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Spelunky 2 got a 9/10 from Edge which is a magazine known for being notoriously critical.
Edge is critical like Famitsu is critical: capricious. I'm all for critics being critics but I wish they'd stop slapping numeric scores on things.
 

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:cuteblob: I do offer my services for remote play to anyone interested though! It'd be a pleasure to show the Spelunky love for those scared of its difficulty.
Eh, I dropped the game at the final boss :tightly-closed-eyes:
The mofo insta-killing me was a big nope, the runs were hard enough :sweaty-blob:
 

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What's the context? I mean in 1995 or 1996 the graphics were fantastic. In 1998, there was no comparing something like Unreal to PS1... Although I thought MGS1 was amazingly stylish and still looked great upon release in its way AFTER playing Unreal and Half Life (cough ahem).
I will not accept this Herasey, /s

Joking aside I was never able to beat MGS, i'm sure that story wise it is very good and all of that other stuff but gameplay wise at least for me it does not feel like it aged well (I like to use analog to move characters around, I might give it another go though. Also I have no idea how people were even able to play the original MGS3, I could be wrong but the 3DS version has a different control scheme more closer to a modern game and I liked it)



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This video is interesting but ya Cliffy B does seem to be butt hurt though.
 
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MGS did support the dual shock afaik (edit: most definitely did, dat torture scene). Not that it changes much but yeah, you said you want analog control, it has it.
 

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MGS did support the dual shock afaik (edit: most definitely did, dat torture scene). Not that it changes much but yeah, you said you want analog control, it has it.
I am going to go back and check at some point since I played it on my PS Vita
 

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This video is interesting but ya Cliffy B does seem to be butt hurt though.
Cliffy B in this interview (the full version of it) goes from hilarious "ok boomer" stuff ("kids nowadays only know of two games!!!!") to seem like a depressingly bitter person spouting a lot of obvious stuff. To complete the picture, the idiots at 3D Realms laughed at him after the interview.
 
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P.S. I feel like I don't really enjoy live streams and i'm more into compressed versions of those live streams since I don't really engage in chat
 
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Hamachi? I haven't heard that in a long time. Is the built-in online broken?
Yes, connecting directly via IP or via Steam didn't work at all. Even port forwarding didn't work.

 

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Cliffy B in this video goes from hilarious "ok boomer" stuff ("kids nowadays only know of two games!!!!") to seem like a depressingly bitter person spouting a lot of obvious stuff. To complete the picture, the idiots at 3D Realms laughed at him after the interview.
oh well that's not good, I mean there were some things here and there that he said that painted a picture of who he was and what his goals were (sort of), him wanting to surpass John Remero (All I know is that John was involved with iD and DOOM and well the way that Cliffy explained John, just makes john sound really cool). He also talks about how some things have changed (which a lot of people already know and he does sound like a broken record at times)


But ya making fun of the dude at least right after "talking to him" (pre-recorded) just doesn't feel right seeing how the dude seems to be down on his luck.


Also for the most part I think I would only maybe play 1-2 games after all of these years if those games still had a very active player base and active dev support, so I don't blame kids for that.

I feel like he know way more about all of these people and all of these games and stuff despite me and him being the same age. Most of the really popular FPS games and stuff that were mentioned in this show are games that I didn't learn about until maybe the last 3-4 years ago. I didn't even know what Sin was. But I would like to try some of these "Boomer Shooters"
 

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I think it's a pretty revisionist take, at the time it was fine IIRC. Just the curse of early 3d. Ages like solid shit.

On the other hand I have 1:30:00 give or take to know if I want to give money to a bunch of assholes, at the very least (Ion Fury). I'm not the most woke person there is, but their little drama left a sour taste.
It's annoying, it's one of the boomer shooters that interests me the most. I'm far more Doom than Quake, but I'm also more Duke Nukem than Quake.
Various PSOne models still look good IMO. yes there is the curse of early 3D, but even then there is a nice charm to their look.
The early 3 Crash games all look really nice still for one thing.
If anything, SEGA's Model 3 arcade games were ahead of their time, and I was blown away by Virtua Fighter 3 which was made in 1996!

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The Dodge Viper remains my favourite vehicle to this day....shame it is a 2 door car though :S
Won the first run I tried with the Shardtail Queen in Monster Train! It was the first time I found Imps to feel useful for me, and also the first time I felt like I could pick up the Consumer of Crowns which was great with 2 of them with multistirke.
I legit had to look up what card that is XP
Consumer of Crowns is not a worthwhile investment, but I hadn't put any time in utilizing the new Red Champion because her entire abilities are confusing for me. Then again I also don't bother with Imps :p
Best Red Clan units for COMBAT: Alpha Demon, the pink demon with 30 atk, and the 4 ember demon.
 
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MGS did support the dual shock afaik (edit: most definitely did, dat torture scene). Not that it changes much but yeah, you said you want analog control, it has it.
Also 'place your controller on the ground - I'll make it move with my mind!'
 
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This video is interesting but ya Cliffy B does seem to be butt hurt though.
Man I can tell I'd have a lot to say about his interview.

About the boomer chat: What happened (or rather, didn't happen in that nothing has actually changed) is gaming brought in a whole new tier of casual gamers (gamers took notice every time it jumped up). Those kids with the RGB PC setups aren't the actual hardcore. Hardcore gamers (the group) are defined by what they play (meaning the definition of a hardcore gamer is one that gives a major fuck about games and plays as many games as possible).

The number of hardcore gamers probably hasn't grown much in the last 30 years. In the old days there were exclusively hardcore gamers (because I don't think you can have a mainstream audience of anything before you have a small fanatical audience). But now we have hundreds of millions of additional casual gamers who aren't really there for games (as a collective - they don't give a shit about 99% of the things a hardcore gamer cares about) but are instead in for socialization, or for streaming sake, or because they like one or two particular video games. And when the market tries to chase that new bigger audience that's a fickle thing.

Just like Cliffy says, the cynical manipulative games started a long time ago, even before he mentions, in the 90's. Everquest (which I love) was a manipulative game that targeted the hardcore, everyone knew it. But that doesn't make a dedicated audience because they're hardcore, they're going to always be looking for more. WoW was the game that hooked the mainstream in the same way.

But we always had that one-games audience. I would say in America it started with Madden (like the first one). In Japan Tokimeki Memorial. Over time it was Wii Sports, it was Wii Fit, it was & is Call of Duty, someone coined the term 'core' gamers, now it's Fortnite. That is the vast majority of the games industry now.

Maybe it's self evident, but I very rarely see developers actually understand any of this even if they've seen it very clearly. Every big success is more than half a fluke, because they don't seem to really understand any part of the market (hardcore nor casual). Quality and success aren't disjoint but they aren't highly correlated.
 

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Hey anyone help me with game swap/trading? 😅 (I've never done it)
I know there is a subreddit and some websites, but I have no clue which are trustworthy or how to approach.

Actually Digimon Cyberslueth was on sale on some sites, and I was hoping to swap it with some steam keys I had.
 
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BTW when I ramble about hardcore vs mainstream gamers it's without judgment. But just trying to define how the industry is & those who care about games & what everyone wants out of games I think it's useful (if you're trying to sell a game, you shouldn't confuse your audience).

It's fine to not actually care about video games. Just like I don't care about movies. If literally another movie was never made and all the movies ever made went away forever I would barely feel anything.

But the biggest mistake I see large companies make is when they really don't understand who they're trying to sell to, and that's how you get the absolutely ruinous disasters like those WoW clones that I can't even remember the names to.
 

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Super hyped for this. Had a ton of fun speedrunning Spark 2 trying to get those diamond medals. Everything about it looks like a step up so far.

I just hope the composers of Spark 1/2 return because they've been busy with No Straight Roads so hopefully they're able to return for this too.
 
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Guess what a certain ninja game is coming to Steam very soon. It's not the one that you are thinking of though.

it's based of an H game and it's pretty much a PC port of a mobile game most likely using Blue Stack since you can use that to port mobile games to PC pretty easily and also add Steam features as well, there are already some games that do this.





Pretty interesting concept in theory. The article is worth reading.
Do we have Simon Carles as a user on MC? He does really good articles.
Doesn't EGS already do something like this with creator codes? I would imagine that most that use it do it for Fortnite but do they also use it for the other games on there? So in a way this would be similar to that part but the addition would also be that this way you have a place to go to know what is recommend by the person and stuff like that. How would Epic keys work (since the cut that the store is getting from epic to begin with is already small and this way it will be even smaller, or maybe this is where the 7% comes from? How big a cut does epic take again? Was it 22% or 18% or something? ) and im guessing that EA and Ubisoft may be not okay with this idea?
 
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Sweet, I got Sin Gold for just a couple bucks the other day on Steam, and now Blood: Fresh Supply is similarly cheap on Fanatical. All those announcements from the 3D Realms event gave me a bit of a retro shooter itch so the timing of those sales and Doom updates is just perfect.
 

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Didn't think I would get enough new games played to even get a GOTY list for this year, but here the one I have now! Granted still playing Wasteland 3 and loving it, don't think it will fall down the list.

1. Wasteland 3
2. Persona 4 Golden
3. Borderlands 3
4. Risk of Rain 2
5. Minecraft Dungeons
 

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But we always had that one-games audience. I would say in America it started with Madden (like the first one). In Japan Tokimeki Memorial. Over time it was Wii Sports, it was Wii Fit, it was & is Call of Duty, someone coined the term 'core' gamers, now it's Fortnite. That is the vast majority of the games industry now.
I think to some extent the "one-game-audience" idea goes even further than that, and can include games most people wouldn't call mainstream or casual. As one example, I'm pretty sure (only anecdotally of course, but still) that there are lots of people out there who basically only play Civilization. Not as many as CoD etc. of course, but that's a one-game or one-franchise audience in a "core" game that has potentially been around for decades.
 

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I think to some extent the "one-game-audience" idea goes even further than that, and can include games most people wouldn't call mainstream or casual. As one example, I'm pretty sure (only anecdotally of course, but still) that there are lots of people out there who basically only play Civilization. Not as many as CoD etc. of course, but that's a one-game or one-franchise audience in a "core" game that has potentially been around for decades.
Yep, and other clear audiences that are still niche is the sim racing community, the flight sim community.
 

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"Well, we're never aggressive towards our fans!" he said. "We treat them fairly and we're friendly. So of course not--we won't be aggressive--but you can expect great things to be bought. The goal is to design monetization in a way that makes people happy to spend money. I'm not trying to be cynical or hide something; it's about creating a feeling of value."
MP-only, so it doesn't bother me either way.
 

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Didn't think I would get enough new games played to even get a GOTY list for this year, but here the one I have now! Granted still playing Wasteland 3 and loving it, don't think it will fall down the list.

1. Wasteland 3
2. Persona 4 Golden
3. Borderlands 3
4. Risk of Rain 2
5. Minecraft Dungeons
I also started thinking about what will appear on my list by the end of the year and while I still don't know which position they are going to be those are the I liked the most this year:

  • Crusader Kings 3
  • Risk of Rain 2
  • Inmost
  • Fall Guys
  • Streets of Rage 4
There are also games that I enjoyed but I still did not managed to finish because of whatever reason:
  • Persona 4 Golden
  • In Other Waters
  • Outer Wilds
  • Felix the Reaper
  • STATIONflow
  • Plebby Quest: The Crusades
And in the list of "This game is installed and I should play it" are currently:
  • Dépanneur Nocturne
  • Umurangi Generation

Hopefully I'll manage to finish more games released in 2020 by the end of the year.

If anything, SEGA's Model 3 arcade games were ahead of their time, and I was blown away by Virtua Fighter 3 which was made in 1996!

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The Dodge Viper remains my favourite vehicle to this day....shame it is a 2 door car though :S
I wish SEGA could release a collection of these old arcade games it just make sense, but SEGA gonna SEGA.


Nice!
 

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I haven't really thought about GOTY yet, but I can't imagine anything I'd hold higher than Half-Life: Alyx. We'll see how Cyberpunk 2077 turns out.

I've been playing a lot of Crusader Kings III these past few days though. It's great.
 

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Yep, and other clear audiences that are still niche is the sim racing community, the flight sim community.
Over here i'd say there's a huge number of people who only play PES/FIFA but for a "Niche" genre and stretching back to the old days Championship Manager/Football Manager instantly spring to mind. I suppose you could put the Out of the Park (OotP) Baseball Management franchise in there too.
 
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