Community MetaSteam | March 2019 - The Core Values of One-Handed Fighting

[lashman]

Good break down of it lol. Shameful bandwagon behavior from PC Gamer writer. I'm gonna stop giving them clicks tbh.

Edit: Snipped a bit of the quoted post to save space.

and the worst thing about all of this is that they're only really willing to listen to developers really .... the opinions of people buying those games doesn't matter to them one bit ... it's really sad

 

[Firewithin]

I feel like this tweet is way stupider if you understand what spawned this tweet. Sorry in advance for this screed I'm about to write.

BACKGROUND FOR THOSE OOTL

A petition was started to add a specific anti-vaxxer scenario to Plague Inc. The developer tweeted and said that if the petition got 10k signatures, they'd do it:


Two days later, the petition had reached its goal (over 20k now actually!), and the developer said they'd add it soon:


The reception I saw was largely positive and jocular pretty much everywhere from Steam to Twitter to even Reddit.

Then, this dipshit goes and finds a few stupid recent reviews after this anti-vaxxer scenario announcement to highlight Steam's "hilarious" reviews:


But HOLD UP. Let's break that screenshot down real quick.

In this image, one review is just calling the game "so bad." It's a worthless review, but there's no proof of correlation between it and the anti-vaxxer scenario.

One review is calling the developers "far-left SJWs." Again, a very stupid and very worthless review, but not one that explicitly shows correlation to the anti-vaxxer scenario. It's likely to be as much about the Brexit jokes that the games makes as about the vaccine thing. There's also the issue that there are at least some anti-vaxxers among the so-called "far-left SJW" crowd, which further compounds the difficulty of attributing this review to the upcoming scenario (research shows anti-vaxxers are largely white, college-educated people who demonstrate a disposition towards conspiratorial mindsets).

And the reason I'm confident in suggesting this second review (like the first) might be about Brexit or something entirely unrelated to vaccines is because the review above these two is literally some schmuck complaining about the game making "Brexit commentary":

Anyways, back to the screenshot, you finally have one review which is actually attacking the anti-vaxxer scenario and whining. Fine, we can concede on that one.

So this one stupid review about vaccines inspires the one dipshit to screenshot it to laugh at it, which inspires this dipshit (actually the Designer/Programmer of Where the Water Tastes Like Wine) to say:


Which then inspires this dipshit (PC Gamer Writer) to say:


But wait a second, how about the other recent reviews since the announcement?

Oh ho. Dang. They're actually positive and like the anti-vaxxer inclusion.

And wait a second, what about that one actual stupid rant from that initial screenshot?

What? I can't find the review anymore, where'd it go! It should be right between these two! I better go check the user's Steam profile and see where it went. Maybe he deleted it himself?

Oh whoops, Steam removed the review because it broke the ToS.

BUT.
MUH.
NARRATIVE.

This was quite the ride

 

[Ex-User (307)]

and the worst thing about all of this is that they're only really willing to listen to developers really .... the opinions of people buying those games doesn't matter to them one bit ... it's really sad

To some extent, the gaming "writer" being a dork is whatever. The dumber part is the developer, because I do not understand the train of thought that some of these devs have.

• There are hundreds of indie games released every month, with the average being something like well over 500 a month.
• Even if you somehow curate the "bad" and/or truly "mediocre" games out, there are still probably going to be at least upwards of 200+ solid games a month.
• The gaming press in general does a horrendous job covering games outside of the AAA bubble, because those games don't drive clicks.
• Gaming "personalities" also do a horrendous job covering new games, because stream/channel viewers are ridiculously capricious and typically want to see their streamer only playing a certain game.
• And to make it all worse, a growing number of games are "service" games, designed to keep you playing for as long as possible (which also means I'm too busy to pay attention to your little indie game!).

In light of this reality, how in the hell do indie game devs expect us to hear about their games?

If I can't rely on the gaming press, if I can't rely on your horrendous marketing abilities, if I can't rely on Twitch personalities, how in the hell am I supposed to make informed decisions about what your game is, without user reviews?

 

[madjoki]

To some extent, the gaming "writer" being a dork is whatever. The dumber part is the developer, because I do not understand the train of thought that some of these devs have.

• There are hundreds of indie games released every month, with the average being something like well over 500 a month.
• Even if you somehow curate the "bad" and/or truly "mediocre" games out, there are still probably going to be at least upwards of 200+ solid games a month.
• The gaming press in general does a horrendous job covering games outside of the AAA bubble, because those games don't drive clicks.
• Gaming "personalities" also do a horrendous job covering new games, because stream/channel viewers are ridiculously capricious and typically want to see their streamer only playing a certain game.
• And to make it all worse, a growing number of games are "service" games, designed to keep you playing for as long as possible (which also means I'm too busy to pay attention to your little indie game!).

In light of this reality, how in the hell do indie game devs expect us to hear about their games?

If I can't rely on the gaming press, if I can't rely on your horrendous marketing abilities, if I can't rely on Twitch personalities, how in the hell am I supposed to make informed decisions about what your game is, without user reviews?

Epic is surely gonna choose my game and I'm gonna win! Suckers!

 

[OSatan]

Fight for survival in real-time battles to unearth the truth of your newly cloned bodies in Zanki Zero: Last Beginning, the latest RPG from the creators of the Danganronpa series.
The latest gameplay trailer shows you how to survive as the last 8 survivors of humanity! The game releases on April 9, 2019.

At the start I was like "this looks like trash really" at the end I was throwing money at the screen, I need this game!

Here's what matters. In Yakuza Kiwami you can regain health by drinking booze. Finally Yakuza can be the best life simulation.
Booze heals, you're an unstoppable fighting man, every punk on the street wants to fight you, and Majima pops out of every other sewer grate to assault you. Also I think Kiryu has never fucked and I'm 99% sure that's cannon.

What a game.

If this was 5 you could also be an unstoppable bout machine while drunk but this is not 5 ;_;

 

[Digoman]

I feel like this tweet is way stupider if you understand what spawned this tweet. Sorry in advance for this screed I'm about to write.
[....]
BUT.
MUH.
NARRATIVE.

Thank you for all the info. It is truly a stupid example to try to use to show how "bad" the review system is. By my last count, since 26-Feb there have been a total of 39 reviews, of which 30 were positive and 8 were negative (the missing one is probably the banned you mentioned). So.... really.... let's abolish Steam for that?

In light of this reality, how in the hell do indie game devs expect us to hear about their games?

If I can't rely on the gaming press, if I can't rely on your horrendous marketing abilities, if I can't rely on Twitch personalities, how in the hell am I supposed to make informed decisions about what your game is, without user reviews?

Well, going by the recent attitude of several indie developers, they really don't want customers making "informed" decisions and think they can control the message about their games even if they don't have the marketing resources of the big publishers.

As to what they want specifically, we can only guess, but it probably is this:

Epic is surely gonna choose my game and I'm gonna win! Suckers!

They want the heavily curated Steam of the "old days", where getting on the store was almost a guarantee of success. It's pretty clear from the posts/tweets/whatever we are seeing that they think it's Valve job to make their game a success. But even if you forget all the good games that didn't make to Steam then, it is a vastly different market now, with way more competition.

Which is why all this hostility towards the userbase is baffling. The best tool they have is strong word-of-mouth, and treating your customers like enemies is not a good way to start.

 

[BAN PUNCHER]

 

[lashman]

If I can't rely on the gaming press, if I can't rely on your horrendous marketing abilities, if I can't rely on Twitch personalities, how in the hell am I supposed to make informed decisions about what your game is, without user reviews?

blind faith, duh

 

[MonthOLDpickle]

Back from Japan. What did I miss?

 

[lashman]

Back from Japan. What did I miss?

not much really

how was your trip?

 

[MonthOLDpickle]

Was nice, got new a new sake container and some cups. Hotsprings and snow, etc. It is cheap to go to Japan from Taiwan ^.^

 

[Deleted member 113]

The Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy is out next month. For those that never played these games, don't sleep on this release, they are well worth a purchase.
It may not look like it, but these games are Japanese adventure gaming at their best.

I played the 3 games on my Nintendo DS, and along with the Igavania games, these were my favourite games available on the platform.
Fun cases, engaging characters, a catchy as hell soundtrack that is used to great effect, these games are truly worth experiencing.

The games usually alternate between 2 types of segments: the investigation phase, where you interview people, and collect evidence to support your theories; and the court phase, where you try to catch contradictions during witness testimonies, present collected evidence, and experience a lot of crazy, over the top twists and shenanigans that have no place in a real court.
You'll get to investigate a murder on the set of a Samurai TV show, defend a magician accused of murdering his boss and circus ringmaster, interrogate a talking parrot, and much more.

Plus, it's three 20 hour or so games, so the price is very reasonable for what you're getting.
For those like me who don't have a lot of time for gaming, don't be afraid of the 60 hours or so that these would take in total to finish. Since each game is split into several cases, you can easily finish a case, and return a couple of weeks later for a new one.

 

[lashman]

Was nice, got new a new sake container and some cups. Hotsprings and snow, etc. It is cheap to go to Japan from Taiwan ^.^

niiiice

 

[OSatan]

report this please.

 

[Ex-User (307)]

PSA: The third case in Justice For All is in fact complete butts to play and made me drop the game for months. I actually found it to be worse than people say it is.

If you hate it as much as I did, consider just using a guide to get through it ASAP.

 

[lashman]

report this please

did the day it was added to steam (19 days ago) ... i don't need clickbaity articles to report shitty games

funnily enough - virtually no one would ever know this game existed if not for all those articles

 

[OSatan]

did the day it was added to steam (19 days ago) ... i don't need clickbaity articles to report shitty games

funnily enough - virtually no one would ever know this game existed if not for all those articles

I actually encourage that type of articles in this case. It shines a light and we know steam reporting works.

 

[lashman]

I actually encourage that type of articles in this case. It shines a light and we know steam reporting works.

it doesn't really matter in this case ... there's absolutely ZERO chance this thing would've gotten through volvo's approval process (they don't filter added store pages ... but they DO filter games approved for release)

although - yes, i agree they probably should, at the very least, add an automated checker to flag certain keywords as "hey, maybe an actual human should look at this store page someone just put up" ... wouldn't hurt

 

[OSatan]

it doesn't really matter in this case ... there's absolutely ZERO chance this thing would've gotten through volvo's approval process (they don't filter added store pages ... but they DO filter games approved for release)

True at this level but It still poisons the store and only attracts copycats better to not let it simmer.

 

[lashman]

True at this level but It still poisons the store and only attracts copycats better to not let it simmer.

true ... edited my reply

although - yes, i agree they probably should, at the very least, add an automated checker to flag certain keywords as "hey, maybe an actual human should look at this store page someone just put up" ... wouldn't hurt

 

[Deleted member 113]

funnily enough - virtually no one would ever know this game existed if not for all those articles

It's true. The first time I heard about this game was when I saw the link above a few moments ago, and I now see the usual suspects published articles about this.

But, either way, it's a bad look for Valve, especially since you tell me the store page has been up for 19 days, and they still haven't taken it down?

Unlike many, I applaud Valve's willingness to carry adult games, be it violent games, or games with explicit sex.
There are quality titles that feature either or both of these, and I certainly don't see the inclusion of explicit sex as a sign of a bad game.
But, there's adult games, and then there's a game called "Rape Day", with a description that says the game allows you to "Verbally harass, kill, and rape women", and a note saying it includes "sexual assault, non-consensual sex, obscene language, necrophilia, and incest". This should have obviously been taken down almost immediately. It's not the kind of content that brings a good look to the store, and the content included is actually illegal in several countries.

This is so blatant, it almost seems like this was done purely to make the platform look bad, since I seriously doubt whoever uploaded it had any real expectations of releasing the game.

 

[lashman]

But, either way, it's a bad look for Valve, especially since you tell me the store page has been up for 19 days, and they still haven't taken it down?

that's because volvo don't check store pages when they go up (there are only automated checks there ... if all the content has been added, screenshots, etc.) ... they DO manual checks, however, when a game is ready to go on sale .... every single game is manually checked by a Real Human™ before it's allowed to go on sale

 

[Deleted member 113]

that's because volvo don't check store pages when they go up (there are only automated checks there ... if all the content has been added, screenshots, etc.) ... they DO manual checks, however, when a game is ready to go on sale .... every single game is manually checked by a Real Human™ before it's allowed to go on sale

Yeah, I understand that, and I get how it could have been uploaded without them checking.
But, you mentioned you reported it 19 days ago. This should have made them at least take a look at that store page, and take down the game.
It's a bit perplexing how the game has lasted that long showing those images, and using that name and description.

This is one of the things Valve needs to improve. Certainly, having a single person checking the new store pages that are added won't break their bank.
They love to do things automatically, but human intervention is needed in things like these.

PSA: The third case in Justice For All is in fact complete butts to play and made me drop the game for months. I actually found it to be worse than people say it is.

If you hate it as much as I did, consider just using a guide to get through it ASAP.

I finished all three games, without using guides, and I don't remember struggling with any case in particular.
I didn't know this case was so poorly received. It's not my favourite, but I don't recall having a particularly bad reaction to it.
I guess I'll find out when I replay the games when the upcoming PC version launches.

 

[Ex-User (307)]

I finished all three games, without using guides, and I don't remember struggling with any case in particular.
I didn't know this case was so poorly received. It's not my favourite, but I don't recall having a particularly bad reaction to it.
I guess I'll find out when I replay the games when the upcoming PC version launches.

Just to clarify, it wasn't a struggle with difficulty or anything.

I just found it boring as hell, with a bunch of fairly unlikeable (and annoying!) characters, and as far as I remember, it's the case that seemed to have the least to do with the overarching game plot/theme.

I think people have remarked that the third cases in the games tend to feel the weakest. Been a while since I've played them so I can't remember exactly, but that might just be a weird filler-ish issue in some of the games of trying to bridge all the cases together.

Still great games worth playing though.

 

[lashman]

Yeah, I understand that, and I get how it could have been uploaded without them checking.
But, you mentioned you reported it 19 days ago. This should have made them at least take a look at that store page, and take down the game.
It's a bit perplexing how the game has lasted that long showing those images, and using that name and description.

oh, i agree i'm just saying that if it wasn't for those articles - practically no one would ever hear about this game, volvo would've rejected it (and possibly also banned the dev) come release and that would've been that

This is one of the things Valve needs to improve. Certainly, having a single person checking the new store pages that are added won't break their bank.
They love to do things automatically, but human intervention is needed in things like these.

oh, it's definitely possible ... i would know - i check every single store page haha

 

[Deleted member 113]

oh, it's definitely possible ... i would know - i check every single store page haha

Yeah, you and Mor appear to check more Steam pages than Valve's actual employees.

 

[lashman]

Yeah, you and Mor appear to check more Steam pages than Valve's actual employees.

yes, indeed, we have no lives

 

[Tizoc]

Valve really needs to step up their cert peo ess dor a game beyond 'does the game run without issues'

 

[lashman]

Valve really needs to step up their cert peo ess dor a game beyond 'does the game run without issues'

but they already have ... years ago ...

the problem here is the fact that they don't check store pages when they go up .... but they absolutely DO check everything manually (as in: a real human does it) when the game is about to go on sale

 

[Tizoc]

but they already have ... years ago ...

the problem here is the fact that they don't check store pages when they go up .... but they absolutely DO check everything manually (as in: a real human does it) when the game is about to go on sale

Then how the heck did that game get ok-ed by an actual human being?
I wouldve noped that game instantly.

 

[lashman]

Then how the heck did that game get ok-ed by an actual human being?
I wouldve noped that game instantly.

it hasn't .... the "actual human being" part happens right before the game is released (as in: can be bought) .... before that there's just an automatic check for technical stuff (if screenshots have been uploaded, if everything is the right format etc.)

 

[Ex-User (307)]

but they already have ... years ago ...

the problem here is the fact that they don't check store pages when they go up .... but they absolutely DO check everything manually (as in: a real human does it) when the game is about to go on sale

Haven't we also had issues where seemingly innocuous pages get turned into something more (for lack of a better word) troll-ish later?

There's even the bizarre problem where sometimes Valve seems to have some kind of brief hacking issue of inventory items suddenly having x-rated content/thumbnails.

They make enough money that they need to just check when the page gets put up, and when games get significant store changes/updates.

 

[lashman]

Haven't we also had issues where seemingly innocuous pages get turned into something more (for lack of a better word) troll-ish later?

yes ... but that's kinda the problem of them being too developer-friendly, oddly enough .... because the alternative to devs being able to change their store pages on the fly would be volvo having to check and approve every single change for every single store page - which could take A LONG time (think: console patch approval ... and how long it takes ... and they have a SHITLOAD of people checking that stuff)

again - not saying they shouldn't do anything about it .... but having to approve all changes probably isn't a solution here either

There's even the bizarre problem where sometimes Valve seems to have some kind of brief hacking issue of inventory items suddenly having x-rated content/thumbnails.

it wasn't that ... it was, again, them being too developer-friendly ... they just assumed devs wouldn't be assholes trying to upload literal porn as thumbnails for market items ... but it only takes one troll, sadly ... they're definitely checking those now, it was in one of their announcement last year

as for the "hack" part - it wasn't a hack ... it was, yet again, volvo assuming developers aren't assholes ... and they weren't checking what people (devs, i mean) are naming their market items ... so what some "geniuses" did was create market items with the same names, descriptions and thumbnails as some high-value items from DoTA and CSGO

They make enough money that they need to just check when the page gets put up, and when games get significant store changes/updates.

i don't think that's doable ... not when there are literally dozens (if not hundreds) of store pages added to steam each day (and there literally are, trust me - i know ) ... i mean, yeah, sure, maybe checking each new store page is doable .... but checking every single change made to the existing ones? i don't think so ... there are thousands of games on steam and having to check every single change to a store page (and let's face it - if some asshole wants to be an asshole - they can do it even by changing just a few words or images ... they'd find a way around "just checking for significant changes", trust me) would eventually just end up with the situation in my first reply here - long waiting times for devs, until volvo checks and approves everything

 

[Tizoc]

it hasn't .... the "actual human being" part happens right before the game is released (as in: can be bought) .... before that there's just an automatic check for technical stuff (if screenshots have been uploaded, if everything is the right format etc.)

Then i go back to my.initial point of needing to step it up when it comes to cetifiying games, because that rape day game shouldn't have been oked in the first place.

 

[lashman]

Then i go back to my.initial point of needing to step it up when it comes to cetifiying games, because that rape day game shouldn't have been oked in the first place.

yeah, like i said - they probably, at the very least, need some sort of an automatic keyword flagging system ... so that when a store page for a game like that goes live someone somewhere at volvo gets a notification that says "hey, maybe someone should look at this store page soon"

would definitely be an improvement, that's for sure

 

[Frecklestein]

yes, indeed, we have no lives

You sacrifice yours so that we may live ours

7

 

[lashman]

You sacrifice yours so that we may live ours

7

lol ... nah i just like to see what cool new games will be out soon(ish) ... and since i'm already checking all the store pages anyway for myself, i might as well post the links in here, so other people can find out about interesting games no one else (like streamers, youtubers, big gaming websites etc.) will probably talk about ever ... indies are cool!

 

[Frecklestein]

lol ... nah i just like to see what cool new games will be out soon(ish) ... and since i'm already checking all the store pages anyway for myself, i might as well post the links in here, so other people can find out about interesting games no one else (like streamers, youtubers, big gaming websites etc.) will probably talk about ever ... indies are cool!

I'm glad that you do. Over the years I'm sure there are quite a few games I probably credit to you for discovering for me. So I appreciate ya, boss.

 

[lashman]

I'm glad that you do. Over the years I'm sure there are quite a few games I probably credit to you for discovering for me. So I appreciate ya, boss.

awww, thanks ... that's good to hear!

 

[Ex-User (307)]

i don't think that's doable ... not when there are literally dozens (if not hundreds) of store pages added to steam each day (and there literally are, trust me - i know ) ... i mean, yeah, sure, maybe checking each new store page is doable .... but checking every single change made to the existing ones? i don't think so ... there are thousands of games on steam and having to check every single change to a store page (and let's face it - if some asshole wants to be an asshole - they can do it even by changing just a few words or images ... they'd find a way around "just checking for significant changes", trust me) would eventually just end up with the situation in my first reply here - long waiting times for devs, until volvo checks and approves everything

I think that's why something could trigger for a significant store page change.

Like if you change some threshold percent (say 80% just for discussion) of the information on the page, maybe it triggers a flag to have the page checked ASAP.

I dunno, maybe that's too "developer unfriendly" or too much work.

 

[lashman]

I think that's why something could trigger for a significant store page change.

Like if you change some threshold percent (say 80% just for discussion) of the information on the page, maybe it triggers a flag to have the page checked ASAP.

I dunno, maybe that's too "developer unfriendly" or too much work.

no, no ... i'm sure that would be perfectly doable

the problem is - if someone wants to be an asshole, they can be an asshole under that 80% threshold .... or 50% ... or 10% ... or 5%

80% (or whatever) threshold won't stop someone from changing their store page to say bad shit if they're really determined

and i'm not saying i don't trust anyone either ... i'm sure most devs are normal people ... but you know very well - it only takes one asshole to ruin shit for everybody

naturally i'm not saying they should just do nothing and leave everything as is ... obviously not ... but it probably needs to be done in a different way, that's all ... what different way? i have no idea unfortunately

 

[Le Pertti]

Couldn't valve let devs create any store page they want and change as much as they want, but have it be hidden and have it controlled when it can be seen by others?

Also how I do I not have trine 3!? It's been bundled and cheap so many times but I checked and I don't have it. O_O

 

[lashman]

Couldn't valve let devs create any store page they want and change as much as they want, but have it be hidden and have it controlled when it can be seen by others?

well, i mean ... sure ... but then no one could wishlist or pre-order the game until it was approved for release (which is usually just before release)

and then - what do volvo do about a game that's already out and wants to change stuff on their store page?

 

[Le Pertti]

well, i mean ... sure ... but then no one could wishlist or pre-order the game until it was approved for release (which is usually just before release)

and then - what do volvo do about a game that's already out and wants to change stuff on their store page?

I mean when having the page go live, meaning one can still wishlist and pre-order and all that. Like some dating sites have it, once you first create your profile it has to be approved. But yeah once the page is live a dev should be able to change it.

 

[Ex-User (307)]

no, no ... i'm sure that would be perfectly doable

the problem is - if someone wants to be an asshole, they can be an asshole under that 80% threshold .... or 50% ... or 10% ... or 5%

80% (or whatever) threshold won't stop someone from changing their store page to say bad shit if they're really determined

and i'm not saying i don't trust anyone either ... i'm sure most devs are normal people ... but you know very well - it only takes one asshole to ruin shit for everybody

naturally i'm not saying they should just do nothing and leave everything as is ... obviously not ... but it probably needs to be done in a different way, that's all ... what different way? i have no idea unfortunately

I only gave an example threshold because I assumed like most Volvo things, it would be a hidden threshold that no one would actually know

And like other Volvo things, maybe it would change based on sliding factors, e.g., maybe if you're a "trusted" dev with multiple releases, you get significantly more leeway to make changes freely.

Again, I dunno. Maybe it's too complicated. There should be some feasible system to make it easier on everyone though.

 

[Ascheroth]

This topic is what keeps annoying me the most about Steam.
First they kept seemingly randomly banning (proper) VNs without much communication. After they got backlash they instead opened up the store for adult content, which I found was a great move by them and I hoped it would be over with that.
But now it looks like they're still seemingly randomly banning VNs (Kara no Shoujo 2 anyone?) while shit like the previously mentioned game manages to stay on the store for weeks despite being reported.
Valve is incredibly, incredibly garbage when it comes to this topic and it's incredibly annoying.

 

[lashman]

There should be some feasible system to make it easier on everyone though.

oh, no argument from me there ... i definitely agree

i didn't write all that stuff before to convince you it could never work, so they shouldn't do anything i just wanted to show you that no matter how low that percentage would be - someone would still find a way to get around it if they were determined enough ... that's what i do - i nitpick and poke holes, sorry haha

This topic is what keeps annoying me the most about Steam.
First they kept seemingly randomly banning (proper) VNs without much communication. After they got backlash they instead opened up the store for adult content, which I found was a great move by them and I hoped it would be over with that.
But now it looks like they're still seemingly randomly banning VNs (Kara no Shoujo 2 anyone?) while shit like the previously mentioned game manages to stay on the store for weeks despite being reported.
Valve is incredibly, incredibly garbage when it comes to this topic and it's incredibly annoying.

i imagine it mostly depends on who's checking those VNs (not saying that's good or anything ... but that's probably why it's happening randomly)

and the previously managed game wasn't being sold yet, so volvo haven't even seen it yet (well, i imagine they've seen it NOW because of all the articles and stuff)

 

[Mor]

Yeah, you and Mor appear to check more Steam pages than Valve's actual employees.

As I have implied in multiple times, I think we could handle as a team the Steam doors, we have different criteria but we can identify what's legit and what is not (well, I sometimes get some asset flips if I don't know any previous background of the developer)

 

[Wok]

yeah, like i said - they probably, at the very least, need some sort of an automatic keyword flagging system ... so that when a store page for a game like that goes live someone somewhere at volvo gets a notification that says "hey, maybe someone should look at this store page soon"

would definitely be an improvement, that's for sure

They could also have checked the screenshots on the store page against Amazon Rekognition (or another service) which they use for screenshots on the hub.

 

[lashman]

They could also have checked the screenshots on the store page against Amazon Rekognition (or another service) which they use for screenshots on the hub.

... or that, yeah! definitely!