000 copies on PS4 in Japan

RE2 REmake shipped a combined total of 3 million copies worldwide across its platforms.
Look at all that moola S-E and Disney are leaving on the table. Get that KH Collection on Steam asap S-E (or maybe even Epic :V)
The KH Remastered Collections aren't on Xbox either, so I don't think it's a matter of foolishly leaving money on the table. It must be some kind of rights/licensing issue. I'd bet more than anything it has to do with music.
 
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zkylon

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well his experience in some proces forced him to according to storepage

as for gamifiing it ... i need to see some actuall proper gameplay first to see how its done
I don't agree with personal experience forcing him but if he puts it out there then it's not exempt from critical analysis, specially given its very political subject matter

I'm obviously drawing from marketing content but I'm not gonna spend money on a game like this just to criticize it. they're marketing it as such so that's what I'm basing my criticism on

having a riot scenario editor is controversial on its own right

both sides narratives are the absolute worst and I have nothing but contempt for people that use the medium of games which I believe to be capable of saying so many wonderful our insightful things to perpetuate these toxic narratives that demonize the people actually fighting for change and good
 

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A new classic shmup was just released on Steam:


It may seem a bit on the expensive side, but it apparently includes HD remakes of two other games (Psyvariar Medium Unit and Psyvariar Revision) with additional features, so it's a 3 in 1 package.

I confess I'm unfamiliar with the series, but I'm a sucker for the genre, so I bought it. :giggle:
 

zkylon

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It sounds like he specifically created it to share their experience with rioting and (maybe) process it in their own way, or at least that was the catalyst. I think the main difference between this and other games which "gamify" real life things (so, CoD, Battlefield, Papers Please, Democracy, Civ, literally hundreds more) is how personal it is to you, because to me it has the same potential and approach as many of those other games and some of them deal with (to me) heavier, much more political issues.

I'm not saying the game is for sure innocent, no political game ever completely avoids being one sided and sensitively covers all the information and emotional weight of their topic, but I'm saying as someone who has been in a few protests (not riots, though) that this game doesn't strike me as egregious compared to any other of those games, just going off the store page.

Honestly I find the CoD games more offensive politically, and I still occasionally play those. They are absurdly heavy handed and don't deal with nuance in the slightest, and belittle a lot of serious problems with our world and struggles.
hard to argue which game is worse, I think a game like blops1 in which you could kill a real living person (fidel castro was alive at the time) is pretty rotten as well

I think it's important to hold all these games accountable for the horrible bullshit they're saying, doesn't really matter which game sucks the most
 
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Teggy

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Holy cow, Perseus Mandate is ugly as :minos_poop:, i think i will drop it and switch to Condemned or FEAR 2..


At least Extraction Point had a LOT of explosive barrels and some reflective mirrors
Perseus Mandate is not great and to add insult to injury I hit a bug that prevented me from finishing it.
 

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I made EpicSpy. Turns out from scanning all their publicly available information, no one bought anything. Due to this, launch has been postponed.

And on more serious note, am I only one who would had some interest in Epic Store funded games, but now absolutely does not want to support it at all?

Steam store page was just updated 2019 -> 2020. So one year exclusive I guess.
 
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