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Boneworks - Rift S 1.5h impressions:
Graphics are nice, everything is detailed, text is sharp, no stutters (so far).
I think the controllers are showing their flaws though. You need to hit really fast in melee combat and there is a small delay between your swings and what you see on screen. It's not bad, and not noticeable when moving around or touching objects. Just during fast swings. But I'm also doing martial arts, so maybe that's the problem? I don't know, not bragging here just trying to give my impressions. I'm also having problems to learn the correct distance that I need to keep from my enemies. It's different in real life, I don't know.
Having to swing fast to do damage is also the biggest problem. I'm afraid to hit something... I wish they'd tune it down a bit.
Locomotion works great for me (free movement + 45° turning). No mayor problems and I'm a 3 weeks VR noob.
Guns feel awesome.
Interactivity is very impressive. This is a love letter to VR, so far.
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And Boneworks is the number one top seller on steam.
Graphics are nice, everything is detailed, text is sharp, no stutters (so far).
I think the controllers are showing their flaws though. You need to hit really fast in melee combat and there is a small delay between your swings and what you see on screen. It's not bad, and not noticeable when moving around or touching objects. Just during fast swings. But I'm also doing martial arts, so maybe that's the problem? I don't know, not bragging here just trying to give my impressions. I'm also having problems to learn the correct distance that I need to keep from my enemies. It's different in real life, I don't know.
Having to swing fast to do damage is also the biggest problem. I'm afraid to hit something... I wish they'd tune it down a bit.
Locomotion works great for me (free movement + 45° turning). No mayor problems and I'm a 3 weeks VR noob.
Guns feel awesome.
Interactivity is very impressive. This is a love letter to VR, so far.
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And Boneworks is the number one top seller on steam.
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I played around two hours myself, still in the tutorial phase. The physics stuff can be unintuitive and janky just as much as they can be cool and exciting.
On Oculus Touch they could have made the neutral hand pose more natural. I'm not sure if the grip trigger on Touch is touch sensitive but they don't detect anything unless you start pressing it so your middle, ring and pinky finger are all open and flat, but they do touch-detect the index trigger so your inder finger is naturally bent quite a bit, and then they also detect if the thumb is up or not, so the neutral pose is just way off when you aren't doing anything. I don't think anybody ever has his fingers flat out when not doing the robot dance or similar so it's really awkward that's the default state regardless of the controller used.
But it's just a visual thing, when it comes to interacting with stuff it works as intended.
Climbing surfaces aren't as convenient as in games that aren’t fully physics driven with just preset intuitive climbing spots (it's not fully freeform in Boneworks either mind, you only properly latch onto specific surfaces like pipes, ladders and other such things). The climbable flat wall surface in particular was annoying as my "back" hand kept going all over the place by, I guess, getting stuck between the physical surface and my physical body as I just tried to move sideways.
Melee weapons aren't as intuitive as in Blade & Sorcery where you have all the same freedom (and many of the same restrictions as they can't go through other physical objects, your hands, body and other weapons etc.) in how you hold and handle and change your grip and throw them and so on. It works well enough, though it also has an annoying wobble for heavier weapons like the mallet, it's a tad overdone.
Firearms handling works well but again something like Onward does it more conveniently, it's snappier yet still realistic with many of the same interactions, from the different grip positions to the offhand steadying and reloading. For example you can take out the magazine of a pistol without pressing an eject button so I kept accidentally grabbing it while trying to grip and steady the pistol (you need to grip it properly, not just steady your one hand on top of the other).
Thankfully I can hold all the rifles and such as I wish, I didn't notice any physical shoulder/stock interaction that would stop me from bringing them too close depending on object/arm length or anything. The physics seem to only come into play when you try to do unnatural moves just to see that you can't, which other games let you do. It's basically just visual and I don't feel it adds anything over games that don't have it, when I play Onward I don't intentionally try to break the animations, I hold the weapons properly just as I do in Boneworks because that's just how weapon handling is natural and efficient.
When holding a long object like a broom with two hands apart however it seemed to restrict certain moves it shouldn't, I was just trying to wave it around and go all ninja and stuff to check out the inverse kinematics but it didn't follow my movements for much of it, as if it thought it would break my arm limits when it shouldn't. The problems of not having full arm/body tracking I suppose but I'm sure it can be improved.
Finally, the way almost every object is fully physics driven leads to more unintended interactions. When you open the drawers of a file cabinet it's almost impossible to not shift the whole cabinet around, the same when opening a cupboard, and basically any other thing. It seems like they should increase the weight of some objects so that you only move them when you persist and intend to do that. not at the slightest touch at the wrong angle. The same for things like tables almost flying off when you just accidentally slightly bump into them.
Basically it seems like a solid jack of all trades but other games have done this or that better (yet not all at once) so they could have taken a look at them to implement things similarly. Maybe it's ambitious to use physics for almost everything as they do but it doesn't necessarily add much to every aspect of it.
I do like the feel of the game so far, I'm not trying to make it sound like it's bad, but I did expect better behavior in some things (and feared worse in others so that’s good). Outside all these minor annoyances and given single player campaigns like this aren't exactly common, it's very exciting as it seems very well designed and very promising overall on that front. I'm sure I'll learn to work around its quirks with practice or maybe just not even care after a given point in the game (ie, bumping into tables felt off at first but maybe I just won't care after doing it x1000).
Again, this seems very good but it's also not the second coming of VR like others proclaim, the first killer app and all that hype. It's another good game, maybe a great one, in a long line of other equally cool VR experiences. I played Stormland again while downloading the game and that still seems pretty damn cool in terms of core gameplay (yeah it's short, repetitive and only does one thing, all out shooting without any deeper interactions, I've criticised that game elsewhere, I just mean the feel of the game, the climbing, the gliding, the weapon handling, it all feels great and exciting still), not like it's suddenly last gen crude stuff, and the same goes for other games like Blade & Sorcery, Onward and whatever else I've enjoyed in the past, there are many others.
Also for me the game keeps hanging on level switching.
Thankfully it also seems to save before that so I can close it, open it, choose continue and select the section it should have loaded when it hanged.
On Oculus Touch they could have made the neutral hand pose more natural. I'm not sure if the grip trigger on Touch is touch sensitive but they don't detect anything unless you start pressing it so your middle, ring and pinky finger are all open and flat, but they do touch-detect the index trigger so your inder finger is naturally bent quite a bit, and then they also detect if the thumb is up or not, so the neutral pose is just way off when you aren't doing anything. I don't think anybody ever has his fingers flat out when not doing the robot dance or similar so it's really awkward that's the default state regardless of the controller used.
But it's just a visual thing, when it comes to interacting with stuff it works as intended.
Climbing surfaces aren't as convenient as in games that aren’t fully physics driven with just preset intuitive climbing spots (it's not fully freeform in Boneworks either mind, you only properly latch onto specific surfaces like pipes, ladders and other such things). The climbable flat wall surface in particular was annoying as my "back" hand kept going all over the place by, I guess, getting stuck between the physical surface and my physical body as I just tried to move sideways.
Melee weapons aren't as intuitive as in Blade & Sorcery where you have all the same freedom (and many of the same restrictions as they can't go through other physical objects, your hands, body and other weapons etc.) in how you hold and handle and change your grip and throw them and so on. It works well enough, though it also has an annoying wobble for heavier weapons like the mallet, it's a tad overdone.
Firearms handling works well but again something like Onward does it more conveniently, it's snappier yet still realistic with many of the same interactions, from the different grip positions to the offhand steadying and reloading. For example you can take out the magazine of a pistol without pressing an eject button so I kept accidentally grabbing it while trying to grip and steady the pistol (you need to grip it properly, not just steady your one hand on top of the other).
Thankfully I can hold all the rifles and such as I wish, I didn't notice any physical shoulder/stock interaction that would stop me from bringing them too close depending on object/arm length or anything. The physics seem to only come into play when you try to do unnatural moves just to see that you can't, which other games let you do. It's basically just visual and I don't feel it adds anything over games that don't have it, when I play Onward I don't intentionally try to break the animations, I hold the weapons properly just as I do in Boneworks because that's just how weapon handling is natural and efficient.
When holding a long object like a broom with two hands apart however it seemed to restrict certain moves it shouldn't, I was just trying to wave it around and go all ninja and stuff to check out the inverse kinematics but it didn't follow my movements for much of it, as if it thought it would break my arm limits when it shouldn't. The problems of not having full arm/body tracking I suppose but I'm sure it can be improved.
Finally, the way almost every object is fully physics driven leads to more unintended interactions. When you open the drawers of a file cabinet it's almost impossible to not shift the whole cabinet around, the same when opening a cupboard, and basically any other thing. It seems like they should increase the weight of some objects so that you only move them when you persist and intend to do that. not at the slightest touch at the wrong angle. The same for things like tables almost flying off when you just accidentally slightly bump into them.
Basically it seems like a solid jack of all trades but other games have done this or that better (yet not all at once) so they could have taken a look at them to implement things similarly. Maybe it's ambitious to use physics for almost everything as they do but it doesn't necessarily add much to every aspect of it.
I do like the feel of the game so far, I'm not trying to make it sound like it's bad, but I did expect better behavior in some things (and feared worse in others so that’s good). Outside all these minor annoyances and given single player campaigns like this aren't exactly common, it's very exciting as it seems very well designed and very promising overall on that front. I'm sure I'll learn to work around its quirks with practice or maybe just not even care after a given point in the game (ie, bumping into tables felt off at first but maybe I just won't care after doing it x1000).
Again, this seems very good but it's also not the second coming of VR like others proclaim, the first killer app and all that hype. It's another good game, maybe a great one, in a long line of other equally cool VR experiences. I played Stormland again while downloading the game and that still seems pretty damn cool in terms of core gameplay (yeah it's short, repetitive and only does one thing, all out shooting without any deeper interactions, I've criticised that game elsewhere, I just mean the feel of the game, the climbing, the gliding, the weapon handling, it all feels great and exciting still), not like it's suddenly last gen crude stuff, and the same goes for other games like Blade & Sorcery, Onward and whatever else I've enjoyed in the past, there are many others.
Also for me the game keeps hanging on level switching.
Thankfully it also seems to save before that so I can close it, open it, choose continue and select the section it should have loaded when it hanged.
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I am trying to learn to drive cars relatively late in life (born 1985), so I have of course turned to simulation exercises on my PC (equipped with the Index and a G29 steering wheel with pedals + shifter gear lever). City Car Driving has a pretty realistic simulation of driving with a manual gearbox + clutch, but the virtual reality experience is very barebones. You are able to look around and the turning of the steering wheel is animated, but all other aspects of the dashboard are unreactive and its gauges are turned off.
Are there any realistic driving simulators out there that work in VR and animate the dashboard, the position of the steering wheel, the gear lever, and the pedals to give an immersive experience?
Are there any realistic driving simulators out there that work in VR and animate the dashboard, the position of the steering wheel, the gear lever, and the pedals to give an immersive experience?
Dunno about real sims, sorry. Maybe DiRT Rally can be used for some things but it's clearly a racing game, you don't wanna use it as a learning tool.
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'Boneworks' Review – A Rich Sandbox with a Side of Game Design
Boneworks, the highly anticipated physics-driven VR shooter from veteran VR studio Stress Level Zero, is finally here. The game is underscored with a rich, physics-based interaction system which aims to make VR more interactive and immersive.
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Also they've already pushed out a patch mostly to help with WMR user issues so that's nice.
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Fair review and this seems to be accurate enough as a "conclusion":
Giving the player a mass and a body doesn't seem to be the way. I really think floating hands would have been better here, sounds strange because full body works great in lone echo, but the body is "weightless" and doesn't interfere. Here it is more of a nuisance.
But the ability to interact with everything in the game world, open doors, touch walls, touch enemies, tear off wood panels and a solid physics system is something that needs to be in imo. Like I can hold doors closed and shoot through small cracks, but I can't reload while doing so. It is interesting, to say the least.
But melee combat is bad and I like it less the more I play tbh.
About the game not having many weapons, the story not being great (did we even expect better?) and not everything being super polished. It's a 25€ game, made buy 10 people and maybe they were to ambitious and expectations too big.
I don't know, I'm having more fun with Boneworks than with Robot Recall or Raw Data so far. Fun games, but they turn monotonous real quick and this is already more interesting.
Giving the player a mass and a body doesn't seem to be the way. I really think floating hands would have been better here, sounds strange because full body works great in lone echo, but the body is "weightless" and doesn't interfere. Here it is more of a nuisance.
But the ability to interact with everything in the game world, open doors, touch walls, touch enemies, tear off wood panels and a solid physics system is something that needs to be in imo. Like I can hold doors closed and shoot through small cracks, but I can't reload while doing so. It is interesting, to say the least.
But melee combat is bad and I like it less the more I play tbh.
About the game not having many weapons, the story not being great (did we even expect better?) and not everything being super polished. It's a 25€ game, made buy 10 people and maybe they were to ambitious and expectations too big.
I don't know, I'm having more fun with Boneworks than with Robot Recall or Raw Data so far. Fun games, but they turn monotonous real quick and this is already more interesting.
Well, I did say Raw Data is a wave/arena type shooter even if possibly the best of the bunch, not exactly much variety in that scheme, sorry if that misled you. I never suggest Robo Recall outside a sale though, it was good for what it is too but also just an arcade shooter, plus I got it for free when registering my Touch.
But again my problems in Boneworks are with the systems and how often they get in the way of both fun and immersion when they're actually meant to do the opposite. I thought the campaign is promising before reading that Road to VR review so hopefully I will like it better than the reviewer but it does sound legit.
The game was always pimped as more than an arena sandbox though, otherwise I'd be making even more comparisons to the far more intuitive even if limited to medieval combat Blade & Sorcery (though there are plenty mods for it that add many more things such as firearms for example if you want to mess around). I don't think anyone expected a story, but nice campaigns don't need much of that, Half-Life barely had any and I liked it more than 2 which had more of it.
But again my problems in Boneworks are with the systems and how often they get in the way of both fun and immersion when they're actually meant to do the opposite. I thought the campaign is promising before reading that Road to VR review so hopefully I will like it better than the reviewer but it does sound legit.
The game was always pimped as more than an arena sandbox though, otherwise I'd be making even more comparisons to the far more intuitive even if limited to medieval combat Blade & Sorcery (though there are plenty mods for it that add many more things such as firearms for example if you want to mess around). I don't think anyone expected a story, but nice campaigns don't need much of that, Half-Life barely had any and I liked it more than 2 which had more of it.
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I love Boneworks. Great physics and fucking around is exactly what I wanted from it and I think that's what the majority of people wanted too. Having a somewhat long campaign what just a bonus for me.
People looking for a great story with great level design will surely be somewhat dissapointed, but that's not what I cared for in Boneworks.
People looking for a great story with great level design will surely be somewhat dissapointed, but that's not what I cared for in Boneworks.
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I haven't played Boneworks yet, but from what I read (and tons of time invested in Raw Data) they seem to be on rather opposite ends of the spectrum.
Raw Data is more, to me, the equivalent of an arcade game built from the ground up for VR, where just like an arcade game the focus is on improving your skill at playing the game using a limited but polished set of interaction mechanisms to solve a limit but polished set of (mostly combat, but some movement) challenges.
Boneworks is the equivalent of a sandbox game built from the ground up for VR. Just like with a non-VR sandbox game, it gives you a huge amount of (emergent) options to solve a huge amount of (emergent) gameplay challenges. And as an almost unavoidable result (again, just like with traditional sandbox games) each individual interaction might not be as polished as in a more focused game.
I think these are, to some extent, different design philosophies, and even if two games each succeed very well at their respective philosophy, tradeoffs are inevitable.
Attacking or criticizing you was neither my intention nor did I even had you in mind while typing tbh. My apologies if you felt that way.
Raw Data and Robot Recall are solid, arcade experiences and I'd still recommend both of them to train "VR legs" and get a feel for shooting in VR. Just as you said, not at full price. But independent of you or me recommending them, they are rather simplistic in game design. That's just how it is and nobody promised me something else.
But long term I want more than messing around in arenas or sandboxes and I think VR needs to start moving out of this corner sooner then later. Boneworks tries that and deserves a bit more credit because of it imo.
Well it's not like it's the first game with a campaign either, you've played others yourself and there are tons more that don't get too much hype because they just weren't too special when all was said and done (ie, the fairly solid Westworld Awakening) but in the end Boneworks maybe isn't the 2nd coming it was hyped to be either. Probably the first that tries to incorporate all these elements at once though (which may not have been the best idea either, ie, why have all those Blade & Sorcery-like physics for melee combat when the game itself doesn't present adversaries that utilize it as in that game but is mostly an FPS). I don't really care for the price too much. It's nice when stuff are cheap but I always get a game because it's cool/interesting/whatever else first, not cheap.
Edit: well, I'm too negative preemptively, again, maybe I'll like it more than that guy, though I already agree with (and have more of) his systems criticism. It reminds me of Holoception, that looked cool when a developer showed it off as well, but upon release I had many of the same issues, physics over playability. But at least that one is in early access and is constantly improving since, I think they'll hopefully get to a very good level once it's all done.
Edit: well, I'm too negative preemptively, again, maybe I'll like it more than that guy, though I already agree with (and have more of) his systems criticism. It reminds me of Holoception, that looked cool when a developer showed it off as well, but upon release I had many of the same issues, physics over playability. But at least that one is in early access and is constantly improving since, I think they'll hopefully get to a very good level once it's all done.
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From the sounds of it, Boneworks might be the action game I hoped Stormland was going to be. Obviously they are very different games, but Stormland just feels so lifeless, has bullet sponge enemies and a super boring quest/progression structure. Whereas Boneworks feels like a really immersive title that you'll be thinking about when you're not playing it.
It's possible, personally I played Stormland again while waiting for Boneworks to finish downloading last night and it was more fun than that was afterwards. I criticized all the issues I had with Stormland here, but still, it's provided more fun than most VR games for me. I don't think any enemies were too bullet spongy, even the (too rare!) big baddies, were you upgrading and using your specials? I'm on post-game escalation level 1 and they still go down satisfyingly before even getting level 5 guns. A few quick short range shotgun blasts after overheating or stunning the big ones is enough to bring them down. The rifles (sniper or otherwise) make short work of the normal enemies with well placed headshots. Etc. I dunno, if anything I thought enemies were too easy to put down at times.
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The funny thing is: I'm not even immersed in Boneworks unlike in Lone Echo for example. I'm fully aware that I'm in a game in both of them, but I feel like an actor in Lone Echo and like playing a normal game in Boneworks. But that's also in part because of Boneworks art design.
And do not get me wrong: Lone Echo is the better game, no doubts.
But as you said: Boneworks is fusing a lot of things that belong together like bread and butter. Good Combat needs good level design. Good level design needs a campaign that holds everything together. A Campaign needs a story to make sense and last but not least VR needs a "physical" game world.
And I'm not saying that Boneworks has good level design or a good story. But it is mixing all those elements that need to be present in an action VR game.
Lone Echo does the same. "physical" world, levels, puzzles, story, a campaign. It has no combat, but it's also not an action game.
I'm also not saying that everything needs to be like that. But I recently looked at Blade&Sorcery and it seems to be a well done melee combat game, where you fight stuff in an arena and all I thought was: Couldn't this be more like Arx Fatalis, at least like Stonekeep where I'm exploring a dungeon with several levels, traps and co.?
And inb4: I'm not "shit talking" Blade & Sorcery, I'm certain it's great. I also understand the problem of game development being expansive, the risk being high, the target audience small etc. But that's one of the reasons why I appreciate a 25€ game, made by 10 people that tries to be more than cool physics in an arena. Maybe I'm too forgiving, I don't know. But I'm also surprised about all the harsh reactions the game is getting tbh.
And do not get me wrong: Lone Echo is the better game, no doubts.
But as you said: Boneworks is fusing a lot of things that belong together like bread and butter. Good Combat needs good level design. Good level design needs a campaign that holds everything together. A Campaign needs a story to make sense and last but not least VR needs a "physical" game world.
And I'm not saying that Boneworks has good level design or a good story. But it is mixing all those elements that need to be present in an action VR game.
Lone Echo does the same. "physical" world, levels, puzzles, story, a campaign. It has no combat, but it's also not an action game.
I'm also not saying that everything needs to be like that. But I recently looked at Blade&Sorcery and it seems to be a well done melee combat game, where you fight stuff in an arena and all I thought was: Couldn't this be more like Arx Fatalis, at least like Stonekeep where I'm exploring a dungeon with several levels, traps and co.?
And inb4: I'm not "shit talking" Blade & Sorcery, I'm certain it's great. I also understand the problem of game development being expansive, the risk being high, the target audience small etc. But that's one of the reasons why I appreciate a 25€ game, made by 10 people that tries to be more than cool physics in an arena. Maybe I'm too forgiving, I don't know. But I'm also surprised about all the harsh reactions the game is getting tbh.
Well I mostly mentioned Blade & Sorcery because fantomena was talking about how he felt the game was more about the sandbox messing around aspects and agreed with complaints about the campaign and level design and all that stuff. Obviously it's not really an alternative to all of what Boneworks tries to do.
I don't see harsh reactions, most people seem to love it, Road to VR's review was the first I saw with such criticism that agreed with some of my issues with it.
86% positive on Steam so far.
And yes a full length anything kind of game with Blade & Sorcery's combat would be rad, my first reaction was to wish the guy marries In Death's developer to at least get a roguelite sequel for both in one, maybe it wouldn't be a sweet hand-designed campaign but it would essentially make it a roguelite VR Souls, lol. It just sucks that a game now does try to provide more but it's like the developers didn't play all these other games that do this or that better to get ideas. Just like I criticize something like Asgard's Wrath for the same reason as with it being a fantasy RPG it really should have looked at how Blade & Sorcery does its combat and other games for ideas too, then we could have had something closer to your vision of an Arx Fatalis with Blade & Sorcery's systems.
I don't see harsh reactions, most people seem to love it, Road to VR's review was the first I saw with such criticism that agreed with some of my issues with it.
86% positive on Steam so far.
And yes a full length anything kind of game with Blade & Sorcery's combat would be rad, my first reaction was to wish the guy marries In Death's developer to at least get a roguelite sequel for both in one, maybe it wouldn't be a sweet hand-designed campaign but it would essentially make it a roguelite VR Souls, lol. It just sucks that a game now does try to provide more but it's like the developers didn't play all these other games that do this or that better to get ideas. Just like I criticize something like Asgard's Wrath for the same reason as with it being a fantasy RPG it really should have looked at how Blade & Sorcery does its combat and other games for ideas too, then we could have had something closer to your vision of an Arx Fatalis with Blade & Sorcery's systems.
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I'm not saying you shit talked anything, just talking about stuff, not so serious...
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Steam :: Into the Radius VR :: Into the Radius - Tutorial 1
This tutorial is an introduction to using firearms in the game and how to utilize the wrist menu.
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‘Path of the Warrior’ Packs a Punch on Oculus Quest and the Rift Platform
Exciting news for fans of arcade action and over-the-top antics: Twisted Pixel Games has teamed up with Oculus Studios to create Path of the Warrior—an old-school beat ’em up with classic brawler moves reimagined for VR. And they just announced a surprise release for Oculus Quest and the Rift...
www.oculus.com
‘Beat Saber’ Adds Green Day Music Pack + New 360° and 90° Levels Coming to All Platforms
Green Day just took the stage at The Game Awards and revealed a brand-new set of tracks available later tonight in Beat Saber! Featuring classic fan favorites and the band’s latest chart-toppers, the Green Day Music Pack ushers in a new era for everyone’s favorite beat slashing VR rhythm game...
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Sorry to the recent buyers of these I guess.
Also missed posting about this trippy thing (I think).
Steam :: AcidPunk : Echoes of Doll City :: Fall 2019 update now available!
New gameplay mechanics and levels to immerse you in the darkest corners of Doll City
And Quest keeps buzzing. I'm more surprised by Apex Construct given how much later Quest came, I guess mixed reviews sadly put a damper on it on Steam.
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Budget Cuts 2 releasing on VGA day was a mistake I guess. Only 11 user reviews so far on Steam and 8 on the Oculus Store (normally Steam reviews should be far more numerous by a wide margin, except for the Oculus Quest versions of certain games that trash Steam). I hope it picks up attention/pace next week 
This looks good too.
The non VR version has good reviews so it's promising but even though it says it supports the tracked motion controllers for VR the trailer doesn't show any hand interactions so it could be a pretty barebones VR version with basically just button inputs and head tracking implemented which would be a bummer.
OhShape got out of early access too.
This looks good too.
The non VR version has good reviews so it's promising but even though it says it supports the tracked motion controllers for VR the trailer doesn't show any hand interactions so it could be a pretty barebones VR version with basically just button inputs and head tracking implemented which would be a bummer.
OhShape got out of early access too.
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Kinda wish they would at least offer a discount for people who already own the non-VR version. My thoughts on the original:
Not a great game but good enough for a rainy Sunday afternoon. It looks good and is pretty straight forward in regards to puzzles. The audio logs play an integral part in telling the story and are thankfully easy to find. Speaking of the story: I liked it well enough even though some might argue that it's a bit generic and the twist is kinda obvious. Picking up notes to read them didn't always work as intended, so you had to use your zoom.
It's definitely not worth the full 15€ but if you enjoy space and sci-fi stuff and see it on sale for <5€, go for it.
It's definitely not worth the full 15€ but if you enjoy space and sci-fi stuff and see it on sale for <5€, go for it.
Nice Vengeful Rites dev update yet again. This guy's doing wonderful work, game's already pretty damn fun and keeps getting better. You can tell how intuitive his systems are by just watching him play. Note that's obviously a testing area, not part of the game.
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I've only stopped playing it to jump back in when it stabilizes quality/feature wise so that I don't feel I got through parts of it in a less than ideal way and stuff.
Steam :: Vengeful Rites :: Ultimate Perks and a new difficulty setting! (Devlog inside)
Unlock your true combat potential and test your mettle against improved AI on the difficulty setting of your choice!
I've only stopped playing it to jump back in when it stabilizes quality/feature wise so that I don't feel I got through parts of it in a less than ideal way and stuff.
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Finished Budget Cuts and have mixed feelings about it.
Killing robots (or avoiding them) is fun - at first. You basically just have throwing knives and scissors which gets a bit boring and when you kill a robot for the 20th time by sneaking up to him and ramming a knife in its head, it just isn't as satisfying as the first time. I also had some problems with the throwing itself and ended up using them in close combat. Just wished there were more weapons, especially a solid ranged option. The sequel seems to have added more weapon variety at least.
The game doesn't offer any locomotive movement options, just teleporting. But the teleporting is quite well done and definitely adds to the game experience. And it makes being stealthy easier.
Now to the part which I liked the least: the puzzles. The game doesn't give you a lot of help and sometimes you just get stuck because it's not clear what is required to proceed. I never fully knew what I was expected to do and most of the time just got lucky. But sometimes even knowing what the game does expect of you won't help because you may have missed a small detail and are stuck. Admittedly, this just happened once and I solved it by looking it up because I was 100% sure I had a game-breaking bug right before the end of the game...
Overall, I still recommend the game even though it has some annoying parts since I've still enjoyed my time with it for the most part. I bought it on sale, though. Not sure if I'd still recommend it without a discount.
Killing robots (or avoiding them) is fun - at first. You basically just have throwing knives and scissors which gets a bit boring and when you kill a robot for the 20th time by sneaking up to him and ramming a knife in its head, it just isn't as satisfying as the first time. I also had some problems with the throwing itself and ended up using them in close combat. Just wished there were more weapons, especially a solid ranged option. The sequel seems to have added more weapon variety at least.
The game doesn't offer any locomotive movement options, just teleporting. But the teleporting is quite well done and definitely adds to the game experience. And it makes being stealthy easier.
Now to the part which I liked the least: the puzzles. The game doesn't give you a lot of help and sometimes you just get stuck because it's not clear what is required to proceed. I never fully knew what I was expected to do and most of the time just got lucky. But sometimes even knowing what the game does expect of you won't help because you may have missed a small detail and are stuck. Admittedly, this just happened once and I solved it by looking it up because I was 100% sure I had a game-breaking bug right before the end of the game...
Overall, I still recommend the game even though it has some annoying parts since I've still enjoyed my time with it for the most part. I bought it on sale, though. Not sure if I'd still recommend it without a discount.
January 23 2020 if that wasn't already said before. Also PSVR version Q1 20 and Quest version Q4 20.
Good lord, terrible trailer framerate, watch previous media like Node's play session for a better representation (well, hopefully accurate too).
Preorder price up on Steam as well, nice.
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Good lord, terrible trailer framerate, watch previous media like Node's play session for a better representation (well, hopefully accurate too).
Preorder price up on Steam as well, nice.
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Trailer finally up on youtube for the lazy
It's out. Please be good.
Edit: it controls clunky but the rest of it seems promising. Hopefully he'll get the proper feedback and modernize the controls asap, currently they feel like old school vive-first-VR-game with the toggle grab on the index trigger on Touch and weird rotation settings with no option for movement to be HMD oriented etc.
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i gotta say, Alextended - i love your dedication to this thread ... thanks so much for keeping it updated (even thought not many people seem to post here right now)
much appreciated!
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It's always confusing when companies release trailers with really obvious framerate issues (both in VR and without VR). I mean, you're trying to show off your game, can't you get it to run at consistent framerate in controlled conditions on a development system at least?
This released, looks kinda fun.
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Steam :: Winter Fury: The Longest Road :: Winter Fury: The Longest Road 1.0.0
Winter Fury: The Longest Road now has 6 arcade missions along with a brand new Tank Commander Mode where you battle through randomized stages of increasingly difficult enemies.
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Dang. Well, it confirms it's all good with all main decent/good/great/awesome PC VR sets so that's great
Free locomotion at 7m38s and various other points past that, guess they got it working just after the VGAs
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‘The Under Presents’ Adds New Features and Launches on the Rift Platform
Called “a novel exploration of VR and live immersive theatre” by Forbes, The Under Presents submerges players in an absurdist fever dream complete with ritual magic, crab-like creatures, and the unruly nature of time itself. It’s been delighting people since its preview at Sundance and its...
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I guess this means the early access The SoulKeeper VR is dead (as it seemed). They do give this to owners of that (bought before January 10) so that's good though it doesn't seem wise to then develop two games in one as they make the non VR version third person with different systems. But it sure looks promising!
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Lots of VR games on the winter sale, my twitter feed is full of devs announcing they're also part of it.
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Facebook is building an operating system so it can ditch Android | TechCrunch
Facebook doesn't want its hardware like Oculus or its augmented reality glasses to be at the mercy of Google because they rely on its Android operating
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It's great to see the investment into AR/VR from Facebook, but I don't want to use an OS made by them.
Do you actually have access to the OS on Quest or just get to use the home/dash and do everything through it and only what it allows anyway?
Seems like they want something tailored to their devices instead of the all purpose Android, maybe they can get more performance like Switch.
Hopefully that doesn't mean Quest 2 has less to offer to the homebrew community because damn would it suck if they can't port Lambda1VR...
Holoception has a demo now.
And this released. I don't usually post about all the random cheap/free stuff but this has some nice reviews already.
Seems like they want something tailored to their devices instead of the all purpose Android, maybe they can get more performance like Switch.
Hopefully that doesn't mean Quest 2 has less to offer to the homebrew community because damn would it suck if they can't port Lambda1VR...
Holoception has a demo now.
And this released. I don't usually post about all the random cheap/free stuff but this has some nice reviews already.
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I bought Westworld Awakening recently and played the first two chapters.
It's very solid. High production values, and of course many of the storytelling beats fit well with a VR presentation. It defaults to arm-swinging movement, and for what's mostly an adventure game where you don't often need to do multiple things at the same time that works surprisingly well. I stuck with it (despite other options being available).
On the technical side, it's nice to see Survios use a renderer with MSAA support. Geometry quality is really great. Sadly they don't seem to have anything in place to effectively deal with specular geometry aliasing (but then, almost no one does, even though Valve had a 1-hour talk about it 3 years ago).
It's very solid. High production values, and of course many of the storytelling beats fit well with a VR presentation. It defaults to arm-swinging movement, and for what's mostly an adventure game where you don't often need to do multiple things at the same time that works surprisingly well. I stuck with it (despite other options being available).
On the technical side, it's nice to see Survios use a renderer with MSAA support. Geometry quality is really great. Sadly they don't seem to have anything in place to effectively deal with specular geometry aliasing (but then, almost no one does, even though Valve had a 1-hour talk about it 3 years ago).
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Also this released but it doesn't look like my kind of thing. We'll see if that concept has merit by the first user reviews perhaps.
I had not seen this before but it looks like a very promising little project:
Older media can be seen on their YouTube channel:
Really polished presentation, especially in world design, though combat looks a bit too waggly still.
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Some more small updates, not much for #screenshotsaturday this week, maybe winter sales stealing all attention. Can't wait for the Playhouse trailer though.
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It did help. I've eyed a few games I might be picking up. Thanks.