Community MetaSteam | January 2022 - With a new year comes great responsibility, BOY!

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toxicitizen

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Well well well

Good and bad news

Good news is that I have the new computer completely assembled
bad news is that looks like my current tower creates static charge that makes the computer not work properly so I must get a new tower, hopefully everything will be ready bu next week :_(
Wait, what? I'm curious how that's even possible. What case do you have?
 
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Paul

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Can someone tell Gabe to hide all those game shader cache updates? I am getting like 5 updates every time I launch steam and it is annoying AF. I want to only see real updates. Happens since the new library UI.
 
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TioChuck

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Just completed the race on Mafia DE after about 50 tries, probably one of the worst experience I had playing video games, fucking Enduro on the 2600 was better than that, JFC.
 
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I watched the trailer for that Showa American Story game. What an insane and amazing premise to waste on a fucking lame zombie game.

Amazing creative backdrop for the most boring possible thing. Here's to hoping that it actually does something interesting with it instead.
 
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Just completed the race on Mafia DE after about 50 tries, probably one of the worst experience I had playing video games, fucking Enduro on the 2600 was better than that, JFC.
Did you play on the 'classic' setting?
 
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Wait, what? I'm curious how that's even possible. What case do you have?
corsair 400c, 5yo right now.

even unplugged the other day it shocked me when I touched it, was really weird.

Case was not bad but something must have happened to create this problem.
 
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Mivey

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The steam forums are usually a shit show in my experience
Yeah, more often than not. So many terrible, bad faith threads, really vile stuff most of the time. There's also great and useful stuff in there too, if you need solution for a rare bug or something. But it's sad that it's lacking decent moderation. Valve should really invest a ton of money in hiring community managers around the world, training them and working to maintain a basic civil tone across all forums of all games. They have enough billions to afford this.
 

thekeats1999

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I think this year I will try to engage more with the steam community, meaning inside of steam. Like write more reviews, check out the forums more and stuff like that.
After Aaron D. comments about how he tries to leave reviews for smaller Indie games I have been thinking about doing the same myself. However I tend to be a bit poor in my writing skills, but would prefer not to leave those stupid one line reviews that tend to flood steam.
 

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After Aaron D. comments about how he tries to leave reviews for smaller Indie games I have been thinking about doing the same myself. However I tend to be a bit poor in my writing skills, but would prefer not to leave those stupid one line reviews that tend to flood steam.
Haha my plan is to do those one line reviews! Of course just to get warm in the clothes. Because my writing skills are crap so need the practise.
 

Kyougar

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After Aaron D. comments about how he tries to leave reviews for smaller Indie games I have been thinking about doing the same myself. However I tend to be a bit poor in my writing skills, but would prefer not to leave those stupid one line reviews that tend to flood steam.
If it's something worth saying, write it, even if it is just a one-liner.
 

d00d3n

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Has Microsoft started to make new PC games inaccessible on Steam again? I just noticed that "The Gunk" is only available through the Xbox app on PC.
 

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Why I was so hyped for GOG galaxy thingie was because it seemed to be what I wanted but in the end was unusable.
GOG Galaxy 2.0 is such a massive disappointment. They promised the earth and delivered manure. I don’t think a single advertised new feature of the client or service works as it should, and the basic GOG functions from the 1.0 client have been abstracted behind a bunch of barely-working garbage. The overall end product is actively worse.

For my backlog tracking I just use a list app (have used MS To-Do, currently using Apple’s Reminders app). It does what I need it to, but I don’t care about the social side so that’s fine for me.

For GOG’s other function, cross-store launching, Playnite is sick. I’m actually considering doing a Meta thread about all the comfy couch PC learning I’ve had to do to get an awesome 10ft UI going.

NSFL

When you need to debug your computer equipment
This has legitimately upset me on so many levels.
 

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When you need to debug your computer equipment
I mean, it's technically correct, the term bug was born because in one of the first computer there was a dead moth inside:
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.[11]
 

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Playing Bound By Flame right now, and I am always sucked right into these Spiders games. They are like the Falcom of classic Bioware style RPGs, always a very similar formula. Despite the games having tons of obvious flaws, like the need for backtracking, the cheap mobs that take up so much time to fight, there's something about them keep pulling me back. Played Mars War Logs and Technomancer last year and it was the same experience then.
 

Li Kao

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Playing Bound By Flame right now, and I am always sucked right into these Spiders games. They are like the Falcom of classic Bioware style RPGs, always a very similar formula. Despite the games having tons of obvious flaws, like the need for backtracking, the cheap mobs that take up so much time to fight, there's something about them keep pulling me back. Played Mars War Logs and Technomancer last year and it was the same experience then.
Color me intrigued !

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Unrelated but are there good zines / books about video games published these days ?
I know of the HG101 / Untold History ones, but is that all ? Or something like the CRPG / JRPG books, but DIGITAL.
 
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eonden

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GOG Galaxy 2.0 is such a massive disappointment. They promised the earth and delivered manure. I don’t think a single advertised new feature of the client or service works as it should, and the basic GOG functions from the 1.0 client have been abstracted behind a bunch of barely-working garbage. The overall end product is actively worse.

For my backlog tracking I just use a list app (have used MS To-Do, currently using Apple’s Reminders app). It does what I need it to, but I don’t care about the social side so that’s fine for me.

For GOG’s other function, cross-store launching, Playnite is sick. I’m actually considering doing a Meta thread about all the comfy couch PC learning I’ve had to do to get an awesome 10ft UI going.


This has legitimately upset me on so many levels.
Promising perfect work between different launchers was always going to be a shitshow because of two simple things:
-You do not have a partnership and you need to rely on public APIs. Using public APIs means that the interaction will always be a pain in the ass and buggy as fuck because your code is working on loopholes the APIs leave and not using them as intended, so a desync for whatever reason will fuck things up (or a slight change of how the API works but not its end results can fuck you up too).
-You have a partnership and can have more in dept h comunication with the publisher. Now here you rely on the partnership being in good faith and actively partnering with you when they make major changes to their service (and take you into account). Which in most cases they will kidna forget, so your partnership application will slightly get worse.

Now, once you combine that with the rest of the GOG (which you fully control) you end up having a mess of different levels of interactions that do not give a cohesive feeling, which was the full idea of Galaxy 2.0.
 
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EdwardTivrusky

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Galaxy 2.0 works fine for me but then my needs are simple and unorganised compared to many others.
I tend not to link accounts or use any unified store features. I only have Origin games that were auto-added to my Steam Library and only GOG games in Galaxy. I have a seperate folder for my Indie/DRM free games so i poke about in there when i fancy something different. I have a frontend for Dosbox that i rarely use but i have found a handy frontend for Doom and mods which i like.

I don't tend to keep spreadsheets or track things unlike many people which i suppose fits with my random and easily distracted nature.
 
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Yup, GOG Galaxy 2 never fully worked for me, so I just stopped using it. Haven't actually bought someting from GOG or used Galaxy since the day I bought those Metal Gear games.
Personnally, if it's to buy an old unsupported game I usually like to get it from GOG (although I got burned in the case of Quake where they updated the Steam version with a bunch of cool features last year but not the GOG one). But yeah, for newer games it's not the best platform...
 

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Personnally, if it's to buy an old unsupported game I usually like to get it from GOG (although I got burned in the case of Quake where they updated the Steam version with a bunch of cool features last year but not the GOG one). But yeah, for newer games it's not the best platform...
I also don't find it a reliable platform to use. Their money problems makes future support uncertain, many big indies and aas and aaas not releasing there, games not getting patches or it takes long time to get patches (due to extremely low sales).

I will give them respect for the DRM stuff (despite conflicts like Hitman), but otherwise I don't really care for GOG. I've used Steam for over 11 years and I can still play the games I boughty 11 and 10 years ago.
 
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EdwardTivrusky

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I buy older, classic games on GOG all the time. I don't need or want them linked to Steam and i appreciate the work they do to chase these games down and get things working via Dosbox or whatever.
Newer games though, sure i stick to Steam though i am buying from GOG, Itch or the dev/publisher a lot more often for smaller indie games and most of my VNs.
 

toxicitizen

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corsair 400c, 5yo right now.

even unplugged the other day it shocked me when I touched it, was really weird.

Case was not bad but something must have happened to create this problem.
That's really weird, yeah. I don't even understand how that could just happen. Do you have it, like, down on a floor covered with shaggy carpet or something? lol
 
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Has Microsoft started to make new PC games inaccessible on Steam again? I just noticed that "The Gunk" is only available through the Xbox app on PC.
Currently The Gunk and Echo Generation . aee xbox exosystem exclusive for now.. TheTouryst went rrough it aswell but its now on steam , and echo generation has streampage already
I will give them respect for the DRM stuff (despite conflicts like Hitman), but otherwise I don't really care for GOG. I've used Steam for over 11 years and I can still play the games I boughty 11 and 10 years ago.
tbh in the long term i would rather see GoG survive than EGS as gog at least have some value in the NoDRM and old game sense
 

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So we have looked in to this. It's far more complex than first suspected -- EAC has two versions. Non-EOS and EOS (Epic Online Services). Most games historically use Non-EOS EAC. It's the one Vermintide 2 uses as well. Epic only added Proton support for the EOS version of EAC. Therefor in order to implement proton support for Vermintide 2, a huge amount of reworking of the EAC implementation would be required, which may also require all players to authenticate with Epic Online Services as well -- perhaps even logging in to the Epic environment (to be confirmed, however).

So the "just a few clicks" statement made in the original announcement wasn't entirely accurate, and would only apply to titles using the EOS version of EAC, which simply hasn't been many games aside from either pretty new ones, and likely predominantly Epic exclusive titles.

We are still looking at what is or isn't going to be possible, but it's not as easy as it was made out to be -- far from it in fact.

There may be other solutions or workarounds, but ripping out the old EAC and rewriting everything to implement "NuEAC" and potentially asking our entire playerbase to connect through and sign through EOS for an honestly tiny market share that was (and would remain) unsupported from the get go might be a deal breaker.

Time will tell.
Sneaky.
 

toxicitizen

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it was literally on a wooden table :|
it has been the weirdest thing of all my life in terms of computers.
Damn, hopefully it really is a problem with the case somehow and not your house then. Otherwise replacing it might not help...
 
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Gintaro

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Sneaky.
Welp not really surprising since Epic is pushing EOS in any way they could.

 

Aaron D.

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If it's something worth saying, write it, even if it is just a one-liner.
If I bother writing a steam review it's always a killer one liner.
Worthy of note, there's plenty of Steam indies I've taken a chance on based on one-liner reviews alone (in the absence of more in depth coverage). Titles I would have passed on completely otherwise for lack of any user feedback at all.

While some of my reviews do border on silly levels of verbose, simpler reviews do matter, even on a one-liner level.
 

Dragon1893

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Almost done with Tales of Arise. Fifth Tales game I've played and definitely my favorite.

I can't keep up with all these TV shows. Witcher, Hawkeye, Boba Fett... They're all so good. Hawkeye is really surprising me, it's so entertaining.
 

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Sneaky.
Expected, man fuck epic games, they are trying everything to ruin pc gaming...
 

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im trying to git gud at Dead Cells and having no luck :crying-face:
Same. I keep getting hit in stupid ways. Those guys in the clock tower that phase in out of nowhere really did a number on me.
But I did manage to reach the final boss! Then proceeded to promptly get wrecked. Ouchie.
 
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