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sauce

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If you are lucky, never. It's shit.
Nah I'm definitely going to, I'm going to play all of the FF games I own.

It's a turn based strategy game with a deckbuilding aspect. Except you use dices instead of cards.
Essentially you build a deck out of dices and each dice has a make-up of fields where the eyes usually are, like an attack field or a move field.
Some also have a monster side.
You throw dices and add the tokens you get to your token pool. So whenever a dice lands on "attack" you get an attack move added to your pool etc.

When a dice lands on a monster field, the dice "opens" into a grid of 6 fields like these which you can then place on the actual board.
The board starts out empty itself and has both players on it at opposite ends. Your goal is obviously to kill that opposing player. So when you throw a monster dice, you get to place such a 6 grid field and slowly build a way towards your opponent and he does the same.



Whenever you spawn such a field via monster side, you also get said monster on one of the 6 fields. That monster you can then move across the field via move tokens and use to attack other monsters via attack tokens.

Each monster also has unique properties in the form of Attack-power, defense-power and occasionally also special effects that activate under specific circumstances.

There's also other dices that instead of a monster side have other features like the ability to place a warp hole and such, but that'd go too much into details.
Ahh okay, the pooling aspect is what confused me. That's definitely a pretty cool concept, I'm guessing the end goal is to get your monsters to attack face?
 

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Made a Bitsummit thread because I didn't realize there already was one on the other forum, oh well
 

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knowing them - they'll probably port the mobile version ... except they'd first update the existing one to make it as shitty as humanly possible (just like they did with Chrono Trigger :p)

it's squeenix after all

In this case it's the mobile version the one i want.
 
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My favorite FF is 6, followed by Tactics and 12. Back in the PSX days 7 and 9 were a big deal to me, but a few months ago I played through them both and they haven't really aged well. It was fun but it wasn't the same. Never played 13. FFX I never finished and didn't really like it. 8 just didn't grab me on PSX and I've never given it a second chance.

I would love an Octopath Traveler style FFVI (and/or Chrono) remake.
 
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Amzin

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In this case it's the mobile version the one i want.
I wish they would add the option to export / import or use cloud saves on the mobile version, I've kept away from it because you never know when you'll need to reformat your phone or get a new one.
 
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knowing them - they'll probably port the mobile version ... except they'd first update the existing one to make it as shitty as humanly possible (just like they did with Chrono Trigger :p)

it's squeenix after all

The problem with the Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions is it has these really cool cut scene animations that got updated but they got rid of all of the in battle flavor texts that randomly happened and it annoyed the shit out of me.

The PSP version has it removed, the Mobile version has it removed but the PSP version has stuff the mobile version is missing and the mobile version has stuff the PSP version is missing as well but they're both missing that "flavor text" stuff.



It was shit like that and it didn't happen every time you used an ability, happened with 90% of the spells/special abilities/summons and it was one of those "Oh that's cool!" sort of things. Something just bugged the shit out of me until I realized that's what was gone for both versions.

At least if it ends up on PC (please)
Someone can mod it back in
 

Echoes

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I've started Dark Souls 2: SotFS and contrary to popular opinion I'm enjoying the game so far.
It's a great game, different in some aspects but in general it's another great trip from start to finish. The only aspect I didn't like was the difficulty of the dlc's, that aquatic city was something else :fearful-face:
 
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QFNS

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God I still don't understand why they won't put out FFT on PC. The mobile one is decent, a straight port with M/K and gamepad support should sell like the dickens. Its an all time classic! Even if they fuck it up (which they assuredly would), people love it enough to fix the port for them. It's all easy money on their end. I just don't get it.
 
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God I still don't understand why they won't put out FFT on PC. The mobile one is decent, a straight port with M/K and gamepad support should sell like the dickens. Its an all time classic! Even if they fuck it up (which they assuredly would), people love it enough to fix the port for them. It's all easy money on their end. I just don't get it.
squeenix gonna squeenix ... probably the same reason why they refuse to release DQB on PC
 

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It's a great game, different in some aspects but in general it's another great trip from start to finish. The only aspect I didn't like was the difficulty of the dlc's, that aquatic city was something else :fearful-face:
I feek the game is harder than the original Dark Souls except for some of the bosses.
 
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DMC 1 didn't age well, tried to play a bit of it with the DMC HD Collection and well, couldn't stand it for much time. Also played a bit of Quantum Break and so far, meh, I just finished act 2 (out of five, apparently), and there isn't much to praise other than the acting. It's one of those games that unless it end up starting a franchise down the line, it will end forgotten as time goes, for a reason.
 
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texhnolyze

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No Steam logo in sight.

Guess I have to wait for Nioh 2 Complete edition or whatever garbage they'll pull again.
Or maybe the 6-month exclusivity of the first game worked out pretty well for them, and they're more than happy to do that again. :disappointed-but-relieved-face:

But I guess I'm part of the problem as I double dipped on it. :upside-down-face:
 

toxicitizen

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Man, the Abyss in Nioh is some unfair fucking bullshit lol. The only achievement I have left is to reach floor 20 in it and I'm just hitting a complete wall on floor 14 despite having late (if not end)-game gear. I was really hoping to wrap the game up today but I might have to progress a little more on Way of the Wise...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Judgment is coming next. They'd be really stupid to skip ahead to Yakuza 6 and the remasters still haven't been announced for the West. Judgement is the most logical candidate. It's basically a new IP, so a fresh start that could potentially reach a new audience. And if they port it quickly enough they can charge full price for it.
 
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NarohDethan

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Look, I love Sega. But they should stop fucking around and start releasing their games on PC at the same time they release them on consoles.


No Steam logo in sight.

Guess I have to wait for Nioh 2 Complete edition or whatever garbage they'll pull again.
Typical KT game. Probably will be announced down the line, for some reason.
 

Mor

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I don't want to be the party pooper here but Australian rating board always put games as multiplatform so it's not really an indication of anything.

Zero doubts Judgment will come to PC in 2020 in the same way Yakuza did but not now and not by that rating. So sorry people, that's not the signal.
 

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I feel I need to add new rules to the BST trading thread. But before doing so I want to know what you feel about it. I am discussing it here since the BST thread is not for discussion.
I know that Meta don't have resellers, (those who buy for reselling purposes), but still I want to avoid this kind of behaviour. This is about the deactivated keys for the unredeemed Call of Duty Black Ops 4 Battle Edition.

The situation is this:
All non redeemed Blops 4 Battle edition were deactivated after that Humble replaced this edition with the Standard edition. Even if gift links on the Humble profile page were created those became invalidated. Those who activated the game on their Battle.net account still have the game. I haven't seen someone saying that they got the Battle edition removed from their account.

This means that the subscribers who sold their Battle edition key to people who bought those for reselling purposes are being risked to be called scammers. I feel this is an unfair situation for the sellers. Since they sold a working key at the time. They didn't know that Humble were going to deactivate them and replace them with a Standard key. Most have sold their keys at the beginning of the month, so it has been more than three weeks since the trade were done.

What I want to add to the rules list are following:
  • Don't buy for reselling purposes. If you still insist on doing so then you are responsible of your own actions.
  • Finished trades are final. Changes after each trade are not allowed
  • The seller is responsible that the key is working at the time of the trade
  • The buyer must make sure that the key is working directly after the trade
What do you think?
 

Milena

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I finished A Plague Tale: Innocence this week-end and I really liked it overall. The story and acting was good and I really appreciated that it didn't waste my time.
The gameplay is pretty simple, the stealth is easy and even the puzzle elements involving the rats don't require much effort, but I don't think these are cons in this case.

I also bought Void Bastards and Iron Marines, because I couldn't resist those tempting discounts :cold-sweat:
 

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New Jurassic World: Evolution expansion announced, titled "Claire's Sanctuary", available June 18 alongside free update
 

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What I want to add to the rules list are following:
  • Don't buy for reselling purposes. If you still insist on doing so then you are responsible of your own actions.
  • Finished trades are final. Changes after each trade are not allowed
  • The seller is responsible that the key is working at the time of the trade
  • The buyer must make sure that the key is working directly after the trade
What do you think?
I agree with the idea behind it. The main point I'd rephrase/add to is the last one. A few things come to mind.

If the buyer chooses to activate a key at a later point in time, the seller cannot be held accountable for its usability. -- i.e. if the buyer wants to take on the risk, it's on them. This broadens the last point a bit without making anyone unable or unwilling to immediately activate it in breach of the rules.

Some accountability on the part of the seller would also be fair, I think. Of course, nobody can anticipate Humble revoking keys. But if this happened within a day of selling someone a key, I would personally not deny them the new version. If its value had risen significantly, the situation could be resolved by the buyer paying a reasonable premium to get that new version.

So, if a key gets revoked within a day due to unforeseeable forces and:
a. if the seller was given a new code for an upgraded version, then the buyer of the old version is the first person that key should be offered to. The cost of this version would be set at the level of an "upgrade" rather than a wholly new product, reflecting the reasonable value of only the content added to the previous version and being in line with the previous selling price (e.g. with BLOPS 4, an upgrade price of €2 on top of the original price of €4, whilst the upgraded version's regular selling price would've been €6).
b. if the seller was not given a new code to replace the revoked key, then the seller cannot be accountable for the loss suffered by the buyer.

Regardless of the aforementioned, if a key gets revoked because it was fraudulently acquired, e.g. by exploiting a price error or as a result of a chargeback, I would hold the seller accountable unless this risk was disclosed to the buyer and they agreed to it.
 
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I agree with the idea behind it. The main point I'd rephrase/add to is the last one. A few things come to mind.

If the buyer chooses to activate a key at a later point in time, the seller cannot be held accountable for its usability. -- i.e. if the buyer wants to take on the risk, it's on them. This broadens the last point a bit without making anyone unable or unwilling to immediately activate it in breach of the rules.

Some accountability on the part of the seller would also be fair, I think. Of course, nobody can anticipate Humble revoking keys. But if this happened within a day of selling someone a key, I would personally not deny them the new version. If its value had risen significantly, the situation could be resolved by the buyer paying a reasonable premium to get that new version.

So, if a key gets revoked within a day due to unforeseeable forces and:
a. if the seller was given a new code for an upgraded version, then the buyer of the old version is the first person that key should be offered to. The cost of this version would be set at the level of an "upgrade" rather than a wholly new product, reflecting the reasonable value of only the content added to the previous version and being in line with the previous selling price (e.g. with BLOPS 4, an upgrade price of €2 on top of the original price of €4, whilst the upgraded version's regular selling price would've been €6).
b. if the seller was not given a new code to replace the revoked key, then the seller cannot be accountable for the loss suffered by the buyer.

Regardless of the aforementioned, if a key gets revoked because it was fraudulently acquired, e.g. by exploiting a price error or as a result of a chargeback, I would hold the seller accountable unless this risk was disclosed to the buyer and they agreed to it.
I agree on all your points.

What do you think about this additional rule? Also help me with grammatical error, if any :D
* If there is a replacement key available (as an upgrade key or another edition), re-negotiate your trade if the trade was done within reasonable time (max 1 week). If both parts cannot agree on the new terms, void the trade.
I'd like also notify everyone that do international trades. If you and your trader decides to void the trade, the seller will always have to pay a refund fee, if Paypal was used and it was an international payment. Both parts must agree on whom who should pay the fee or how to split the fee.

I know that I probably blow up the whole trading thing since the trading activity on Meta isn't big. But this is just to avoid all kind of trading conflicts that may happen.

If you all agrees on these additional rules I will add them to the BST thread

Here are all the new rules I want to add
  • Don't buy for reselling purposes. If you still insist on doing so then you are responsible of your own actions.
  • Finished trades are final. Changes after each trade are not allowed
  • The seller is responsible that the key is working at the time of the trade
  • The buyer must make sure that the key is working directly after the trade
  • If there is a replacement key available (as an upgrade key or another edition), re-negotiate your trade if the trade was done within reasonable time (max 1 week). If both parts cannot agree on the new terms, void the trade.
  • If you and your trader decides to void the trade, the seller will always have to pay a refund fee, if Paypal was used and it was an international payment. Both parts must agree on whom who should pay the fee or how to split the fee.
 
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I feel I need to add new rules to the BST trading thread.

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What do you think?
Probably should have something in there that states along the lines of "Both the seller and buyer should understand that by selling or purchasing a key you were likely to have broken a TOS agreement and that key changes or revocations are highly unlikely but still possible."
 

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Finished Gato Robo. Would've probably been mad if I paid more than a fiver for it but it's okay.

Honestly slightly mad that I seemingly can't go back and pick up the three collectibles that I've missed after beating the final boss. Always baffled when Metroidvanias do that.
 

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Biggest surprise is X1, wonder if they'll show it during MS' conference. Hope it'll find some good following on there
More chance it will be released on Switch than xbone lol. PC release is imminent tho.
 
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