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Trisolarian

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I'm here to say that I'm not super into Anime and that's OK!

I've seen the Ghbili movies, some of the other big ones, One punch man. Great stuff.

I'm gonna piss most of you off right now, so scroll down.

Akira, the movie, cuts way too much out from the graphic novel. Like I had no idea how much until I actually read Akira, the manga. Its FAR FAR better. I don't think I'll ever rewatch the film at this point. One Punch man's manga was better. And so on and so on.

I'm sure this is true of most Anime based off of graphic novels/manga. Same issue with comic book movies/tv shows. I think I'm a sucker for the written word and illustrated picture + word.

(Yes I saw your name and yes it was good)
 

Swenhir

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Akira, the movie, cuts way too much out from the graphic novel. Like I had no idea how much until I actually read Akira, the manga. Its FAR FAR better. I don't think I'll ever rewatch the film at this point. One Punch man's manga was better. And so on and so on.

I'm sure this is true of most Anime based off of graphic novels/manga. Same issue with comic book movies/tv shows. I think I'm a sucker for the written word and illustrated picture + word.
I adored Akira's manga and I have to say the movie has become a hard watch for me because of it. It's missing so much, from the nuances to the plot. You're not alone :). It's still an absolutely incredible film but I can't say I've found myself rewatching it a lot.

This makes me want to talk about Nausicaa again, the difference between the manga and the movie is even more vivid to me. Miyazaki's manga goes to absolutely, seriously incredible places and the movie simply pales in comparison. Compared to the themes approached in the manga of war and hatred, of Nausicaa's lack of innocence, of Mankind's irrversible evolution making it unfit for unpolluted land, all that without sinking into cynicism but instead remaining colored with hope and humanity the movie appears downright simplistic (when it really isn't and already conveys nuances and ideas that are timeless to this day) and you wouldn't believe they were both made by the same person. Not to mention the incredible art, pacing and... Yeah.

What I'm saying is those movies are amazing and it's a wonderful thing that there exists works that surpass them to such a large extent.
 
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This makes me unreasonably giddy. Atmospheric entry of other players visible from the ground is ridiculously cool :).

I'd create a gif but I can't figure out a service that actually works without ads.
 
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Im wondering if how well MS is doing on PC/Steam is part of why Sony is interested too.

MS now has both console players and access to a gigantic PC audience on Steam. I think Sony wants in too.
 

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Since we're making more Souls controversial statements, I'll go further: Bloodborne has the worst healing system AND the worst online system of all the From developed titles, immediately disqualifying it from "BeSt SOULS eVar" status

Don't get me wrong, still glad it's coming to PC and it's by no means a bad game.

I own Dark Souls 1+2+3 on steam, Demon Souls on PS3 and Bloodbourne on PS4, never played any of them!
Why would you keep buying into a series you haven't played?
 
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This is pretty much the same experience we had with sea of thieves two months ago. But with the addition that forming a group over pc game pass was unnecessary uncomfortable and didn't work half of the time.
Never touched it again after a "wasted" weekend.
That loss of time hurts, I feel you.

I've been lucky that forming a cross play group with two others has been easy. (Deep Rock Galactic was so awful at this that we all refunded it)

Beyond that, Sea of Thieves will always create time wasting moments of frustration. People will prey on you while complete quests and sometimes you lose. Some particularly dastardly folks will all take out a sloop for themselves and coordinate over third party chat and share the bounty after squatting a certain region of the map.

Overall, I'd still recommend sea of thieves. Where else do you get an achievement for playing instruments while the ship sinks? Playing it for nearly 8 weeks in about 12 sessions, we need a break. We'll be back. (Especially after my brother gets bitten by a zombie while a quarter mile from our base in State of Decay. He makes strange sounds when angry at games.)


On the subject of written/illustrated works vs their animated counterparts, 'The Boys' sucks harder than the try hard graphic novel. I said it. Garth Ennis is great for preacher but 'The Boys' is just that side of empty crassness that he later when all in on with the nasty (in a bad way) and nihilistic 'Crossed' series.
 
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Line

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I finally played and finished Turok.
Took me a while to get to it.

And I really, really enjoyed it, way more than back in the day. Not being a technical mess and being able to see more than twenty centimetres in front of you helps a lot.
The levels are very, very large (especially for the time, damn) without being labyrinthine and annoying, they hide a lot of secrets and plenty of powerful ammo (and the hidden weapon parts end up making one of the strongest weapons in the genre, too bad it's last boss-only without cheats), Turok is lightning fast and super fun to play as, the ennemies are numerous and offer decent variety with crazy good animations for the 90's.
It just feels good, and despite the extremely limited color palette and number of assets available, all the levels are very different with plenty of verticality and their own little gimmicks.
There's AI trouble here and there and some collisions issues on some objects, but it's pretty minor.

Weirdly enough, it's maybe a rare case of a game being better today than 20 years ago.
It's very well designed, and was held back by the hardware of the time; and it's now an excellent FPS with very welcome complex level design and fast gameplay without being annoying and slow with poor controls.


The worst thing about it is that Turok 2 is not nearly as good, and we never got more great Turok games.
I don't really want to jump in the sequel's frustrating non linear levels, even with the remaster's extra markings showing you the way (it's funny how the dreaded map markers ares still not enough in this one :face-with-tears-of-joy:).
 
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Li Kao

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I'm here to say that I'm not super into Anime and that's OK!

I've seen the Ghbili movies, some of the other big ones, One punch man. Great stuff.

I'm gonna piss most of you off right now, so scroll down.

Akira, the movie, cuts way too much out from the graphic novel. Like I had no idea how much until I actually read Akira, the manga. Its FAR FAR better. I don't think I'll ever rewatch the film at this point. One Punch man's manga was better. And so on and so on.

I'm sure this is true of most Anime based off of graphic novels/manga. Same issue with comic book movies/tv shows. I think I'm a sucker for the written word and illustrated picture + word.

(Yes I saw your name and yes it was good)
Bah, I'm a child of the 80's, saw the emergence of France fascination with Japanese pop culture, so of fucking course, in theory, I love anime.
It's just that, and I assure you I'm not the usual modern anime hater, the current output seems to be doing nothing for me. I'm not into moe, I'm not into Japan obsession with school life, I watch one or two episodes of something and chances are good that I won't feel the need to continue.
 

Li Kao

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On the subject of written/illustrated works vs their animated counterparts, 'The Boys' sucks harder than the try hard graphic novel. I said it. Garth Ennis is great for preacher but 'The Boys' is just that side of empty crassness that he later when all in on with the nasty (in a bad way) and nihilistic 'Crossed' series.
And his Hellblazer run. His Hitman run looks nice too. But yeah, Garth Ennis 'moment' looks to be firmly in the past.
Nothing to be ashamed of, not everybody can put out things of the quality he did, but a little sad to see.
 
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I finally played and finished Turok.
Took me a while to get to it.

And I really, really enjoyed it, way more than back in the day. Not being a technical mess and being able to see more than twenty centimetres in front of you helps a lot.
The levels are very, very large (especially for the time, damn) without being labyrinthine and annoying, they hide a lot of secrets and plenty of powerful ammo (and the hidden weapon parts end up making one of the strongest weapons in the genre, too bad it's last boss-only without cheats), Turok is lightning fast and super fun to play as, the ennemies are numerous and offer decent variety with crazy good animations for the 90's.
It just feels good, and despite the extremely limited color palette and number of assets available, all the levels are very different with plenty of verticality and their own little gimmicks.
There's AI trouble here and there and some collisions issues on some objects, but it's pretty minor.

Weirdly enough, it's maybe a rare case of a game being better today than 20 years ago.
It's very well designed, and was held back by the hardware of the time; and it's now an excellent FPS with very welcome complex level design and fast gameplay without being annoying and slow with poor controls.


The worst thing about it is that Turok 2 is not nearly as good, and we never got more great Turok games.
I don't really want to jump in the sequel's frustrating non linear levels, even with the remaster's extra markings showing you the way (it's funny how the dreaded map markers ares still not enough in this one :face-with-tears-of-joy:).
Turok 1 is good, but I hate getting lost in it since it makes me lose interest :S
 

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Well I'll talk about favorite fights in a souls game and it's Demons Souls

It's when
you become the boss for someone else as the golden wrapped tornado looking head wrapped hat, I ended up fighting against another guy for like 45 minutes and by the end of it he eventually won because I ran out of healing stuff but then like 4 minutes later I got a bunch of hate mail from what I can only assume was this guy on PSN saying how that was the lamest shit on earth. I thought it was great.
 
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Line

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Line the original or the rebooted one?
The original remastered. The 2008 reboot is... not very good.
Turok 1 is good, but I hate getting lost in it since it makes me lose interest :S
With the map, it's honestly not too complicated. I had no issue finding all keys and all chronoscepter pieces with no need for a guide. A couple could be a bit annoying, but if you"re thorough, finishing the game is very doable without much difficulty. The levels are fairly linear ultimately, as long as you don't take teleporters and explore before that, it's fine... and you can go back anyway.
Now Turok 2 is a complete nightmare, and even with a guide I'm not sure I could do it today.
 

Mor

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Hmm, as far as I'm concerned it is already confirmed. Thanks to Mor .
The rest is just the usual "waiting for the PC port" game, that I'm already used to.
I am not sony so I cant confirm anything, I'm a third party entity here and can only talk for myself :)

always wait for official confirmation :cat-heart-blob:
 

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Since we're making Souls-related controversial statements, let me pitch in: The absolute worst part of any Souls game is the boss battles.
I've been liking the boss battles less with the newer games.
Mainly because I wanted to use slow-but-powerful weapons, but regular enemies and bosses just get faster and faster. Dark Souls 3 was an exercise in frustration and at one point I just started summoning help for every boss.
 

Swenhir

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I've been liking the boss battles less with the newer games.
Mainly because I wanted to use slow-but-powerful weapons, but regular enemies and bosses just get faster and faster. Dark Souls 3 was an exercise in frustration and at one point I just started summoning help for every boss.
They've also started adding fake-outs where animations have similar wind-ups but different outcomes with only minute differences in DS3.
 
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I've been liking the boss battles less with the newer games.
Mainly because I wanted to use slow-but-powerful weapons, but regular enemies and bosses just get faster and faster. Dark Souls 3 was an exercise in frustration and at one point I just started summoning help for every boss.
Me too and I felt zero shame in doing it. I played the Sister Friede battle with three summons (one NPC, two human players). Zero fucks given.
 

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The thing I hate the most about recent Souls bosses is the multiple phases and health bars. I'm fine with the boss changing tactics and gaining new moves after a certain health threshold but show me the full health bar right from the start.
 

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I've been liking the boss battles less with the newer games.
Mainly because I wanted to use slow-but-powerful weapons, but regular enemies and bosses just get faster and faster. Dark Souls 3 was an exercise in frustration and at one point I just started summoning help for every boss.
Yes!

I remember fighting Nameless King with a 2h weapon and getting obliterated constantly. Even when I tried to get one hit in, I always seemed to get hit due to his speed and my slow swing. Summoned 2 friends for it in the end.
 

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The thing I hate the most about recent Souls bosses is the multiple phases and health bars. I'm fine with the boss changing tactics and gaining new moves after a certain health threshold but show me the full health bar right from the start.
I will certainly agree with this.

Many Souls of late have really taken the piss with the “gotcha it’s not dead yet!” moments
 
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I've been liking the boss battles less with the newer games.
Mainly because I wanted to use slow-but-powerful weapons, but regular enemies and bosses just get faster and faster. Dark Souls 3 was an exercise in frustration and at one point I just started summoning help for every boss.
Imagine playing a Dark Souls game without the Balder Side Sword and its brethren
 
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