Community MetaSteam | May 2021 - Wallets Gone
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I think people are letting snippets of certain phrases go to their imaginations a bit much. You couldn't build a $2000 handheld that could play all Steam games in a practical manner, it's just not physically possible - battery and heat at minimum come into play, the higher end you go the more the battery becomes a huge issue.
What you can do for a more accessibly priced handheld is stream stuff - you just need good wifi and some modest processing. The handheld itself will likely be able to install and run more reasonably spec'd game offline and stream anything from your other Steam PCs (I mean, it will 100% have heavy remote play support - as you already do on any phone, pc, laptop, or tablet), possibly integration with some other streaming service but that is purely hypothetical.
The absolutely confirmed things:
What you can do for a more accessibly priced handheld is stream stuff - you just need good wifi and some modest processing. The handheld itself will likely be able to install and run more reasonably spec'd game offline and stream anything from your other Steam PCs (I mean, it will 100% have heavy remote play support - as you already do on any phone, pc, laptop, or tablet), possibly integration with some other streaming service but that is purely hypothetical.
The absolutely confirmed things:
- Valve are working on a handheld device with Steam focus in mind
- No known technology can run many of the most popular Steam titles in a handheld format offline in any practical sense
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Are we expecting the 4xxx series from nvidia now? That feels a little soon.
The rumored specs are complete and utter overkill for streaming. For me this is clearly a device meant to play games natively.
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no, we're not ... they're already sold out (to miners and scalpers)
I wonder if we will be able to make phone calls with the SteamPhone SteamPal. Competing with the Switch sounds less enticing than with the iPhone to me.
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Phone calls? Tim Sweeney is preparing the antitrust lawsuit as we speak.
I would not expect a new generation of Nvidia cards before the end of the next year.
The current generation is still selling better than probably any previous generation. They sadly have no reason to release a new generation this year.
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I'm still both impressed and unconvinced by UE5's virtual triangle tech. Clearly meant to take advantage of SSDs but there's something about it that doesn't quite sit right with me. Storage space aside, there's always a sacrifice in performance and I think this is no exception. Not quite sure about the decimation algorithm itself's quality either. It could be fantastic but I smell a trade-off.
Lord Gaben is totally bringing back Side-Talking with PC2 when it launches!
Huh, an IndieGala bundle that seems to be really neat: https://www.indiegala.com/bundle/monster-striker-steam-bundle
Have 2 on my wishlist and the others look good too.
Have 2 on my wishlist and the others look good too.
I find it funny that despite having an exclusive on EGS, Sega doesn't seem to be releasing most of their newer titles on it.
made some vr grips, much better than the ones i had before
time to make a long fucking shopping list of what im gonna get after e3 pog
Again, it cannot possibly play big name 3D games (for example) natively in any practical way. Either the price would be astronomical and you'd have no battery life while doing so, or it simply can't run them in anything other than lowest settings at best, and even then I'm skeptical (I have a laptop with a dedicated GPU and there are many games it can't run basically at all AND even the ones it can, it kills the battery in under an hour). I would love a handheld device that can play all my games offline easy peasy while on the go but it's not possible with our tech right now.
I said in my post it will almost certainly play some games installed locally. Some. Things like Control, Apex, Ark, Forza, etc. are likely no gos for offline handhelds unless they are ported specifically to it which this is not purported to be. The most likely money to bet is again: enough power to play stuff like many, many thousands of indie games, VNs, 2D whatevers, installed on it, while also being designed specifically (hopefully) for best Steam Remote Play work also.
This is just going off the couple points of confirmed knowledge AND knowledge of what is technically possible. There's not really any point in any hypothetical that relies on heretofore unheard of tech.
Finally gonna see Starfield which is awesome. Wild that it was revealed in 2018.
Re-playing Mass Effect really gave me that Sci Fi itch.
Re-playing Mass Effect really gave me that Sci Fi itch.
I don't think any of that is true. The Phawx did a video analyzing the rumored specs and he thinks Van Gogh would be a massive improvement in performance over what is currently available, at the same TDP.
Maybe the rumored specs are not true. Maybe the price is astronomical. But what we've heard so far does not support your argument.
I thought we were all aware that the future has cloudy teleporting killing elevators????
Elevators (more precisely, physics grid transitions) are the #1 cause of death in SC. Not even kidding. Physics and physics grid are finicky as hell lately.
Edit : still the most ambitious game I've had the pleasure of playing, to be clear. Joke bug videos kind of obscure that reality.
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"analyzing rumored specs" "thinks would be a massive improvement" that's completely pointless to even refer to at this time. Again it would have to be something that completely blows what we have now out of the water, a complete game-changer, to be what people are already hyping this up to be - more powerful than the handheld tech we have now while also significantly less power intensive than other chips used to play those games while also affordable and generating less heat, and still compatible natively with the Steam library (which is very likely using a Linux OS which means there are already some games that will be excluded more than likely).
It could exist, sure. But there is no evidence of it at all. That's my point. There are precisely 2 points of confirmed info and everything else is rumored and people are making up impossible technology off of nothing. I personally am hoping for something that gives a Switch-esque experience but with Steam, with the option of (reliably) streaming games it can't run well itself, and even that is a longshot given the hiccups still existing with remote play and the difficulty of doing the easy-suspend stuff with PC gaming compared to games designed for it on Switch. Whatever super-mega-amazing as-good-as-a-midrange-gaming-desktop-in-your-hands thing people are imagining won't exist.
My argument is it will run some non-high-end games offline / locally if you want, and remote play other things if you want. Everything confirmed so far supports that.
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Microsoft is holding an Xbox and Bethesda showcase on June 13th
The event is set to begin at 1PM ET.
There's some pretty powerful (and premium) mobile tech from the likes of Apple, but we're talking x64 APUs to run PC games here, not a new console for ports. That said your estimate can maybe stretch to stuff like running some of the AAA games at 720p/super low settings/almost 30fps, like some current iGPUs do.
But hey if GabeN brings us PC2Pocket I'll be the first in line to get it rather than wait for a way and the cash to upgrade my aging PC. Until then I'll prefer to be surprised at such a reveal rather than expect it and then be disappointed that it indeed is basically a Valve branded GPD SteamOS4 that still costs a premium.
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But that's the thing: There is a ton of evidence that it exists. An AMD engineer literally posted boot data from an engineering sample of the Van Gogh APU. Even if that doesn't make it to market, there's also Dragon Crest (very similar to Van Gogh) and the upcoming Rembrandt U which might also be suitable.
Again: we don't know what Valve has planned but to claim that suitable APUs cannot exist is just craziness.
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oh, look ... Queen was right YET AGAIN
who knew
Today in the "I feel old" department:
1) I probably need to get reading glasses soon.
2) It is time to ditch my trusty old membrane Logitech keyboard since it's finally starting to fail.... so I thought "I'm going to use the opportunity to get a good mechanical one" and started to search about it.... and now I'm very confused old man trying to choose between switch types, coating of the keys and so on... and also wondering why people like so many lights on they keyboard these days. Aren't they looking at the monitor?
As someone who really likes single player games.... the more Sony exclusives come over, the better.
1) I probably need to get reading glasses soon.
2) It is time to ditch my trusty old membrane Logitech keyboard since it's finally starting to fail.... so I thought "I'm going to use the opportunity to get a good mechanical one" and started to search about it.... and now I'm very confused old man trying to choose between switch types, coating of the keys and so on... and also wondering why people like so many lights on they keyboard these days. Aren't they looking at the monitor?
Are you saying that people who don't keep screaming "I know all the secrets! Pay attention to me!!" are actually the most reliable ones? That can't be!oh, look ... Queen was right YET AGAIN
As someone who really likes single player games.... the more Sony exclusives come over, the better.
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also - 2 threads (by Virtual Ruminant) that could use some love
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hopefully the Nathan Drake Collection is coming to PC as well
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i know ... shockingAre you saying that people who don't keep screaming "I know all the secrets! Pay attention to me!!" are actually the most reliable ones? That can't be!
it is
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