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Mor

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:thinking: Someone is shaking, which results in a bit of spam on madjoki's bot.

It's Valve's system. For an unknown reason every 10-20 games the system gets stuck with one particular ID and the launch doesn't happen, it's funny but the result is that game is spamming such information as the process enters on an endless loop until it's fixed.

It has been happening since March more or less, exactly since the lockdowns started.
 

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Got my SN30 Pro+ yesterday and like it. Will probably be the controller I use going forward when I want/need a controller even if I am not a fan of the stick layout and I miss the backpaddles of the Steam Controller. Also kinda wish they printed the button letters on the buttons themselves instead of next to them even if it would've broke the Gameboy aesthetic. Now I have to wire my brain "No, this is Nintendo. It is the other way around here. Oh, but I am using it on my PC so it is the other way around than on the controller" instead of being able to switch the buttons around.
 
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Got my SN30 Pro+ yesterday and like it. Will probably be the controller I use going forward when I want/need a controller even if I am not a fan of the stick layout and I miss the backpaddles of the Steam Controller. Also kinda wish they printed the button letters on the buttons themselves instead of next to them even if it would've broke the Gameboy aesthetic. Now I have to wire my brain "No, this is Nintendo. It is the other way around here. Oh, but I am using it on my PC so it is the other way around than on the controller" instead of being able to switch the buttons around.
Yeah, it would be great if it had some back buttons. I really like the feel of the face buttons and d-pad on the SN30Pro+ though.

Currently, I use that for most 2D games where the D-pad is a great advantage, and where you usually don't need that many buttons anyway.
I use the Steam controller for almost all 3D games, due to the much better camera control and extra back buttons.
 
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Yeah, it would be great if it had some back buttons. I really like the feel of the face buttons and d-pad on the SN30Pro+ though.

Currently, I use that for most 2D games where the D-pad is a great advantage, and where you usually don't need that many buttons anyway.
I use the Steam controller for almost all 3D games, due to the much better camera control and extra back buttons.
Even if I don't use it much anymore I have been looking into the DS4 back button attachement... if it were available anywhere. The moments in which they are useful are countless.

I like to use the Steam Controller for "walking simulators" and liked to use it for iso-games. Mainly use m+kb for 3D games because using the trackpad on the Steam Controller for camera control never felt right to me regardless of what I did with the settings. And like I mentioned earlier, the size is a bit big for my trumpian hands. Like, I feel pretty certain that my not enjoying the Saga Scarlet Grace can be traced a bit to me holding the Steam Controller. Really like it and hope Valve improves on it with the second one that has been leaked.
 

Cacher

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Hi everyone, Jim here. This is my second post here on MC. Just want to come in and say hi. A few of you may know me back on Era or other places. This place will probably become my home for pc gaming discussion in the future. I am also an anime lover and have a switch and several other past gen consoles so we can talk about those as well. Anyway, look forward to chat with you all!
 

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I hope the Bloodborne rumors are true. I tried two times to play it on my PS4 already and I just couldn't force myself to keep going. The frame pacing was so bad and jesus christ all the flickering and chromatic aberration was sickening.

I now there are some ugly ass spiders later in the game I hope I can overcome my arachnophobia :sweaty-blob:
 

kio

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Will today be the day we'll get Darksiders III in choice?
 

Swenhir

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To be honest I don't much care for Bloodborne itself, I've finished all three Dark Souls games but they're not among my favorites. I am interested in these announcements mainly because of the positive impact on the PC platform. Having access to as many games as possible, including those by Microsoft and Sony, is a huge boon for PC gaming and it will no doubt bring in more people to the platform.
I feel the same way.

I'm glad for BB fans that it is coming to PC, there is no doubt about that. It'll be the definitive edition of a technically flawed game on its platform of release. At the same time I'm not seeing it as the kind of holy grail many seem to and From games have turned me off for a while now (as did the aggressive fans putting other games down).

Out of personal taste, I'll be way more excited for something like ND games or GoW. I am still really glad that exclusives from all horizons are coming to PC. Walled gardens benefit nobody but the companies sequestering games there.

Hi everyone, Jim here. This is my second post here on MC. Just want to come in and say hi. A few of you may know me back on Era or other places. This place will probably become my home for pc gaming discussion in the future. I am also an anime lover and have a switch and several other past gen consoles so we can talk about those as well. Anyway, look forward to chat with you all!
Welcome! This is definitively a good place to talk about anything PC-related :). We also have many anime enthusiasts here, notably Lashman. He's been on the lookout for some moe since Clannad ended.
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Edit : typos, I blame mornings and anime
 
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fantomena

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I love Bloodborne, might be my game of the gen. I give the game a 9.5/10 and the only thing dragging the game down is 30 FPS and frame pacing issues. I finished it 3 times for all 3 endings and I would do it again on PC.

Hi everyone, Jim here. This is my second post here on MC. Just want to come in and say hi. A few of you may know me back on Era or other places. This place will probably become my home for pc gaming discussion in the future. I am also an anime lover and have a switch and several other past gen consoles so we can talk about those as well. Anyway, look forward to chat with you all!
Hi!

The forum is PC centric, but we do talk about consoles here too. Many people own console(s) here so no need to worry about wanting to discuss consoles too. I personally own a Switch, PS4 and Xbox One despite that I mainly play on PC.
 

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Welcome anime lover 😍

There are a bunch of anime haters. But they still love anime lovers :)
Thanks for the warm welcome! I can totally understand why someone would hate anime though so that's fine by me!
Welcome! This is definitively a good place to talk about anything PC-related :). We also have many anime enthusiasts here, notably Lashman. He's been on the lookout for some moe since Clannad ended.
Hmm, the last moe anime I have watched... Maybe Bofuri? If we are talking about moe shows that are more notable, I would totally recommend Yuru Camp. Fantastic show.
Hi!

The forum is PC centric, but we do talk about consoles here too. Many people own console(s) here so no need to worry about wanting to discuss consoles too. I personally own a Switch, PS4 and Xbox One despite that I mainly play on PC.
Hi fantomena. I don't know why but somehow you are on my friend list on steam lol. In the past year I mainly play on Switch and did not touch my gaming PC at all (did not bring it aboard). Now I am temporary back to hometown due to covid19, I will put more time into PC gaming even though I am currently progressing through Tokyo Mirage Session and Dead Cells on switch. Look forward to the new batch of Humble Choice today as well as the upcoming summer sale to add more games into the backlog :)
Oh god not more anime...

But welcome Jim_Cacher
No worries, I don't like bad anime (looking at you, Nekopara). 😎
 

fantomena

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Prediction: Bloodborne will sell masively on PC as long as it is released on Steam. Tons of people who has played it on PS4 will double dip. I guess I can even say that a lot of people who played the game on PS4 are PC gamers who don't want to play it on PS4. Im one of them. I have finished the game 3 times on PS4, but I don't want to play it there.

A PC version of Bloodborne will probably sell more than PS4 and PS5 versions combined.

Now I wonder if a Demon's Souls Remake will be PS5 and PC.
 

Swenhir

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Prediction: Bloodborne will sell masively on PC as long as it is released on Steam. Tons of people who has played it on PS4 will double dip. I guess I can even say that a lot of people who played the game on PS4 are PC gamers who don't want to play it on PS4. Im one of them. I have finished the game 3 times on PS4, but I don't want to play it there.
I think that's a reasonable prediction. I could see about 1 mil sales during the first week and the unfortunate technical issues that were never patched mean that the PC version holds appeal for not only Xbox and PC gamers but also the PS4 community. That's a pretty likely outcome in my opinion.
 
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Cacher

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It may sound crazy but I somehow have never played any Souls game even though I have watched some playthroughs of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1.. My copy of Demon Soul is still lying inside the closet. I would definitely play them though if both BB and the rumored DS remake coming to PC.
Welcome, Jim_Cacher! :cat-heart-blob:



Wait.
There's good anime?


I kid, I kid. I like Studio Ghibli movies :grimacing-face:
I love Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Such a masterpiece. :cat-heart-blob:

It's weird. I actually do not watch anime shows as many as I was a few years ago (even though my work is anime-related).
 
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Durante

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Prediction: Bloodborne will sell masively on PC as long as it is released on Steam.
Absolutely. There's 0 doubt in my mind that it would sell millions on Steam, Dark Souls is the single most profitable modern Japanese franchise on the platform after all.

Also, personally, even though from all I read I doubt I'd like it as much as DS, I care much more about Bloodborne than any of the Sony games (or all of them put together :p).
 

Milena

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I'd honestly give most of Sony games a try, but Bloodborne is the one I'm certainly looking forward to the most. I tried it on PS4 (my brother has it), but it was painful. I can't play Souls game at 30fps anymore.

Horizon and The Last of Us 2 are the others I'm most interested in. I can see myself playing for hours with the Photomode in those games :awwblob:
I mean, I assume TLoU2 will have it, since the remaster for the first game did.
 

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I hope the Bloodborne rumors are true. I tried two times to play it on my PS4 already and I just couldn't force myself to keep going. The frame pacing was so bad and jesus christ all the flickering and chromatic aberration was sickening.

I now there are some ugly ass spiders later in the game I hope I can overcome my arachnophobia :sweaty-blob:
I usually despise CA, but I thought that Bloodborne actually used it to really good effect due to the overall art design and world, where there was a reason for things to look unreal/dreamlike. Still, it would be nice to be able to turn it off. Running on PC with better/stable framerate would be glorious.

Regarding the spiders -- Bloodborne is one of those games where I legitimately had a "HOLY SHIT" moment just strolling around minding my own business. It remains of of my favorite moments in gaming ever. This game has the best about-face in terms of theme. It's really unlike other souls games with how it starts out as one thing and turns into another. And the DLC, holy crap. It's really something special, one of the few things that could tear me away from obsessively replaying Yakuza.
 
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Cacher

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I actually rewatched it yesterday! Probably the Miyazaki film with the most fire and heart in it. Have you read the manga? It takes it... places.
Oh, I haven't. I will grab it once back to Japan.
 

ISee

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Hi everyone, Jim here. This is my second post here on MC. Just want to come in and say hi. A few of you may know me back on Era or other places. This place will probably become my home for pc gaming discussion in the future. I am also an anime lover and have a switch and several other past gen consoles so we can talk about those as well. Anyway, look forward to chat with you all!
You should know, you are only befriending 60% of the people in this thread with Anime.
I strongly recommend to bring cookies next time. Cookies is something everybody agrees upon. 😛


Jokes aside, welcome to Meta.
 

Rosenkrantz

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I'm going to make a controversial statement: Souls-likes bore me. I own every DS there is and still haven't finished a single one of them. Sekiro is basically the only modern From game I didn't drop after a couple of hours.

With that being said, I'm gonna buy Bloodborne, just for the sake of having an entire collection.
 

Swenhir

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I'm going to make a controversial statement: Souls-likes bore me. I own every DS there is and still haven't finished a single one of them. Sekiro is basically the only modern From game I didn't drop after a couple of hours.

With that being said, I'm gonna buy Bloodborne, just for the sake of having an entire collection.
I am strongly opposed to and dislike the core design of Souls games, so know you aren't alone. However as long as I'm left alone and their design ethos aren't forced on me, I'm happy to see people feel such joy at something. I can't get mad at someone for being happy and rejoicing :).

I'm still going to look for BB on sale later on because if there's one thing I don't dislike about From games, it's their world. DS was the closest thing to a proper Berserk videogame world we'd ever gotten on PC and no, that dynasty warriors travesty doesn't count.
 

Milena

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I'm going to make a controversial statement: Souls-likes bore me. I own every DS there is and still haven't finished a single one of them. Sekiro is basically the only modern From game I didn't drop after a couple of hours.

With that being said, I'm gonna buy Bloodborne, just for the sake of having an entire collection.
Not really controversial, I can totally see how they'd be boring to someone. They're slow burn games for the most part, with awesome art, level design and character customization, some great boss fights alongside some incredibly frustrating ones, an awesome soundtrack and an impossible lore to comprehend :face-with-stuck-out-tongue-and-tightly-closed-eyes:

There are a lot of famous games / series that I personally find incredibly boring. C'est la vie :coffee-blob:
 
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Hi everyone, Jim here. This is my second post here on MC. Just want to come in and say hi. A few of you may know me back on Era or other places. This place will probably become my home for pc gaming discussion in the future. I am also an anime lover and have a switch and several other past gen consoles so we can talk about those as well. Anyway, look forward to chat with you all!
Welcome!

While this is also the anime thread [UWSL](sometimes) [/UWSL]we have an actual anime thread here and a manga/comic thread here :p
 

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I mean, I don't think that's controversial, it's an opinion. Basically every single cinematic AAA(A) action game bores me, but those sell in the millions so clearly people have different opinions on them :p

Dark Souls games (all 3 of them) are very exciting to explore for me for many reasons, but what it really boils down to I think is that they put a different relative value on various game design aspects compared to most games being released in a similar genre, or with similar production values. This has been slightly mitigated by the impact the Souls' series popularity has had on other games, of course, but it's still quite obvious when you play them.

I just feel much more involved in a game if I know it expects me to actually be careful, discover things (even mechanics!) on my own, and maybe fail sometimes than when it mostly does away with all of that to varying degrees.
 

Rosenkrantz

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I tried The Cultist Simulator and I have no clue what's going on. The writing seems to be sharp but there's so much busy work that I hardly have enough time to read anything relevant. It also feels incredibly oppressive in regards of cards you've been dealt with, but it's fitting given the Lovecraft influence.
 
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I mean, I don't think that's controversial, it's an opinion. Basically every single cinematic AAA(A) action game bores me, but those sell in the millions so clearly people have different opinions on them :p

Dark Souls games (all 3 of them) are very exciting to explore for me for many reasons, but what it really boils down to I think is that they put a different relative value on various game design aspects compared to most games being released in a similar genre, or with similar production values. This has been slightly mitigated by the impact the Souls' series popularity has had on other games, of course, but it's still quite obvious when you play them.

I just feel much more involved in a game if I know it expects me to actually be careful, discover things (even mechanics!) on my own, and maybe fail sometimes than when it mostly does away with all of that to varying degrees.
It's pretty funny because everything you said applies nearly perfectly to my experience with MHW and I think you worded it really well. I just don't feel the same way about DS, but most of my qualms revolve around tedium and bosses. I think someone's opinion and enjoyment of From games is going to hinge massively on how one feels about repetition.
 

Cacher

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You should know, you are only befriending 60% of the people in this thread with Anime.
I strongly recommend to bring cookies next time. Cookies is something everybody agrees upon. 😛


Jokes aside, welcome to Meta.
Welcome!

While this is also the anime thread [UWSL][UWSL](sometimes) [/UWSL][/UWSL]we have an actual anime thread here and a manga/comic thread here :p
Thanks for the welcome. I will check out those threads soon!
 

Rosenkrantz

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I mean, I don't think that's controversial, it's an opinion. Basically every single cinematic AAA(A) action game bores me, but those sell in the millions so clearly people have different opinions on them :p

Dark Souls games (all 3 of them) are very exciting to explore for me for many reasons, but what it really boils down to I think is that they put a different relative value on various game design aspects compared to most games being released in a similar genre, or with similar production values. This has been slightly mitigated by the impact the Souls' series popularity has had on other games, of course, but it's still quite obvious when you play them.

I just feel much more involved in a game if I know it expects me to actually be careful, discover things (even mechanics!) on my own, and maybe fail sometimes than when it mostly does away with all of that to varying degrees.
I absolutely prefer games with design sensibilities similar to Dark Souls myself, it's just that for whatever reason DS itself never clicked with me. I think the main reason behind it is its narrative design and overall game loop, Sekiro with its emphasis on stealth and more traditional narrative structure works much better for me.
 

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All you new Sea of Thieves players, prepare for pain.

So you and a crew of close buds want to tackle a tall tale? Great! These quests are fun and involve partially randomly generated elements and usually take an hour to complete.

Oh wait, that's IF YOU FUCKING COMPLETE IT! Oh yeah, you can totally lose 40 minutes of work no problem if you get boarded by a group of caffeinated 12 year olds. Needless to say, this caused a bit of frustration to myself and two other crewmates. So much so that we ditched tall tales for one of our weekly sessions.

But wait! Rare heard our pleas! Now tall tales have checkpoints!!! Nice.

Except they still find a way to fuck you over hard. Spend too long on beach waiting for your brother to stop dicking around on the rowboat after the ship sinks and you die? QUEST FAILED MOTHERFUCKER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME SUCKER. Now its 12:15 am, my crewmates have been hitting the rl 'grog' and every puzzle we solved? Not useful.

So, tonight its State of Decay 2 and Gears of War 5. As two of them are new to state of decay, I expect crying and gnashing of the teeth within a half an hour.
 

ISee

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All you new Sea of Thieves players, prepare for pain.

So you and a crew of close buds want to tackle a tall tale? Great! These quests are fun and involve partially randomly generated elements and usually take an hour to complete.

Oh wait, that's IF YOU FUCKING COMPLETE IT! Oh yeah, you can totally lose 40 minutes of work no problem if you get boarded by a group of caffeinated 12 year olds. Needless to say, this caused a bit of frustration to myself and two other crewmates. So much so that we ditched tall tales for one of our weekly sessions.

But wait! Rare heard our pleas! Now tall tales have checkpoints!!! Nice.

Except they still find a way to fuck you over hard. Spend too long on beach waiting for your brother to stop dicking around on the rowboat after the ship sinks and you die? QUEST FAILED MOTHERFUCKER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME SUCKER. Now its 12:15 am, my crewmates have been hitting the rl 'grog' and every puzzle we solved? Not useful.

So, tonight its State of Decay 2 and Gears of War 5. As two of them are new to state of decay, I expect crying and gnashing of the teeth within a half an hour.
This is pretty much the same experience we had with sea of thieves two months ago. But with the addition that forming a group over pc game pass was unnecessary uncomfortable and didn't work half of the time.
Never touched it again after a "wasted" weekend.
 
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