|OT| The PC Hardware Thread -- Buy/Upgrade/Ask/Answer

EdwardTivrusky

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Yeah, i check maybe once a month just for laughs. I did ponder taking an RTX 3090 if they became available but yeah, there's even less chance of them turning up, lol.

I'm kinda resigned to not being able to get a Switch Pro either, well, not in any reasonable timeframe after launch anyway.
 

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Going to be interesting to follow how the market moves with these new cards.

I've given up upgrading so now I'm just following. :surrenderblob:
Yeah, I[m starting to think I'll have to give up my goal of a 6800 for a while, probably by the time the 7X00 is out.
 

Dinjoralo

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I am 100% gonna be waiting outside of that Best Buy for however long I can. Prolly gonna be there 1:30 AM, based on travel time. Anyone got suggestions for what I should bring with me?

Currently I'm planning to bring some Soylent with caffeine for sustenance, battery pack and laptop to power my phone, and a pack of tissues in the event my nosebleed problem rears its head. Oh, and water obvs. Never really done this before.
 
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Dinjoralo

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... Thinking about it, that's probably not gonna work. Apparently the lines fill up over 24 hours before the tickets are handed out. Ugh.
 
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Parsnip

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Weren't there a lot of rumors about Samsung's yields being super bad on these, I wonder if there were any truth to those and if so, I wonder if that has improved any.
 

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My SteelSeries Rival 100's middle click started acting up recently. I thought it's a Firefox bug, I usually use my middle click to close tabs and it kept randomly closing two. It seems that if I press the middle button, especially while also moving the cursor around, it registers a double click instead causing that. But it didn't really do anything outside my browser so I didn't notice it until I tested it deliberately. For now I'm bypassing it with setting the middle button in the SteelSeries software to instead of play once, to play N times set to 123ms repeat of 1, which seems to work out so far without usability issues.

The mouse lasted pretty good, I got it just over 5 years ago and it was the cheapest SteelSeries mouse at the time. I liked it because it was like older Logitech mice, no frills with the two thumb buttons I wanted and no weird designs or anything, just the optional RGB lighting on the wheel and logo on its butt. If more buttons degrade and it becomes a problem I'll probably go for another by SteelSeries, again whatever is the cheapest (currently the Rival 3).
 
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Weren't there a lot of rumors about Samsung's yields being super bad on these, I wonder if there were any truth to those and if so, I wonder if that has improved any.
I don't think that was ever true. NVs financials show that they sold a metric shitton of 30-series GPUs -- it's just that in 2020 the (gaming) demand was so high that it didn't help (much), and then mining happened.
 
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My SteelSeries Rival 100's middle click started acting up recently. I thought it's a Firefox bug, I usually use my mdidle click to close tabs and it kept randomly closing two. It seems that if I press the middle button, especially while also moving the cursor around, it registers a double click instead causing that. But it didn't realy do anything outside my browser so I didn't notice it until I tested it deliberately. For now I'm bypassing it with setting the middle button in the SteelSeries software to instead of play once, to play N times set to 100ms repeat of 1, which seems to work out so far without usability issues.

The mouse lasted pretty good, I got it just over 5 years ago and it was the cheapest SteelSeries mouse at the time. I liked it because it was like older Logitech mice, no frills with the two thumb buttons I wanted and no weird designs or anything, just the optional RGB lighting on the wheel and logo on its butt. If more buttons degrade and it becomes a problem I'll probably go for another by SteelSeries, again whatever is the cheapest (currently the Rival 3).
Rival 3 is a good budget mouse. It's what I went with myself. The side buttons will take some getting used to because of their small size, but not a deal-breaker, to be honest. I posted in this thread a few months ago about having problems with the scroll wheel on my Kinzu V2 pro and wanted to replace it with something similar in size. Decided to go with the Rival 3 over the viper-mini. Felt pretty much like a natural upgrade.
 
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Thank you both, just ordered all my parts and I'll grab a Windows 10 Home license soon.

For anyone curious, here's what I went with:

Intel Core i5 11400 CPU
Asus ROG Strix B560-I Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LPX 1x8gb DDR4-3000 RAM (with scope to add another stick at a later date)
WD SN750 500gb m.2 SSD
Fractal Design Era Mini ITX Case (Cobalt Blue)
EVGA 500W Bronze PSU

This should be fine for light desktop use. If I find I'm streaming a lot of Civ VI from my living room gaming PC to this device I'll grab a cheap GPU (something like a GTX 1660 or the 3000-series equivalent if it ever releases) and an extra 8gb RAM so I can game locally, but this should be more than fine for using large documents in Scrivener/Word and doing some light image editing in Affinity Photo for a website I'm working on.
 

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C-Dub Take note that if you currently have a valid Win 10 BOX (not OEM) licence, you can transfer it to your new computer.
I just did a build where the only thing I brought over from the old one was GPU and non-boot HDDs and it still worked.
 
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Alextended

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The other day I wanted to see if there's been any news on a Ryzen 5700 release and found there exists a 5700G APU since a couple months ago but with next to no information outside the official spec sheets and what not, is that related at all to such a potential release or nah, it's a completely different tier of products? Like, would a 5700 be just that without the integrated graphics card or something else altogether? Ed: looks like Gamers Nexus posted a bench after I searched.
 

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So question for you all:
Are there any quality 65-75% keyboards that aren't mechanical that are still good for gaming? All the ones I've found in research are mechanical or full size/tkl. And of course those wasd-hand shaped boards, none of which are what I'm looking for.

I'm guessing this might be a losing battle?
 

EdwardTivrusky

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Wait, You actually WANT a membrane keyboard? Fetch me the salts, i've come over all light-headed!
I'm not sure because 65-75% isn't "normal" so there's no real margins in it for mainstream purchasers. I'd have a look at office supply places as they'll be the stores more likely to carry non-mechanical keyboards in a form-factor like that.

edit: i could go have a look about but i don't want to go back into the keyboard rabbit-hole just yet.
 

gabbo

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Wait, You actually WANT a membrane keyboard? Fetch me the salts, i've come over all light-headed!
I'm not sure because 65-75% isn't "normal" so there's no real margins in it for mainstream purchasers. I'd have a look at office supply places as they'll be the stores more likely to carry non-mechanical keyboards in a form-factor like that.

edit: i could go have a look about but i don't want to go back into the keyboard rabbit-hole just yet.
It's not for me, wife wants the the form-factor doesn't like the sound of mechanical switches. My experience tends to be with [cherry] brown switches, and she finds those too loud. I suppose something with cherry red or quieter equivalent would work, I just don't know the 65-75% market or switch market well
 

EdwardTivrusky

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It's not for me, wife wants the the form-factor doesn't like the sound of mechanical switches. My experience tends to be with [cherry] brown switches, and she finds those too loud. I suppose something with cherry red or quieter equivalent would work, I just don't know the 65-75% market or switch market well
Ahh, yeah. there's quieter switches and you can get soft o-rings that stop the clunk as they bottom out. I can't recall what switches are quiet as it's been a while since i had to check and there's new switch manufacturers out too that i know nothing about.
I had quick look about but search engines seem to love ignoring my keywords and searching for things they want to show me instead which is a pain.

edit: DOH! Cherry have a SILENT range of switches! I'm a muppet!

I know Topre and Matias have a good reputation for quiet switches and my old TKL Cooler Master Topre Hybrid is super quiet. Corsair have the K55 which is membrane but full size unfortunately. Microsoft, Trust, Perrixx all have cheapo membrane keyboards but again, fill-size unfortunately.
 

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Ahh, yeah. there's quieter switches and you can get soft o-rings that stop the clunk as they bottom out. I can't recall what switches are quiet as it's been a while since i had to check and there's new switch manufacturers out too that i know nothing about.
I had quick look about but search engines seem to love ignoring my keywords and searching for things they want to show me instead which is a pain.

edit: DOH! Cherry have a SILENT range of switches! I'm a muppet!

I know Topre and Matias have a good reputation for quiet switches and my old TKL Cooler Master Topre Hybrid is super quiet. Corsair have the K55 which is membrane but full size unfortunately. Microsoft, Trust, Perrixx all have cheapo membrane keyboards but again, fill-size unfortunately.
Thanks for the info, it's a good jumping off point :)