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This is interesting:
game-consultant.com
I wonder if Valve recently made the same decision to get EA back on board.
Epic Games Store implements in-game purchases for third-parties | Game-Consultant.com
Developers who use their own payment tools will not share revenue with Epic on in-game transactions. Developers and publishers can either use Epic-provided payment services or set up their own functionality. % Epic Games Store implements in-game purchases for third-parties game-news
game-consultant.com
I wonder if Valve recently made the same decision to get EA back on board.
Sad! Shame on Epic! I wish we had transparency for Steam as well, regarding drops of trading cards and common/uncommon/rare rarity of items obtained by crafting badges. Nobody wants to be transparent regarding these gambling mechanics, it seems. Too much money is at stake.
Edit:: Maybe I misread. Maybe Epic will be transparent for its games, but won't enforce transparency for the games sold on their store.
Well Epic has to be since Sony, Nintendo & Microsoft will require it .
The initial article is quite the take on the situation.I clicked on that Twitter link above and saw this.
"Epic did so good, so much damage, I can't prove any of this other than to say I played games on their store and RDR2 didn't launch as well on Steam as the last GTA, but I mean surely that's due to Epic right?. An EA and Microsoft clearly only jumped in with Valve because of Epic's revenue split giving them an upper hand."
Are we going to get more of this in 2020? People who cried from the rooftops about "competition in the PC digital distribution space" and "Valve is the baddie" try to justify their shitting takes from the year before?
Until we see concrete numbers from Epic's end, and I mean actual sales data not "it launched twice as good as our last title" nonsense, Epic might have spurned Valve to be more open with their user base, but it's impact has been minimal rather than a true market disruption.
And they still don't have a fucking cart? Really?
If you take a look at the other Tweets of the author of this article, it becomes clear that this guy is one of these "it's just another launcher" morons. He even claims the boycott against Steam doesn't exist and the majority of pc gamers bought RDR2 on EGS instead of Rockstar's own launcher.
It's just sad that his nonsense is being spread by other tech sites as well.
It's just sad that his nonsense is being spread by other tech sites as well.
i don't think that's gonna happen any time soon
pretty much the entire backend is STILL missing ... they still have to do pretty much everything manually (including uploading patches ... devs apparently can't do it themselves ... they have to send patches to epic, and then epic uploads the data themselves)
When did they say they'll open it to self publishing, that seems to go against everything I've heard them say regarding their quality curation and other such bs.
when they were doing interviews last year after it launched ... they said they'd open up to self-publishing next year (2020, that is)
i mean - they'll still be curating etc. ... but they'll just allow everyone to submit their stuff (as in: it won't have to be hand-picked by epic and moneyhatted) and then epic will decide whether to allow them in ... basically how every other store works (other than steam, that is)
well, i mean - i suppose they could open it up completely as well ... not like they haven't gone back on pretty much every other promise they made before
lol
I know this is purely anecdotical, but out of all the people that I know that bought RDR2, two of them just bought it on Steam and eeeveryone else bought it directly through Rockstar.
no surprises there
same with ubi games - the VAST majority of people bought them on udontplay ... not on egs
I cannot think of any way that Fortnite changed Nintendo.
Here the article
edition.cnn.com
tl;dr it's about microtransactions, not necessarily about Fortnite.
Also
How Fortnite changed Nintendo and GameStop forever
In the age of "Fortnite," video game companies have to make changes to the way they market and sell games.
edition.cnn.com
tl;dr it's about microtransactions, not necessarily about Fortnite.
Also
Since when WoW is f2p lol.
Yeah, it's not a great phrase. I believe Galyonkin used it but it's not like a Steam Direct kind of thing. More like submitting a game through an established process to get it approved or denied for the store, as opposed to things beind hand-picked as they are now.
Still no price for Ashen on Steam. If Annapurna charges the full €40 price for this 12 months old game, I'm gonna laugh out loud
I'm more interested in the external key market. Very few games on Epic sell keys outside, mostly only those with physical releases. So will Ashen or Hades sell steam or epic keys? The answer to that will be telling, very telling about Epic's strategy if they even have one outside of throwing cash at things.
it's gonna be the same price as on egs ... they can't do it any other wayStill no price for Ashen on Steam. If Annapurna charges the full €40 price for this 12 months old game, I'm gonna laugh out loud
so unless they universally drop the base price today - the best you can count on is a release discount or something, so ... yeah ...
Yes but Tim said that the bigger share he offers to the developers will lead to better discounts on EGS. And Tim knows better, doesn't he?
Steam has max 40% launch sale
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Well if the game is the same price as the EGS version, but also has the DLC (which costs 10€/$) included, the Steam version would be cheaper.
wouldn't count on it ... not unless they do the same thing on egs
Yeah, not counting on it either, that's why I will probably wait for a sale.
Has there been any advertising for Ashen's Steam release? I would have completely forgotten it.
it's out ... DLC not included ... not even a fucking "complete edition" package with additional discount 
20% off at least
and the definitive edition is $40
Save 20% on Ashen - Definitive Edition on Steam
That's decent enough, tbh.
and the definitive edition is $40
Save 20% on Ashen - Definitive Edition on Steam
That's decent enough, tbh.
well the package wasn't there when i posted
and it seems like they haven't fixed co-op either
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$40 for a year-old title (with some minor new content) decent?
As I said in the other thread, with how Supergiant devs are phrasing any announcement regarding the launch price on Steam, I'm somehow convinced they will increase the price on the EGS stating that the game is now bigger than it was when they increased the price the first time and launch with the new price on Steam.
solid plan ... make people wait a year and then sell it for even more than back then saying "it has more content now" ... well unless you're somehow going to force those people who bought it 12 months ago to pay the remainder of the new price - you can fuck right off
So a few days back EGS announced that devs could use they own payment method for in game purchase, that seems cool, surely Epic was doing that to help other devs.
9to5google.com
Exclusive: Epic submitting Fortnite for Android to Play Store in hopes of special billing exception
In launching on Android last year, Fortnite could not be installed by simply going to the Google Play Store. Rather, the battle royale game...
9to5google.com
So Epic wants to be on Play Store but not pay the 30%, maybe Google will help out poor Epic.
Oh
I don't think decent is that outrageous of a word shrug. I also have no idea what content is included. The game died for me a year ago.$40 for a year-old title (with some minor new content) decent?
Seeing how they handled that sale a while ago, I fully expect them to increase the price on release. I know how they'll do it. Launch the game at $30, but give you a discount to bring it down to the current price of $25.
Boycott them and be done with them.
These were the same people that tried to stealthily rise the Hades price during the first EGS sale. They are greedy assholes so screw them, they deserve Tim.
These were the same people that tried to stealthily rise the Hades price during the first EGS sale. They are greedy assholes so screw them, they deserve Tim.
Good regional pricing there. $10 for normal and $15 for definitive. For comparison, it's $40 on EGS for normal.it's out ... DLC not included ... not even a fucking "complete edition" package with additional discount
Good guy Epic make games cheaper.
In this case, I'd side with Epic. The mobile market is a joke and the tax on in-app purchases kind of boggles my mind. From a standpoint of doing what's right, while I can understand the cut based on distribution, visibility and features, the in-app purchase tax from the platform holder is just preposterously greedy in my opinion.So a few days back EGS announced that devs could use they own payment method for in game purchase, that seems cool, surely Epic was doing that to help other devs.
Exclusive: Epic submitting Fortnite for Android to Play Store in hopes of special billing exception
In launching on Android last year, Fortnite could not be installed by simply going to the Google Play Store. Rather, the battle royale game...
So Epic wants to be on Play Store but not pay the 30%, maybe Google will help out poor Epic.
Oh
We'll just let the delusions of grandeur slide with the "major PC storefront" claim.
Tax-free in-app purchases will probably lead to even more in-app purchases and less content on release. Especially in combination with subscription services.
Codes for Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory went out today. Had one in my mailbox.
Phoenix Point went to someone else, but I'm curious about this one.
Phoenix Point went to someone else, but I'm curious about this one.
Can we not call it tax? That's bullshit to get cooky points with the conservative and maga crowd.
So what then stops all games from being free with in-app DLC content unlocking meaning they can all use all the stores for (near) free should that be adopted?
There's pretty much no way to classify limits that separate Fortnite micro transactions from things like that unless they make it so only pure cosmetics get a pass (so anything with even miniscule statistics doesn't which would obviously cause an uproar from all the developers that do have statistics in their DLC and why shouldn't they also get a pass and so on) but then why should the service provider be less "greedy" than the developer/publisher that sells such things?
You might as well call the fee a "single player campaign tax" at that point, like such games aren't already hard enough to come by depending on the genre (plus, yes it's risky, but you'd have the odd developer trying to still take advantage by making their single player game f2p with advertising "support-the-developer" cosmetic DLC, or if small statistic improvements are allowed then an RPG could give you an accessory of +1 conversing which is the only way to increase that beyond 0 for actual dialogue skill checks required to move past the intro, with that statistic and equipment slot devised solely for that purpose, and so on).
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I assume it's there to stop developers from just releasing a single level for free and charging for the rest of the game through an in-app purchase.
To be fair, taxation is theft.
Yup, regional pricing is good on Steam. But I have a feeling that they might readjust it later.