Yeah, imagine actually playing videogames instead of adding them to your hoard and staring at them like a human dragon, fucking loser.
Community MetaSteam | September 2019 - Valve, I Know What You Did Last Summer!
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Here's how you can make the most out of the beta library customization options:
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Here's how you can make the best out of the beta library customization options:
I guess it's a given that Indivisible will be joining too later. I guess I can pass that up on Steam, shitty regional pricing anyway.
This is very short-sighted, and could potentially have big repercussions.Alright.
French Justice just called illegal some Steam user conditions.
It's illegal not to be able to resell your games.
It's illegal not to be able to sell your Steam account.
Valve can no longer refuse to refund wallet money because they are now creating electronic money.
User privacy is also flagged.
They've been fined 30 000€.
Didn't have time to read everything in detail, but it's quite something. Don't know if there's an English version elsewhere.
UFC-Que Choisir vs Valve : la justice consacre la vente d'occasion des jeux dématérialisés ! - Next
Le contrat Steam de l’éditeur Valve a été attaqué par l'UFC Que Choisir. Dans sa décision rendue ce 17 septembre, le TGI de Paris annule plusieurs clauses. Dans le lot, celle qui prohibe la revente des licences de jeu. Une révolution en matière de plateformes de jeux dématérialisés. Next INpact...www.nextinpact.com
justice report :
Warning : article free for today, don't know if it's available outside France.
A Norwegian retailer (Komplett.no) posted about Borderlands 3 on their Facebook page about the game being available now. Did not expect as many "Waiting on Steam" (in Norwegian of course) comments as they were.
Maybe, just maybe, people not liking Epics tactics in gaining marketshare is not just a small whiny minority on the Internet.
Maybe, just maybe, people not liking Epics tactics in gaining marketshare is not just a small whiny minority on the Internet.
Story of my life. Also, kudos for using the best Pokemon of all time
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Yeah, the game is incredibly flawed. Such a disappointment after Remember Me and Life Is Strange.
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I'm not using Game Pass, at all. Beginning to wonder about me extending my sub these days. Firstly because of my own convoluted psyche, and because of the modern monetization model.
When someone talked about feeling forced to play games on the sub, I thought the idea ridiculous (no offense meant, at all), but maybe there is some comparable feelings at work. I'm not feeling the urge to play those games, but on the other hand, how do I put it... you don't get to choose what I play. I already can't decide myself anyways. Maybe the offering is treated as noise by my mind.
Mhh, convoluted half-assed explanation, sorry.
Then, more importantly, 95% of games are released in chunks nowadays, and DLC are not automatically part of Game Pass. So when the game has been released for some time, like The Surge, I would have to pay more than the sub to buy a DLC for a game I don't own.
And at the end of the day, we go back to the definitive statement of 2019 : there are so many games available anyways...
Wait a sec, this is not Psyduck !Story of my life. Also, kudos for using the best Pokemon of all time
Is Sayonara Wild Hearts not coming to PC?
Yeah. They've already teased it but its an Annapurna game so you can be basically 100% sure it'll be exclusive.
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Druglord XCOM? That looks really neat.
Are those all recent Beth games? Putting his face on an unsuspecting game would really be a crimeHere's how you can make the most out of the beta library customization options:
That's the great thing about legislation. It wouldn't matter one bit if they're ok with it or not. If it becomes law they'll have to oblige.
So what you are saying, the great thing about laws is that a law can simply tell everyone to go fuck themselves without facing any repercussions other than people protesting.
And btw, a law is not a universal saying if something is good or bad.
Are you trying to compare a remark about the legislation on video game marketplaces to an apology of fascism ?
A whole lot. I ended up getting stuck on Witch ep 6 and forgot how to play.
People have always been able to sell physical games, how does it destroy devs if you have a reasonable equivalent for digital games?
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What Alexandros said obviously apply to video game business, your answer seemed beside the point.
Dust Golem wrote a post about this on ERA:
Steam should let users resell games, French court rules
I don't care much about reselling my own digital games, but if this would provide the possibility of purchasing delisted games from people that bought them whilst they were available, then I'm ready to throw some serious cash around.
www.resetera.com
His comment was that laws must be obliged to, publishers/devs can't do much about it other than protesting. Doesn't that apply to any given law? If people don't like a law, they can't do much about it other than protesting? And just because a new law forces Valve to make people able to sell their games, doesn't mean it's good. Other consequences can happen like pubs and devs moving even harder to Epic.
I love Dusk Golem, but that's just dumb. Of course the digital game is limited by the number of unique licenses sold in the first place, and the DRM is Steams database of the corresponding keys.
I actually prefer it to Remember Me, which I think also had a lot BS segments to its combat, but I think it's fair to say that DONTNOID should concentrate on the narrative driven games instead of action-oriented ones.
I'm not disagreeing, but on this specific topic I think the larger reflexion about law being right or wrong, universal or not, a little too much.
Imho evidently.
I don’t necessarily buy the argument about worse DRM solutions.
I do agree that monetization, MTX, and general pricing will go even more insane if digital resale rights were enforced.
Yes, that is exactly right. Being able to sell the goods you bought is a fundamental customer right and publishers have removed it by taking advantage of the law's inability to keep up with technological developments. The law absolutely should tell publishers to go fuck themselves.
Of course. There are all sorts of fucked up laws throughout human history but in this case the law would be objectively good.
I disagree. The ability of reselling games is good and all, I don't disagree on that. I disagree because I think the consequences will be worse. More mtx, pubs/Devs moving to other platforms, higher prices, worse regional pricing, and so on.
Will devs/pubs lock their games to regions? How will the law handle that? How will the law handle region pricing?
I edited my post because not being a native speaker I wasn't sure luxury goods applied. That being said, what ? No seriously and without passive agressivity, I don't understand your answer to me
Edit - Hey, you edited your post, now I look dumb ! Well, dumber than usual.
And where will they run to once those clients comply with the laws of the EU? Valve certainly doesn't want to do any of this, it cuts into their profits, but it's not about what you want, but what complies with the law
it would be interesting to see how valve implement such a resale feature into steam and what it would do with region locking the clientDust Golem wrote a post about this on ERA:
Steam should let users resell games, French court rules
I don't care much about reselling my own digital games, but if this would provide the possibility of purchasing delisted games from people that bought them whilst they were available, then I'm ready to throw some serious cash around.
His comment was that laws must be obliged to, publishers/devs can't do much about it other than protesting. Doesn't that apply to any given law? If people don't like a law, they can't do much about it other than protesting? And just because a new law forces Valve to make people able to sell their games, doesn't mean it's good. Other consequences can happen like pubs and devs moving even harder to Epic.
Wait, I thought PC Gaming was already dead, stop confusing me
I don't see the connection between game resale and the consequences you mentioned. How will one lead to the other?
But then EGS would also have to allow resold games or they would also get fined.
If the right to resell digital goods becomes law it will affect every digital distributor on every platform, it won't be just for Valve.
He is implying that publishers will change their monetization model to even more micro transactions, region locks, ect. because they will be losing money on initial sales. I think it is a reasonable long term fear.
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